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Reply #2640 - Mar 20th, 2025 at 10:25am
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 20th, 2025 at 5:31am:
Yadda,

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Who are you going to believe Bobby ?


I believe Jesus -
he said - turn the other cheek.

Would Jesus have dropped 75,000 tons of bombs on women and children?



Matthew 5   KJV

38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:

39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.

41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;





Nice comeback bobby.

Matthew 5:38
Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39  But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40  And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.
41  And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
42  Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
43  Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44  But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
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48  Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

And there is my fault bobby, expressed in verse 48.



I'm just a weak and flawed man.

And yes, my Creator will also judge me.


1 John 1:8
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10  If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #2641 - Mar 20th, 2025 at 10:40am
 
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Nice comeback bobby.


In the preaching stakes I won.

I believe Jesus -
he said - turn the other cheek.

Would Jesus have dropped 75,000 tons of bombs on women and children?
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Reply #2642 - Mar 20th, 2025 at 5:21pm
 
Two eyes for one eye.

We are dealing with pure evil here.

I  believe if was one of my children raped and murder or worse held hostage and tortured and constantly gang raped I would say 750000 tons of bombs isn’t anywhere near enough.

Times it by two and add several zeros then peace talks can start again.
Better still just nuke it and let Trump rebuild it.
It’s now really up to the Palestinian people, force Hamas to release the remaining hostages or all die together.

Non of your “ Arab brothers “will help by either taking you in or by military means . All your “ Arab brothers “ think your that scum they will not accept you!

How many of you are happy to die for Hamas ?

Because y’all will.

I’m disappointed that Israeli weren’t more contained.

I would have allowed several more months of rebuilding and repopulation before bombing it too dust again.

The only way the killing will stop is if the hostages are ALL released and all Hamas scum are dead.

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Reply #2643 - Mar 21st, 2025 at 5:42pm
 
When will Palestinians rise up and eliminate Hamas and Islamic Jihad and Hezb'allah and constitute a true voice and leadership?





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Reply #2644 - Mar 21st, 2025 at 5:52pm
 
Hell no. Do we see any Muslim nations publically condemning the Hamarsed terrorists as NOT MOSLEM?
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Reply #2645 - Mar 21st, 2025 at 9:33pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 21st, 2025 at 5:42pm:
When will Palestinians rise up and eliminate Hamas and Islamic Jihad and Hezb'allah and constitute a true voice and leadership?







A excellent question. Here is another-

Why have Arab leaders and people abandoned the Palestinian people to die alone in rubble?
There’s no martyr’s among them.
Just ordinary people left to die while their army and leaders live safe and eat well underground.
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Reply #2646 - Mar 21st, 2025 at 9:47pm
 
Daves2017 wrote on Mar 21st, 2025 at 9:33pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 21st, 2025 at 5:42pm:
When will Palestinians rise up and eliminate Hamas and Islamic Jihad and Hezb'allah and constitute a true voice and leadership?







A excellent question. Here is another-

Why have Arab leaders and people abandoned the Palestinian people to die alone in rubble?
There’s no martyr’s among them.
Just ordinary people left to die while their army and leaders live safe and eat well underground.


They say Hamas are muslim brotherhood terrorists.

Muslim brotherhood is outlawed in most Islamic countries for some reason the west hasn't followed and banned it as well


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Reply #2647 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 8:40am
 
That explains a lot ^

There is far more good Muslims than  Evil.

Hamas are pure evil and so are those that voted them into power!

I see Israeli is doing the whole Middle East  and world a wonderful favour removing the evil of Hamas.
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Reply #2648 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 9:33am
 
Daves2017 wrote on Mar 20th, 2025 at 5:21pm:
Two eyes for one eye.

We are dealing with pure evil here.

I  believe if was one of my children raped and murder or worse held hostage and tortured and constantly gang raped I would say 750000 tons of bombs isn’t anywhere near enough.

Times it by two and add several zeros then peace talks can start again.
Better still just nuke it and let Trump rebuild it.
It’s now really up to the Palestinian people, force Hamas to release the remaining hostages or all die together.

Non of your “ Arab brothers “will help by either taking you in or by military means . All your “ Arab brothers “ think your that scum they will not accept you!

How many of you are happy to die for Hamas ?

Because y’all will.

I’m disappointed that Israeli weren’t more contained.

I would have allowed several more months of rebuilding and repopulation before bombing it too dust again.

The only way the killing will stop is if the hostages are ALL released and all Hamas scum are dead.



2,184,000 Palestinians support Hamas and over 4,000,000 Palestinians approved the slaughter of Israeli's on Oct 7th.
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Reply #2649 - Mar 23rd, 2025 at 9:42am
 
Arab population of Israel - around two million.

Jewish population of Gaza - Nil.

That should tell you all something.  Actually a lot of things including that the Gazans had their own state - and they stuffed it royally.
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #2650 - Apr 21st, 2025 at 12:08am
 
Trump sending 35,000 more MK-84    2,000 pound bombs
for the kids in Gaza.





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Reply #2651 - Apr 23rd, 2025 at 8:27pm
 
More MK-84 bunker busters for Israel -

can we be sure that they won't be dropped on women and children in Gaza this time?



https://www.renegadetribune.com/with-eye-on-iran-us-sends-more-bunker-busting-bo...


With Eye On Iran, US Sends More Bunker-Busting Bombs To Israel

April 22, 2025

“Nine US transport planes carrying bunker-busting bombs and other defensive weapons landed at Nevatim Airbase near Tel Aviv, in central Israel,” the Israeli broadcasting authority KAN reported.

The munitions and interceptors would be key to Israel attacking Iran’s nuclear program then countering the predictable Iranian response.

KAN explained the massive weapons shipment  comes “in anticipation of a possible joint US-Israeli strike, should nuclear negotiations between Washington and Tehran fail.”



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Reply #2652 - Apr 23rd, 2025 at 9:27pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Mar 23rd, 2025 at 9:42am:
Arab population of Israel - around two million.

Jewish population of Gaza - Nil.

That should tell you all something.  Actually a lot of things including that the Gazans had their own state - and they stuffed it royally.



* Israel: Population 10 million, including 2 million Muslims (up from 150,000 in 1948). About 400 mosques.

* Arab world: Population 450 million, including 4,000 Jews (down from 900,000). There are functioning synagogues in Morocco and Tunisia, very few elsewhere. One has recently been opened in the UAE for foreign residents. Many other synagogues in the Arab world have been destroyed.

Having comprehensively lost the war against Israel which they launched on 7 October 2023 (as they and the various Arab states have lost every war they have launched against Israel since the 1920s), the Palestinians are finding consolation in a fantasy rhetoric, both spoken and visual, on the theme of "resistance."
This fantasy rhetoric expresses a long-standing trope of Arab political culture: that what matters in war is not victory but resistance with honour. Defeat, even repeated defeat, even defeat with catastrophic results (such as we have just seen), does not matter provided it is not accompanied by dishonour.


This attitude finds no favour with Israelis, who fight wars to win them. The difference in attitude of course reflects the very different geo-political realities faced by Arabs and Israelis. The Arabs can lose a dozen wars against Israel, without defeat having much impact on an Arab world which stretches from Morocco to Oman and has 500 million people (not counting Iran). Israelis, in one small state with 10 million people, their backs to the sea, cannot afford to lose any war, since defeat will mean (as the Arabs and Iranians make no secret of saying), their extermination. (And yet it is Israel which gets hauled before the ICC accused of genocide.)


All of this explains why our facebook and other feeds are currently flooded with AI-generated images of Palestinian eagles and lions chasing hook-nosed Jews into the sea, and of heroic masked "resistance" fighters waving their Kalashnikovs and stomping on Israeli flags. The fact that something like 20,000 of these heroic Hamas and Hezbollah "fighters" have just got themselves killed in yet another futile war against Israel and have also got an unknown but certainly large number of Palestinian and Lebanese civilians killed in the process, makes no difference. In fact, the more disastrous the defeat, the more "honour" demands that the defeat be denied, and the rhetoric of "resistance" ramped up.


And but one example is an AI fantasy image of Palestinian children standing inside a Palestine-shaped hole in the wall, proclaiming "we won't kneel." The well-documented fact that something like 16,000 captured Hamas fighters (mostly deluded teenage graduates of UNRWA schools) have in fact preferred to kneel in captivity rather than become martyrs can be ignored, indeed must be denied. And so, another generation of Palestinian children will be taught that "resistance" and martyrdom is the path of honour, while seeking a realistic settlement with Israel is too shameful to contemplate.

(Of course, no brave cultural studies student would dare write a thesis about Palestinian fantasy art at any Australian university, because that would mean being branded as a Zionist and ruining their academic prospects, not to mention risking getting beaten up by keffiyeh-wearing Hamas-groupies.)
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #2653 - Apr 25th, 2025 at 10:18pm
 

Itamar Ben-Gvir is an Israeli far-right politician and lawyer who
has served as the Minister of National Security since 2025.


Apr 25, 2025

April 24, 2025 MANHATTAN, New York

- Ben Gvir Confronted while Walking through Wall Street after leaving restaurant.
Surrounded by private security and NYPD as he walks with a smile
as he is confronted by opposition calling him a nazi and speaking to him in Hebrew.



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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #2654 - Yesterday at 7:43am
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 8:27pm:
More MK-84 bunker busters for Israel -

can we be sure that they won't be dropped on women and children in Gaza this time?



https://www.renegadetribune.com/with-eye-on-iran-us-sends-more-bunker-busting-bo...


With Eye On Iran, US Sends More Bunker-Busting Bombs To Israel

April 22, 2025

“Nine US transport planes carrying bunker-busting bombs and other defensive weapons landed at Nevatim Airbase near Tel Aviv, in central Israel,” the Israeli broadcasting authority KAN reported.

The munitions and interceptors would be key to Israel attacking Iran’s nuclear program then countering the predictable Iranian response.

KAN explained the massive weapons shipment  comes “in anticipation of a possible joint US-Israeli strike, should nuclear negotiations between Washington and Tehran fail.”



https://www.renegadetribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/a-dozen-2000-pound-jo...



By now the women and children should be well and truly out of the way along the safe corridors to food and safety that Israel created for genuine refugees - what's holding them back and in harm's way?

a. their own addiction to Muslim madness and Hamas threatening to execute 'traitors' for 'deserting'.

There are NO 'innocent bystanders' left in Hamas-controlled zones, and if they are - again - why are they not leaving right now instead of waiting for the bombs?

Propaganda is cheap - if it was your son in the IDF - who would you prefer to die?
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