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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58663 Here Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #45 - Oct 26^th, 2023 at 7:53pm Setanta wrote on Oct 26^th, 2023 at 7:37pm: Dnarever wrote on Oct 26^th, 2023 at 7:22pm: Is Gaza an Ethnic cleansing or Genocide Only two options? I pick box 3 Mr Dyer. I did consider all of the above - You could be right.
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Reply #47 - Oct 26^th, 2023 at 8:04pm

Wow -
I saw the French news on channel 35 this morning:
French News

8:40AM - 9:30AM

News via satellite from FT2 Paris, in French, no subtitles.
French News 20h.

The first 10 minutes was about
Hurricane Otis’ Category 5 ‘nightmare scenario’ knocks out all communications in Acapulco, Mexico.

They then had only a few minutes about Gaza -
they didn't mention any Palestinian deaths or
show any buildings being bombed or any destroyed buildings in Gaza.
I can only speculate that the news doesn't want to upset the millions of Muslims in France
in case they make terrorist attacks due to what they are seeing?
How's that for Govt. control of the media?
The French have always been like that even going back 30 to 40 years.
The media is heavily censored including newspapers and radio.

see my Reply #19.
Queen Rania’s interview talked about non stop TV coverage in Jordan
showing Palestinians dying in Gaza and destroyed buildings.

The first casualty of war is the truth.
How much has our news been censored in Australia?
Certainly the video in my opening post
has not made it on to our news.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #48 - Oct 27^th, 2023 at 12:38am

aquascoot wrote on Oct 26^th, 2023 at 6:44pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 26^th, 2023 at 6:34pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 26^th, 2023 at 2:41pm:

It's not a cycle Bobby. If Gaza shoots, Israeli shoots back. If Gaza does not shoot, Israel does not shoot. The people of Gaza could end it any time they choose. The Israelis do not have that choice. The whole cycle thing is just a BS spiel used by Muslims to trick non-Muslims into thinking that something other than Islam is the root cause.

Who are the kiddies trying to shoot exactly, FD?

Please explain?

the kiddies are in danger because the "men" in gaza hide behind them

"for sale hamas owned AK47 ", never fired, dropped just once

No no, we asked FD which kiddies are shooting back. This week, Israel killed at least 2000. FD blames Islam.

What's the matter, FD? Cat got your tongue?

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105464 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #49 - Oct 27^th, 2023 at 1:30pm What does Max Igan say? Israel is Genociding Gaza https://www.bitchute.com/video/t5tj72mLJZA7/
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105464 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #50 - Oct 27^th, 2023 at 2:31pm Pro Palestine Rally Melbourne Australia - 22.10.23
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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #51 - Oct 27^th, 2023 at 2:32pm You whinging whining Leftist Labor voters who excuse HAMAS and blame Israel, need to listen to what an ex-HAMAS member has to say about the present situation. Oh but the poor underdog needs our sympathy . . . whine whine whine. You make me puke.
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Reply #52 - Oct 27^th, 2023 at 3:06pm

Setanta wrote on Oct 26^th, 2023 at 7:37pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 26^th, 2023 at 7:22pm:

Is Gaza an Ethnic cleansing or Genocide

Only two options? I pick box 3 Mr Dyer.

I suspect that the majority here would not know of "Pick a Box" or Bob and Dolly Dyer.

The last episode - worth a quick look.

https://www.nfsa.gov.au/collection/curated/pick-box-final-episode

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Reply #53 - Oct 27^th, 2023 at 3:08pm

issuevoter wrote on Oct 27^th, 2023 at 2:32pm:

You whinging whining Leftist Labor voters who excuse HAMAS and blame Israel, need to listen to what an ex-HAMAS member has to say about the present situation. Oh but the poor underdog needs our sympathy . . . whine whine whine. You make me puke.

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excuse HAMAS and blame Israel

Nobody is excusing anyone. They both stand condemned.

Killing innocent Palestinians does not solve anything. I would think nobody believes that two wrongs make a right.

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Reply #55 - Oct 27^th, 2023 at 3:12pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 27^th, 2023 at 3:08pm:

Nobody is excusing anyone. They both stand condemned.

Killing innocent Palestinians does not solve anything. I would think nobody believes that two wrongs make a right.

That's the point.
2 wrongs don't make a right.
Both sides are killing innocent children.
It looks like Israel is killing 100s of little kids every day.

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Reply #56 - Oct 27^th, 2023 at 3:24pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 27^th, 2023 at 3:08pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 27^th, 2023 at 2:32pm:

You whinging whining Leftist Labor voters who excuse HAMAS and blame Israel, need to listen to what an ex-HAMAS member has to say about the present situation. Oh but the poor underdog needs our sympathy . . . whine whine whine. You make me puke.

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excuse HAMAS and blame Israel

Nobody is excusing anyone. They both stand condemned.

Killing innocent Palestinians does not solve anything. I would think nobody believes that two wrongs make a right.

And just how do you propose Israel goes about it. With flowers? You didn't even listen to him.

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Reply #57 - Oct 27^th, 2023 at 4:00pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 26^th, 2023 at 3:09pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 26^th, 2023 at 2:41pm:

It's not a cycle Bobby. If Gaza shoots, Israeli shoots back. If Gaza does not shoot, Israel does not shoot. The people of Gaza could end it any time they choose. The Israelis do not have that choice. The whole cycle thing is just a BS spiel used by Muslims to trick non-Muslims into thinking that something other than Islam is the root cause.

That's true but I can see the modus operandi of Hamas:

They hope to destroy Israel by using propaganda of innocent civilians - women and children
being murdered by Israeli air strikes to draw other Middle East countries into the war
to do the fighting for them.
It looks like Iran has taken the bait and has already opened a 2nd front in Lebanon.
Other countries all over the Middle East are going crazy about what they are seeing
24 hours a day on their TVs coming out of Gaza.

Congressmen in the USA are talking about destroying Iran's oil facilities -
great - just what we need after Russian oil has been cut off. Roll Eyes

Yes that is exactly what Hamas is trying to do. But you know what works better at attracting Muslim terrorists than the victimhood narrative? The success narrative. ISIS had a whiff of success about them for a period, and it attracted huge numbers of Muslims from all over the world to come and die for the case.

Either way. Israel still has to respond somehow.

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 26^th, 2023 at 3:11pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 26^th, 2023 at 2:41pm:

It's not a cycle Bobby. If Gaza shoots, Israeli shoots back. If Gaza does not shoot, Israel does not shoot. The people of Gaza could end it any time they choose. The Israelis do not have that choice. The whole cycle thing is just a BS spiel used by Muslims to trick non-Muslims into thinking that something other than Islam is the root cause.

But what is Israel doing to the arabs that we are not being told about ?? Wink

Why do you feel the need to invent a Jewish conspiracy? There is no gap that need to be filled.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #58 - Oct 27^th, 2023 at 4:20pm

freediver wrote on Oct 27^th, 2023 at 4:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 26^th, 2023 at 3:09pm:

That's true but I can see the modus operandi of Hamas:

They hope to destroy Israel by using propaganda of innocent civilians - women and children
being murdered by Israeli air strikes to draw other Middle East countries into the war
to do the fighting for them.
It looks like Iran has taken the bait and has already opened a 2nd front in Lebanon.
Other countries all over the Middle East are going crazy about what they are seeing
24 hours a day on their TVs coming out of Gaza.

Congressmen in the USA are talking about destroying Iran's oil facilities -
great - just what we need after Russian oil has been cut off. Roll Eyes

Yes that is exactly what Hamas is trying to do. But you know what works better at attracting Muslim terrorists than the victimhood narrative? The success narrative. ISIS had a whiff of success about them for a period, and it attracted huge numbers of Muslims from all over the world to come and die for the case.

Either way. Israel still has to respond somehow.

I think Bibi has been sucked into this by Hamas - he is playing their game.

100s of little Palestinian kids are being killed every day.
The whole Arab and Persian world is up in arms and
will cause Israel to be attacked by them and may even lead to WW3.

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Reply #59 - Oct 27^th, 2023 at 4:55pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 27^th, 2023 at 4:20pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 27^th, 2023 at 4:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 26^th, 2023 at 3:09pm:

That's true but I can see the modus operandi of Hamas:

They hope to destroy Israel by using propaganda of innocent civilians - women and children
being murdered by Israeli air strikes to draw other Middle East countries into the war
to do the fighting for them.
It looks like Iran has taken the bait and has already opened a 2nd front in Lebanon.
Other countries all over the Middle East are going crazy about what they are seeing
24 hours a day on their TVs coming out of Gaza.

Congressmen in the USA are talking about destroying Iran's oil facilities -
great - just what we need after Russian oil has been cut off. Roll Eyes

Yes that is exactly what Hamas is trying to do. But you know what works better at attracting Muslim terrorists than the victimhood narrative? The success narrative. ISIS had a whiff of success about them for a period, and it attracted huge numbers of Muslims from all over the world to come and die for the case.

Either way. Israel still has to respond somehow.

I think Bibi has been sucked into this by Hamas - he is playing their game.

100s of little Palestinian kids are being killed every day.
The whole Arab and Persian world is up in arms and
will cause Israel to be attacked by them and may even lead to WW3.

I don't expect the Israelis to die so we don't have to fret about WWIII. Even if everything you say is true, it has no value until you come up with a better plan.

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