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Reply #2400 - May 3rd, 2024 at 2:25pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2024 at 2:06pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 3rd, 2024 at 12:57pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2024 at 12:19pm:
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are they innocent women bobby?


yes - well - perhaps 99% of them are innocent.




nah

how many germans were innocent when the nazis were in power.

most were supporters

a few rare individuals stood up to the corrupt leadership but very few.

most palestinians support the rape and torture of teenagers going to music festivals and the gutting of babies in front of their mothers (as long as they are jewish)

stuff them and anyone who supports them



So the answer is to completely destroy Gaza and kill everyone?



as much as is neccessary to kill every hamas fighter

then (because hamas is committed to killing every jew), we will need a demilitarised zone, similar to that between north and south korea.

a large part of gaza will need to be depopulated completely,
anyone in it will be assumed to be an enemy combatant and will need to be exterminated


then with hamas gone and the palestinians hopefully having "learnt their lesson", remaining palestinians can begin to rebuild to the south of the DMZ

it will be a "teachable " moment for them

the jews arrived in this area with nothing in 1946 and built a strong pwoerful successful economy

the palestinians now have the opportunity to do the same

this will require a change in mindset

they will have to accept that this didnt happen TO them
this happened FOR them

so they could break free of the shackles of victim identification and take their place as givers not takers, as lifters not leaners.

if they want mentors, they need look no further then their neighbours to the north
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Reply #2401 - May 3rd, 2024 at 2:27pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 3rd, 2024 at 2:25pm:
because hamas is committed to killing every jew



some jews have said that all Palestinians should be killed ... do you hold them to the same standard? Roll Eyes
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Reply #2402 - May 3rd, 2024 at 3:54pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 3rd, 2024 at 2:25pm:
nah

how many germans were innocent when the nazis were in power.

most were supporters

a few rare individuals stood up to the corrupt leadership but very few.
 

Your error: the general population are always in the dark when it comes to government "defense" policies. That's why Assange has been crucified - for daring  to expose government lies.   

And even when millions aound the globe protested against Bush/Blair/Howard's illegal war in Iraq, no change to policy.   

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most palestinians support the rape and torture of teenagers going to music festivals and the gutting of babies in front of their mothers (as long as they are jewish)


Not so; most people are sickened by such events.

Whereas  the Jewish bible itself often mentions hideous behaviour : "the women shall be ripped"...(as a consequence of jewish crimes).

Hosea 13, 16:

Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.

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stuff them and anyone who supports them


Your contempt for innocent life is noted. Most of them are only aware of expulsion from their homes, during the botched UN-sponsored Partition of Palestine in 1947.   

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #2403 - May 3rd, 2024 at 3:57pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 3rd, 2024 at 2:27pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 3rd, 2024 at 2:25pm:
because hamas is committed to killing every jew



some jews have said that all Palestinians should be killed ... do you hold them to the same standard? Roll Eyes



The Jews are not in a good position.
They have 100s of millions of Middle East people who hate them even more now:
Arabs, Persians, Ottomans etc.
If they could, they'd kill every last Jew by the knife and take over Israel.
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Reply #2404 - May 3rd, 2024 at 11:05pm
 

'Human' cost?

That question was asked elsewhere... and someone replied at length about atrocities carried out by Hamas when it invaded Israel.... and ended up at the end of each description asking if these were the actions of humans or animals..... animals every time.

Israel in a bad position, Bobby?  Remember Bastogne and the 101st Airborne?  Said one trooper:- 

"So they've got us surrounded?  The poor bastards!"


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Reply #2405 - May 4th, 2024 at 12:10pm
 
The Palestinians are not interested in two states, never have been.  They want a Palestine INSTEAD OF Israel, not next to it.

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Reply #2406 - May 4th, 2024 at 12:45pm
 
Frank wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 12:10pm:
The Palestinians are not interested in two states, never have been.  They want a Palestine INSTEAD OF Israel, not next to it.



And the Israeli solution is murder all women and children?

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Reply #2407 - May 4th, 2024 at 1:19pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 12:45pm:
Frank wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 12:10pm:
The Palestinians are not interested in two states, never have been.  They want a Palestine INSTEAD OF Israel, not next to it.



And the Israeli solution is murder all women and children?


Indeed. That's what hapens without effective international law.
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Reply #2408 - May 4th, 2024 at 1:54pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 1:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 12:45pm:
Frank wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 12:10pm:
The Palestinians are not interested in two states, never have been.  They want a Palestine INSTEAD OF Israel, not next to it.



And the Israeli solution is murder all women and children?


Indeed. That's what hapens without effective international law.




Israel sent in the tanks and jets IN RESPONSE TO the 7 October pogrom, massacre, rapes and hostage taking. The biggest assault and massacre of Jews since WWII. Hamas vowed to repeat it again and again.

There was NO other reason for the Israeli response. You know it but pretend otherwise.




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Reply #2409 - May 4th, 2024 at 2:03pm
 
Frank wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 1:54pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 1:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 12:45pm:
Frank wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 12:10pm:
The Palestinians are not interested in two states, never have been.  They want a Palestine INSTEAD OF Israel, not next to it.



And the Israeli solution is murder all women and children?


Indeed. That's what hapens without effective international law.




Israel sent in the tanks and jets IN RESPONSE TO the 7 October pogrom, massacre, rapes and hostage taking. The biggest assault and massacre of Jews since WWII. Hamas vowed to repeat it again and again.
 

Indeed that's what happens without effective international law capable of adjudicating sovereignty issues arising from  "Promised Land"  delusions.

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There was NO other reason for the Israeli response. You know it but pretend otherwise.


Refu....o never mind....





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Reply #2410 - May 4th, 2024 at 2:13pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 2:03pm:
Frank wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 1:54pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 1:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 12:45pm:
Frank wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 12:10pm:
The Palestinians are not interested in two states, never have been.  They want a Palestine INSTEAD OF Israel, not next to it.



And the Israeli solution is murder all women and children?


Indeed. That's what hapens without effective international law.




Israel sent in the tanks and jets IN RESPONSE TO the 7 October pogrom, massacre, rapes and hostage taking. The biggest assault and massacre of Jews since WWII. Hamas vowed to repeat it again and again.
 

Indeed that's what happens without effective international law capable of adjudicating sovereignty issues arising from  "Promised Land"  delusions.

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There was NO other reason for the Israeli response. You know it but pretend otherwise.


Refu....o never mind....




Hamas. How much international aid were they give? Speak to that, don't switch immediately to blaming Israel for retaliating for the biggest pogrom since WWII.


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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #2411 - May 4th, 2024 at 3:09pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 1:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 12:45pm:
Frank wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 12:10pm:
The Palestinians are not interested in two states, never have been.  They want a Palestine INSTEAD OF Israel, not next to it.



And the Israeli solution is murder all women and children?


Indeed. That's what hapens without effective international law.



The UN should disband -
it watched and was unable to stop the murder of over 20,000 innocent women and children in Gaza.
The USA provided over 30,000 tons of bombs
and Israel dropped them on women and children.

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Reply #2412 - May 4th, 2024 at 3:18pm
 
Frank wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 2:13pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 2:03pm:
Frank wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 1:54pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 1:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 12:45pm:
Frank wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 12:10pm:
The Palestinians are not interested in two states, never have been.  They want a Palestine INSTEAD OF Israel, not next to it.



And the Israeli solution is murder all women and children?


Indeed. That's what hapens without effective international law.




Israel sent in the tanks and jets IN RESPONSE TO the 7 October pogrom, massacre, rapes and hostage taking. The biggest assault and massacre of Jews since WWII. Hamas vowed to repeat it again and again.
 

Indeed that's what happens without effective international law capable of adjudicating sovereignty issues arising from  "Promised Land"  delusions.

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There was NO other reason for the Israeli response. You know it but pretend otherwise.


Refu....o never mind....




Hamas. How much international aid were they give? Speak to that, don't switch immediately to blaming Israel for retaliating for the biggest pogrom since WWII.


International aid is only required by Palestinians (inc.  Hamas) because the Palestinian state was never created as planned,  meaning Palestinians in the occupied territories - without a functioning state - need external aid to survive.
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Reply #2413 - May 4th, 2024 at 3:27pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 3:09pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 1:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 12:45pm:
Frank wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 12:10pm:
The Palestinians are not interested in two states, never have been.  They want a Palestine INSTEAD OF Israel, not next to it.



And the Israeli solution is murder all women and children?


Indeed. That's what hapens without effective international law.



The UN should disband -


And be reformed: 9 permanent UNSC members without power of veto - the current 5 plus India, Germany, Japan. Indonesia - to enforce international law adjudicated by an ICJ upholding the principles of the UNUDHR.

..."to save mankind from the scourge of war"....


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it watched and was unable to stop the murder of over 20,000 innocent women and children in Gaza.
The USA provided over 30,000 tons of bombs
and Israel dropped them on women and children.


Indeed.
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Reply #2414 - May 4th, 2024 at 3:28pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 3:09pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 1:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 12:45pm:
Frank wrote on May 4th, 2024 at 12:10pm:
The Palestinians are not interested in two states, never have been.  They want a Palestine INSTEAD OF Israel, not next to it.



And the Israeli solution is murder all women and children?


Indeed. That's what hapens without effective international law.



The UN should disband -
it watched and was unable to stop the murder of over 20,000 innocent women and children in Gaza.
The USA provided over 30,000 tons of bombs
and Israel dropped them on women and children.



Frank & aquascoot maintain that those children deserved to be murdered, because a minority of Palestinians voted for Hamas 18 years ago.

Make sense to you?  Anyone?
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