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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #570 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:28pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:18pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:57pm:

Does anyone with more than half a functioning brain in this forum believe this was a refugee camp?

It was:

Jabalya refugee camp

https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/231101234912-01-israel-gaza-110...

Read my previous post and try to comprehend it bobby.

Are Palestinians living under Palestinian government for over 17 years refugees or residents?

It's bullshit propaganda to call it refugee camp.

The fake news makes many claims that aren't true. CNN claimed Israel hit that hospital in Gaza when it was a Hamas rocket.

Do you laugh when you see the thousands of children murdered by the IDF?

Or do you masturbate?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #572 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:10pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:02pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:53pm:

Deliberately targeting thousands of innocent people is a crime and a disgrace..

All Israel has to do is show these attacks were aimed at legitimate targets and it isn't a crime. Collateral damage is a consequence of war.

Israel isn't going to be prosecuted for anything with this war.

Palestine have ratified Rome statutes.
They broke ceasefire that was in place on Oct 6th.
They killed civilians at a concert
They killed civilians which include women and children in their homes.
They killed IDF who surrendered, chopped their heads off which is a war crime
They took civilian hostages another war crime.
They fire rockets from civilian areas schoold mosques etc another war crime

The antisemetic fookwits are silent on war crimes done by hamas.

I wasn't silent.
All members of Hamas should be killed - take no prisoners -
but don't kill innocent kids.

Israel says: civilians, get out of the way, we will start shooting at Hamas in 2 days.
Hamas prevents civilians from clearing out.
Israel shoots.
Hamas puts on the Pallywood show.

So look, Booby - how would YOU kill terrorist bastards hiding behind kidnapped civilian hostages and their own wives and children?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #573 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:32pm

Frank wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:10pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:02pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:53pm:

Deliberately targeting thousands of innocent people is a crime and a disgrace..

All Israel has to do is show these attacks were aimed at legitimate targets and it isn't a crime. Collateral damage is a consequence of war.

Israel isn't going to be prosecuted for anything with this war.

Palestine have ratified Rome statutes.
They broke ceasefire that was in place on Oct 6th.
They killed civilians at a concert
They killed civilians which include women and children in their homes.
They killed IDF who surrendered, chopped their heads off which is a war crime
They took civilian hostages another war crime.
They fire rockets from civilian areas schoold mosques etc another war crime

The antisemetic fookwits are silent on war crimes done by hamas.

I wasn't silent.
All members of Hamas should be killed - take no prisoners -
but don't kill innocent kids.

Israel says: civilians, get out of the way, we will start shooting at Hamas in 2 days.
Hamas prevents civilians from clearing out.
Israel shoots.
Hamas puts on the Pallywood show.

So look, Booby - how would YOU kill terrorist bastards hiding behind kidnapped civilian hostages and their own wives and children?

You like killing, do you?

Killing is the only option you see?

How many babies do you want to see killed?

I'm curious.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #574 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:34pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:18pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:57pm:

Does anyone with more than half a functioning brain in this forum believe this was a refugee camp?

It was:

Jabalya refugee camp

https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/231101234912-01-israel-gaza-110...

As the Sage Dubya asked: is our Palestinian children learning?

It's not a hard lesson: don't massacre Jews and they won't be kill you in response.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #575 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:36pm

Quote:

"Right now, I am prepared to be a suicide bomber."

"With Allah's help, I will fight for ISIS, the Islamic State."

"I am ready to stab a Jew and drive a car over them."

"We have to constantly stab them, drive over them, and shoot them."

"Stabbing and running over Jews brings dignity to the Palestinians."

Palestinian children are taught to hate.

https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1712506046135091634

It's all there on video.

This is why Egypt blockades Gaza

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #576 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:36pm

Frank wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:18pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:57pm:

Does anyone with more than half a functioning brain in this forum believe this was a refugee camp?

It was:

Jabalya refugee camp

https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/231101234912-01-israel-gaza-110...

As the Sage Dubya asked: is our Palestinian children learning?

It's not a hard lesson: don't massacre Jews and they won't be kill you in response.

The 4,000 dead little kids didn't massacre any Jews.

How many dead kids will make you happy?

Will you masturbate to every individual death, or hold a circle jerk with your conservative buddies when the final tally is revealed?

I'm curious.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #577 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:46pm

What does an Israeli spokesman say?

The interviewer was a bit soft on him. Undecided

Nov 2, 2023

Israel Defence Force spokesperson Lieutenant Colonel Jonathan Conricus has discussed the recent air strike on the northern Gaza refugee camp for a second day.

The Israeli military said that the second strike in Jabaliya was a targeted attack on the Hamas command and control complex.

“We are at war with Hamas ever since the attack on Israel on October 7 and we intend to irradicate Hamas before ending this war,” he told Sky News Australia.

“We continue to strike Hamas commanders.”

Mr Conricus said he could not confirm reports that Muhammad A’sar a Hamas leader was killed by the second strike on Jabaliya refugee camp.

“I can say we continue to hunt them wherever they are whether or not they are hiding in tunnels or safe houses or if they are in other locations.

“And we will continue to do so until all of the senior echelons of Hamas are no longer opposing a threat to Israel.”

Mr Conricus went on to say that Israel is doing whatever it can to avoid civilian casualties.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #579 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:55pm

Frank wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:10pm:

I wasn't silent.
All members of Hamas should be killed - take no prisoners -
but don't kill innocent kids.

How would YOU do that, Bobby?
Give us the broad brush sketch of how you would accomplishing what you are proposing.

Aim your gun and shoot.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #580 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:56pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:02pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:53pm:

Deliberately targeting thousands of innocent people is a crime and a disgrace..

All Israel has to do is show these attacks were aimed at legitimate targets and it isn't a crime. Collateral damage is a consequence of war.

Israel isn't going to be prosecuted for anything with this war.

Palestine have ratified Rome statutes.
They broke ceasefire that was in place on Oct 6th.
They killed civilians at a concert
They killed civilians which include women and children in their homes.
They killed IDF who surrendered, chopped their heads off which is a war crime
They took civilian hostages another war crime.
They fire rockets from civilian areas schoold mosques etc another war crime

The antisemetic fookwits are silent on war crimes done by hamas.

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All Israel has to do is show these attacks were aimed at legitimate targets

They killed 13 hamas targets and 8,800 innocent palestinians. You should be able to do the Math there is no way we are talking about legitimate targets here.

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Israel isn't going to be prosecuted for anything with this war.

No - they have got away with these types of crimes for many decades now.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #581 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:57pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:08pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:29pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:22pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 1:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 12:48pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 12:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 12:22pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:41am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:39am:

Gordon wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:55am:

Hamas is 100% for every death

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Garbage. Israel are responsible for their own actions and atrocities. There are no good guys in this.

Are you suggesting Israel has no right to defend itself from Hamas?

Israel has every right to defend themselves from Hamas -
even taking no prisoners but
they don't have a right to kill 1000s of little kids.

What if Hamas deliberately operates it's military campaign from urban areas and refugee camps?

It must be decided on a case by case basis.
If there is one Hamas member there they can't kill 100s of little kids to kill him.

How many would you be in favour of killing? I don't think Hamas are going to strap 100 children to their chest.

Bobby, how many child casualties of war would you accept in order to wipe out Hamas?

Preferably zero and I certainly
wouldn't drop bombs on a refugee camp full of kids.
They bombed the same one again and killed more kids. Shocked

Israel is doing the wrong thing - I don't think normal Israelis would approve.
They don't want to see 1000s of kids murdered in their name.

Israel would also prefer zero Bobby.

You didn't answer the question.

I did answer you -

I said "Preferably zero"

I didn't ask what you would prefer Bobby. I asked what you would accept. I am asking you face reality instead of giving us fantasies.

How many dead children would you accept to get rid of Hamas? If you cannot give a straight answer, doesn't that mean that all you complaints about Israel are worthless?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #582 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:58pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:46pm:

What does an Israeli spokesman say?

The interviewer was a bit soft on him. Undecided

Nov 2, 2023

Israel Defence Force spokesperson Lieutenant Colonel Jonathan Conricus has discussed the recent air strike on the northern Gaza refugee camp for a second day.

The Israeli military said that the second strike in Jabaliya was a targeted attack on the Hamas command and control complex.

“We are at war with Hamas ever since the attack on Israel on October 7 and we intend to irradicate Hamas before ending this war,” he told Sky News Australia.

“We continue to strike Hamas commanders.”

Mr Conricus said he could not confirm reports that Muhammad A’sar a Hamas leader was killed by the second strike on Jabaliya refugee camp.

“I can say we continue to hunt them wherever they are whether or not they are hiding in tunnels or safe houses or if they are in other locations.

“And we will continue to do so until all of the senior echelons of Hamas are no longer opposing a threat to Israel.”

Mr Conricus went on to say that Israel is doing whatever it can to avoid civilian casualties.

In other words he likely was never there and again all they targeted was civilians.

Also they hit the target again because they knew they had missed him the previous day. They targeted Innocent children twice for no result.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #583 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 10:02pm

freediver wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:08pm:

I did answer you -

I said "Preferably zero"

I didn't ask what you would prefer Bobby. I asked what you would accept. I am asking you face reality instead of giving us fantasies.

How many dead children would you accept to get rid of Hamas? If you cannot give a straight answer, doesn't that mean that all you complaints about Israel are worthless?

It would depend -
if a Hamas fighter has a baby strapped to his chest then it becomes difficult. Undecided

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #584 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 10:03pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:58pm:

In other words he likely was never there and again all they targeted was civilians.

Also they hit the target again because they knew they had missed him the previous day. They targeted Innocent children twice for no result.

Looks like a very inefficient way to kill Hamas fighters. Undecided

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