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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #585 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 10:04pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 10:02pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:08pm:

I did answer you -

I said "Preferably zero"

I didn't ask what you would prefer Bobby. I asked what you would accept. I am asking you face reality instead of giving us fantasies.

How many dead children would you accept to get rid of Hamas? If you cannot give a straight answer, doesn't that mean that all you complaints about Israel are worthless?

It would depend -
if a Hamas fighter has a baby strapped to his chest then it becomes difficult. Undecided

So, you would accept 1 dead child for every Hamas fighter killed?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #586 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 10:06pm

freediver wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 10:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 10:02pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:08pm:

I did answer you -

I said "Preferably zero"

I didn't ask what you would prefer Bobby. I asked what you would accept. I am asking you face reality instead of giving us fantasies.

How many dead children would you accept to get rid of Hamas? If you cannot give a straight answer, doesn't that mean that all you complaints about Israel are worthless?

It would depend -
if a Hamas fighter has a baby strapped to his chest then it becomes difficult. Undecided

So, you would accept 1 dead child for every Hamas fighter killed?

No - that would cause 25,000 kids killed.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #588 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 10:15pm

freediver wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 10:09pm:

Probably far more than that Bobby.

So, if you gallantly went off to the middle east to shoot Hamas fighters, and then discovered they had a child strapped to their chest, you would lay down your weapon and let them shoot you?

They don't strap kids to their chests -
that was hyperbole.

How many dead children would be acceptable to you?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #589 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 10:32pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:56pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:02pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:53pm:

Deliberately targeting thousands of innocent people is a crime and a disgrace..

All Israel has to do is show these attacks were aimed at legitimate targets and it isn't a crime. Collateral damage is a consequence of war.

Israel isn't going to be prosecuted for anything with this war.

Palestine have ratified Rome statutes.
They broke ceasefire that was in place on Oct 6th.
They killed civilians at a concert
They killed civilians which include women and children in their homes.
They killed IDF who surrendered, chopped their heads off which is a war crime
They took civilian hostages another war crime.
They fire rockets from civilian areas schoold mosques etc another war crime

The antisemetic fookwits are silent on war crimes done by hamas.

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All Israel has to do is show these attacks were aimed at legitimate targets

They killed 13 hamas targets and 8,800 innocent palestinians. You should be able to do the Math there is no way we are talking about legitimate targets here.

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Israel isn't going to be prosecuted for anything with this war.

No - they have got away with these types of crimes for many decades now.

They have killed far more than 13 hamas targets.

Israel understands the rules of engagement far better than idiots like you they get accused of war crimes everytime they respond to these terrorist attacks.

We have video footage Hamas fighters livestreamed of them doing war crimes go to telegram and look for it.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #590 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 11:39pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 31^st, 2023 at 2:47pm:

I can't get over or understand why Israel has to level the city of Gaza?

45% of it was destroyed as of a few days ago.
What possible excuse is there for leveling a whole apartment building with people in it?
See the OP - legs of kids sticking out of the rubble between layers of collapsed floors.
Did a Hamas member make a call on his 2 way radio from one of the rooms?

I could understand if say an Israeli tank and soldiers were going down a street
and a sniper was firing at them from a window in a building.
Yes - they would have the right to shoot a tank round into
that sniper position but leveling a whole building with a 500 pound laser guided bomb
when the army is 10 miles away?

Bobby - you obviously do not understand terrorism and how Hamas functions.

What Israel is currently doing has to be done in order to sort out Hamas once and for all. Unfortunately there’s no other way. Hamas bastardised are hiding behind men, women and children. Unfortunately the men, women and children they hide behind still support Hamas.

THAT is the problem.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #591 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 12:55am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 10:15pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 10:09pm:

Probably far more than that Bobby.

So, if you gallantly went off to the middle east to shoot Hamas fighters, and then discovered they had a child strapped to their chest, you would lay down your weapon and let them shoot you?

They don't strap kids to their chests -
that was hyperbole.

How many dead children would be acceptable to you?

FD?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #592 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 5:11am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:20pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:10pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:02pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:53pm:

Deliberately targeting thousands of innocent people is a crime and a disgrace..

All Israel has to do is show these attacks were aimed at legitimate targets and it isn't a crime. Collateral damage is a consequence of war.

Israel isn't going to be prosecuted for anything with this war.

Palestine have ratified Rome statutes.
They broke ceasefire that was in place on Oct 6th.
They killed civilians at a concert
They killed civilians which include women and children in their homes.
They killed IDF who surrendered, chopped their heads off which is a war crime
They took civilian hostages another war crime.
They fire rockets from civilian areas schoold mosques etc another war crime

The antisemetic fookwits are silent on war crimes done by hamas.

I wasn't silent.
All members of Hamas should be killed - take no prisoners -
but don't kill innocent kids.

It's a consequence of war.

An unnecessary consequence.

You were a consequence of sexual intercourse, but it could have been avoided.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #593 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 5:12am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:28pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:18pm:

[quote author=Baronvonrort link=1698203775/567#567 date=1698922672]

Does anyone with more than half a functioning brain in this forum believe this was a refugee camp?

It was:

Jabalya refugee camp

https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/231101234912-01-israel-gaza-110...

Read my previous post and try to comprehend it bobby.

Are Palestinians living under Palestinian government for over 17 years refugees or residents?

It's bullshit propaganda to call it refugee camp.

The fake news makes many claims that aren't true. CNN claimed Israel hit that hospital in Gaza when it was a Hamas rocket.

Do you laugh when you see the thousands of children murdered by the IDF?

Or do you masturbate?[/quote]

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #594 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 5:14am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:36pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:18pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:57pm:

Does anyone with more than half a functioning brain in this forum believe this was a refugee camp?

It was:

Jabalya refugee camp

https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/231101234912-01-israel-gaza-110...

As the Sage Dubya asked: is our Palestinian children learning?

It's not a hard lesson: don't massacre Jews and they won't be kill you in response.

The 4,000 dead little kids didn't massacre any Jews.

How many dead kids will make you happy?

Will you masturbate to every individual death, or hold a circle jerk with your conservative buddies when the final tally is revealed?

I'm curious.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #595 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 5:51am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 10:15pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 10:09pm:

Probably far more than that Bobby.

So, if you gallantly went off to the middle east to shoot Hamas fighters, and then discovered they had a child strapped to their chest, you would lay down your weapon and let them shoot you?

They don't strap kids to their chests -
that was hyperbole.

How many dead children would be acceptable to you?

You answer first Bobby.

And it is not just hyperbole. Hamas is literally running their military operation from refugee camps and high rise buildings for the same reason. This is a very real question that Israel is faced with.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #596 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 5:56am

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 5:51am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 10:15pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 10:09pm:

Probably far more than that Bobby.

So, if you gallantly went off to the middle east to shoot Hamas fighters, and then discovered they had a child strapped to their chest, you would lay down your weapon and let them shoot you?

They don't strap kids to their chests -
that was hyperbole.

How many dead children would be acceptable to you?

You answer first Bobby.

And it is not just hyperbole. Hamas is literally running their military operation from refugee camps and high rise buildings for the same reason. This is a very real question that Israel is faced with.

OK 1,000 kids.

Your turn?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #597 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 6:03am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 5:56am:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 5:51am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 10:15pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 10:09pm:

Probably far more than that Bobby.

So, if you gallantly went off to the middle east to shoot Hamas fighters, and then discovered they had a child strapped to their chest, you would lay down your weapon and let them shoot you?

They don't strap kids to their chests -
that was hyperbole.

How many dead children would be acceptable to you?

You answer first Bobby.

And it is not just hyperbole. Hamas is literally running their military operation from refugee camps and high rise buildings for the same reason. This is a very real question that Israel is faced with.

OK 1,000 kids.

Your turn?

As many as it takes to stop Hamas using children as human shields.

If 2000 Hamas soldiers strapped children to their chest and invaded Israel, shooting everyone they see, would you advise the Israelis to stand down and let them do it?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #598 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 6:19am

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 6:03am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 5:56am:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 5:51am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 10:15pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 10:09pm:

Probably far more than that Bobby.

So, if you gallantly went off to the middle east to shoot Hamas fighters, and then discovered they had a child strapped to their chest, you would lay down your weapon and let them shoot you?

They don't strap kids to their chests -
that was hyperbole.

How many dead children would be acceptable to you?

You answer first Bobby.

And it is not just hyperbole. Hamas is literally running their military operation from refugee camps and high rise buildings for the same reason. This is a very real question that Israel is faced with.

OK 1,000 kids.

Your turn?

As many as it takes to stop Hamas using children as human shields.

If 2000 Hamas soldiers strapped children to their chest and invaded Israel, shooting everyone they see, would you advise the Israelis to stand down and let them do it?

No - kill em all.

Kill all the kids.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #599 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 6:22am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 6:19am:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 6:03am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 5:56am:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 5:51am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 10:15pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 10:09pm:

Probably far more than that Bobby.

So, if you gallantly went off to the middle east to shoot Hamas fighters, and then discovered they had a child strapped to their chest, you would lay down your weapon and let them shoot you?

They don't strap kids to their chests -
that was hyperbole.

How many dead children would be acceptable to you?

You answer first Bobby.

And it is not just hyperbole. Hamas is literally running their military operation from refugee camps and high rise buildings for the same reason. This is a very real question that Israel is faced with.

OK 1,000 kids.

Your turn?

As many as it takes to stop Hamas using children as human shields.

If 2000 Hamas soldiers strapped children to their chest and invaded Israel, shooting everyone they see, would you advise the Israelis to stand down and let them do it?

No - kill em all.

Kill all the kids.

What about if all 25000 of them strapped a child to their chest and invaded. Would you still accept the casualties?

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