Bobby. wrote on Oct 31^st, 2023 at 10:33pm:


I am still waiting for you to answer my questions from post 17

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 31^st, 2023 at 10:22pm:


You care, Mistie. You volunteered to go teach Johnny Turk a few things at the uni, no?

Do you have any advice for Baron?

https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-31-23...


13 min ago

Multiple Middle Eastern countries condemn the Israeli strike on Jabalya refugee camp

From CNN’s Kareem Khadder, Zeena Saifi, Mohammed Tawfeeq and Adam Pourahmadi

Following the Israeli strike on https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-31-23
/index.html several countries in the Middle East have spoken out against the attack.

Jordan’s Foreign Ministry condemned Israel's deadly strike in a statement.

“Jordan’s Foreign Ministry condemns in the strongest terms the Israeli aggression that targeted the Jabalya camp in the Gaza Strip this evening, holding Israel, the occupying power responsible for this dangerous development,” the statement, released on X, previously known as Twitter, said.

The Jordanian Foreign Ministry “affirmed the Kingdom’s strong rejection and condemnation of this act, which contradicts all human and moral values and the rules of international humanitarian law.”

Saudi Arabia also condemned the airstrike in northern Gaza.

Saudi Arabia "affirmed that the dangerous humanitarian conditions resulting from the continuous escalation cannot be justified at all,” according to a statement released by the country's foreign ministry.

"Sparing blood, protecting civilians, and stopping military operations are urgent priorities for which any procrastination or disruption cannot be accepted, and failure to immediately adhere to them will inevitably lead to a humanitarian catastrophe for which the Israeli occupation and the international community bear responsibility," the statement added.

Iran "condemned in the strongest terms the barbaric attack" on the Jabalya camp in the Gaza Strip, according to a statement released by Iranian foreign ministry spokesperson Nasser Kanaani.

Kanaani said "This action added another stain to the long list of war crimes committed," by Israel.

Kanaani urged "the international community, especially the United Nations and the Security Council, to immediately fulfill its international responsibility," in stopping the ongoing Israeli airstrikes on the Gaza Strip.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67258466

Summary

    Israel's military has confirmed that its jets carried out the attack on the Jabalia refugee camp in Gaza

    The IDF says the strike killed a senior Hamas commander and caused the collapse of Hamas's underground infrastructure

    The Hamas-run health ministry and a hospital director say ; pictures from the scene show craters and levelled buildings

    The camp is in northern Gaza - an area where Israel has told people to leave for their safety

    On Tuesday morning, Israel said it hit 300 targets in Gaza overnight as its air strikes and ground offensive continue

    The IDF says its ground forces were attacked by "terrorists" with anti-tank missiles and machine gun fire

    Israel has been bombing Gaza since the 7 October Hamas attacks that killed 1,400 people and saw at least 239 people kidnapped as hostages

    The Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza says more than
since Israel's retaliatory bombing began

It makes you wonder why the Gazans keep signing up for this again and again.

freediver wrote on Nov 1^st, 2023 at 8:34am:


I see. Signatories, are they?

Where did the kids sign up to be blown back to where they came from?

There's a bit of a blame game going on here, FD. Aquascoot blames the parents. Baron blames Islam. And you blame the Gazans.

Cunning. Are the kiddies allowed to sign in finger-paint?

freediver wrote on Nov 1^st, 2023 at 8:34am:



They love dying for Allah more than they love their children or each other.



Dying for Allah
In the internal Palestinian discourse, the struggle against the Zionists is not only a national one but also an Islamic struggle for Allah against those who fight and oppress the believers. Indeed, in their view, the Zionists are trying to steal land that belongs to Islam and are a colonialist extension of Western culture, which views achieving happiness in this world as the goal of life. Whoever dies in the struggle against Zionism is, then, entitled to special regard. He has taken part in defending Islamic land with its sanctities, or what is called ribat (the source of the term mourabitoun for those who defend the Temple Mount).

As for the perpetrators of attacks, who actively seek to be shahids, they win the highest status. A favored place in heaven is promised them, and their death is described as a marriage ceremony. For the Palestinians, this is a double and even multiple reasons for joy: the shahid gains a place in heaven along with recognition of the fact that he used life to the full by becoming a martyr, plus honor, status, and financial rewards for his family. All these compensate for the natural sorrow of the loss.

The Arab world has been largely silenced or prefers to sit this one out, likely because Israel has warned that it intends to de-commit from providing Gazans with infrastructure, requiring instead that the Arab states prove their love for Palestinians and take up the responsibility for their fellow Arabs themselves.

Naturally, the Arab world isn't thinking of doing a Heathcliff and Cathy with the Gazans any time soon - they're preoccupied with either asserting power and dominance over the Arab world, fighting a civil war, or just generally too busy being corrupt.

And Iran... well Iran is preoccupied with asserting power and dominance over the Arab world, crushing a potential civil war, and just generally too busy being corrupt to be concerned about unimportant Arab Sunnis, whom they hate more than Israelis.