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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #600 - Nov 3rd, 2023 at 6:27am
 
freediver wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 6:22am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 6:19am:
freediver wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 6:03am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 5:56am:
freediver wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 5:51am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 10:15pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 10:09pm:
Probably far more than that Bobby.

So, if you gallantly went off to the middle east to shoot Hamas fighters, and then discovered they had a child strapped to their chest, you would lay down your weapon and let them shoot you?



They don't strap kids to their chests -
that was hyperbole.

How many dead children would be acceptable to you?


You answer first Bobby.

And it is not just hyperbole. Hamas is literally running their military operation from refugee camps and high rise buildings for the same reason. This is a very real question that Israel is faced with.



OK    1,000 kids.

Your turn?


As many as it takes to stop Hamas using children as human shields.

If 2000 Hamas soldiers strapped children to their chest and invaded Israel, shooting everyone they see, would you advise the Israelis to stand down and let them do it?



No - kill em all.

Kill all the kids.


What about if all 25000 of them strapped a child to their chest and invaded. Would you still accept the casualties?



Then you'd have to kill 25,000 of them.
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #601 - Nov 3rd, 2023 at 6:30am
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 6:27am:
freediver wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 6:22am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 6:19am:
freediver wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 6:03am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 5:56am:
freediver wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 5:51am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 10:15pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 10:09pm:
Probably far more than that Bobby.

So, if you gallantly went off to the middle east to shoot Hamas fighters, and then discovered they had a child strapped to their chest, you would lay down your weapon and let them shoot you?



They don't strap kids to their chests -
that was hyperbole.

How many dead children would be acceptable to you?


You answer first Bobby.

And it is not just hyperbole. Hamas is literally running their military operation from refugee camps and high rise buildings for the same reason. This is a very real question that Israel is faced with.



OK    1,000 kids.

Your turn?


As many as it takes to stop Hamas using children as human shields.

If 2000 Hamas soldiers strapped children to their chest and invaded Israel, shooting everyone they see, would you advise the Israelis to stand down and let them do it?



No - kill em all.

Kill all the kids.


What about if all 25000 of them strapped a child to their chest and invaded. Would you still accept the casualties?



Then you'd have to kill 25,000 of them.


Is there any limit to how many dead children you would accept?
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #602 - Nov 3rd, 2023 at 6:32am
 
freediver wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 6:30am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 6:27am:
Then you'd have to kill 25,000 of them.


Is there any limit to how many dead children you would accept?



There's no limit.

I've changed over to Bibi's thinking -
kill every last Palestinian kid and put it on TV for the world to see.
It will help the cause of Israel.
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #603 - Nov 3rd, 2023 at 6:37am
 
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-02/government-warns-israel-to-observe-rules-...



Prime Minister Anthony Albanese declares Palestinian lives matter too,
as government urges Israel to observe rules of war


By political reporter Nour Haydar
Posted 11h ago


Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has declared that every Palestinian and Israeli life matters while expressing concern about the climbing civilian death toll in Gaza, as the federal government sharpens its language in urging Israel to abide by international law.
Key points:

    The prime minister says Israel in its efforts to destroy Hamas must maintain the rules of war
    The foreign minister says the international community will not tolerate more innocent deaths
    The government continues to work to help dozens of Australians leave Gaza

Foreign Minister Penny Wong on Thursday added the "international community will not accept ongoing civilian deaths", saying Israel must observe the rules of war.


The government maintains Israel has a "right to defend itself", but Mr Albanese emphasised that it also has a responsibility to ensure innocent civilians are not paying the price for atrocities committed by Hamas on October 7.

"The civilian toll is quite rightly causing enormous concern around the world," he said at a conference in Melbourne on Thursday.

"Every Palestinian life matters, like every Israeli life matters.

"Every effort has to be made to ensure that innocent civilians are protected to every extent possible.

"It is very difficult because of the way that Hamas operates with the use of civilian infrastructure being mixed with what is effectively military infrastructure … but every single effort has to be made."

The number of people killed in Gaza since Israel began its bombing campaign 26 days ago has exceeded 8,700, including more than 3,600 children killed according to the Hamas-run Gaza health ministry.

Israeli said Hamas killed 1,400 people, mostly civilians, while taking more than 200 people hostage last month.

Gaza officials say at least 195 Palestinians were killed in the two Israeli attacks on the Jabalia refugee camp this week, with 120 missing under the rubble and hundred more wounded.

Israel said the two strikes killed Hamas military leaders while claiming "terror infrastructure" was built beneath civilian buildings in the area.

Mr Albanese said the images from the refugee camp have "quite rightly" caused "enormous concern" while revealing that he had this week met with Australians who had family members killed in the besieged territory.

"I met with people yesterday afternoon, who have lost family members in Gaza," he said.

"They are quite right to be traumatised and want their government to speak up for them just as the government has spoken up for the loss of Israeli lives and for the families concerned about hostages and the consequences of Hamas's atrocities."
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #604 - Nov 3rd, 2023 at 6:48am
 
https://www.9news.com.au/world/israel-hamas-conflic-updates-diplomacy-to-pause-f...


At least 9,061 Palestinians have been killed in the war,

mostly women and minors, and more than 32,000 people have been wounded, the Gaza Health Ministry said on Thursday, without providing a breakdown between civilians and fighters.

More than 3700 Palestinian children have been killed in 25 days of fighting,

and bombings have driven more than half the territory's 2.3 million people from their homes, while food, water and fuel run low.
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #605 - Nov 3rd, 2023 at 7:04am
 
Hamas could end civilian deaths overnight, by not targeting Israeli civilians and by not hiding its military behind Palestinian civilians. Of course, that would also end Hamas, or at least their military ambitions, so don't get your hopes up.

Israel has no such choice.
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #606 - Nov 3rd, 2023 at 7:20am
 
freediver wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 7:04am:
Hamas could end civilian deaths overnight, by not targeting Israeli civilians and by not hiding its military behind Palestinian civilians.


All the dead Palestinian non combatants over the last 17 yrs say others
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Re: The human cost in Gaza - Hamas doesn’t give a toss
Reply #607 - Nov 3rd, 2023 at 8:28am
 
freediver wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 7:04am:
Hamas could end civilian deaths overnight, by not targeting Israeli civilians and by not hiding its military behind Palestinian civilians. Of course, that would also end Hamas, or at least their military ambitions, so don't get your hopes up.

Israel has no such choice.


Hamas continues to hide behind its supporters who are men, women and children.

Israel and its allies know there’s only 1 option in resolving this terrorist organisation’s existence - Israel must go hard until its supporters themselves give Hamas up. Meantime Hamas doesn’t give a toss about how many die. As long as Hamas is protected.








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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #608 - Nov 3rd, 2023 at 10:12am
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 6:37am:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-02/government-warns-israel-to-observe-rules-...



Prime Minister Anthony Albanese declares Palestinian lives matter too,
as government urges Israel to observe rules of war


By political reporter Nour Haydar
Posted 11h ago


Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has declared that every Palestinian and Israeli life matters while expressing concern about the climbing civilian death toll in Gaza, as the federal government sharpens its language in urging Israel to abide by international law.
Key points:

    The prime minister says Israel in its efforts to destroy Hamas must maintain the rules of war
    The foreign minister says the international community will not tolerate more innocent deaths
    The government continues to work to help dozens of Australians leave Gaza

Foreign Minister Penny Wong on Thursday added the "international community will not accept ongoing civilian deaths", saying Israel must observe the rules of war.


The government maintains Israel has a "right to defend itself", but Mr Albanese emphasised that it also has a responsibility to ensure innocent civilians are not paying the price for atrocities committed by Hamas on October 7.

"The civilian toll is quite rightly causing enormous concern around the world," he said at a conference in Melbourne on Thursday.

"Every Palestinian life matters, like every Israeli life matters.

"Every effort has to be made to ensure that innocent civilians are protected to every extent possible.

"It is very difficult because of the way that Hamas operates with the use of civilian infrastructure being mixed with what is effectively military infrastructure … but every single effort has to be made."

The number of people killed in Gaza since Israel began its bombing campaign 26 days ago has exceeded 8,700, including more than 3,600 children killed according to the Hamas-run Gaza health ministry.

Israeli said Hamas killed 1,400 people, mostly civilians, while taking more than 200 people hostage last month.

Gaza officials say at least 195 Palestinians were killed in the two Israeli attacks on the Jabalia refugee camp this week, with 120 missing under the rubble and hundred more wounded.

Israel said the two strikes killed Hamas military leaders while claiming "terror infrastructure" was built beneath civilian buildings in the area.

Mr Albanese said the images from the refugee camp have "quite rightly" caused "enormous concern" while revealing that he had this week met with Australians who had family members killed in the besieged territory.

"I met with people yesterday afternoon, who have lost family members in Gaza," he said.

"They are quite right to be traumatised and want their government to speak up for them just as the government has spoken up for the loss of Israeli lives and for the families concerned about hostages and the consequences of Hamas's atrocities."



is albo worried about labor losing a few seats in western sydney.

pandering to the jihadists

the path of the inferior man
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Reply #609 - Nov 3rd, 2023 at 12:07pm
 
HAMAS will not and does not adhere to international law....Palestinian civilians are being used by the terrorists as human shields despite this being a violation of international human rights....HAMAS are also holding hostages and trying to use them as a bargaining chip to release more terrorists from Israeli prisons....Israel cannot negotiate with terrorists and allow them to use innocent people to maintain their terror campaign....HAMAS need to be eliminated and the Palestinian people need to be released from their reign of terror....Israel needs to show restraint where possible and minimize civilian casualties to avoid international outrage....HAMAS are the ones killing innocent people by using them as human shields and should be condemned not supported....If the Arab world really cared about the Palestinian people they would let them leave Gaza but they won't because it would expose HAMAS to the fate they deserve???

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #610 - Nov 3rd, 2023 at 12:44pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 7:20am:
freediver wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 7:04am:
Hamas could end civilian deaths overnight, by not targeting Israeli civilians and by not hiding its military behind Palestinian civilians.


All the dead Palestinian non combatants over the last 17 yrs say others


Would you like to have another go at making a sentence John?

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HAMAS need to be eliminated and the Palestinian people need to be released from their reign of terror


That's what Bobby used to say, but how do you do that if they actually support Hamas?
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #611 - Nov 3rd, 2023 at 1:53pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 5:51am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 10:15pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 10:09pm:
Probably far more than that Bobby.

So, if you gallantly went off to the middle east to shoot Hamas fighters, and then discovered they had a child strapped to their chest, you would lay down your weapon and let them shoot you?



They don't strap kids to their chests -
that was hyperbole.

How many dead children would be acceptable to you?


You answer first Bobby.


Ah.
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #612 - Nov 3rd, 2023 at 1:58pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 6:32am:
freediver wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 6:30am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 6:27am:
Then you'd have to kill 25,000 of them.


Is there any limit to how many dead children you would accept?



There's no limit.

I've changed over to Bibi's thinking -
kill every last Palestinian kid and put it on TV for the world to see.
It will help the cause of Israel.


There, you see? It's the SM's prerogative to change his mind.
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #613 - Nov 3rd, 2023 at 2:00pm
 
Karnal wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 1:58pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 6:32am:
freediver wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 6:30am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 6:27am:
Then you'd have to kill 25,000 of them.


Is there any limit to how many dead children you would accept?



There's no limit.

I've changed over to Bibi's thinking -
kill every last Palestinian kid and put it on TV for the world to see.
It will help the cause of Israel.


There, you see? It's the SM's prerogative to change his mind.


How many dead children would you accept in order to get rid of Hamas Karnal?
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #614 - Nov 3rd, 2023 at 2:02pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 12:44pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 7:20am:
freediver wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 7:04am:
Hamas could end civilian deaths overnight, by not targeting Israeli civilians and by not hiding its military behind Palestinian civilians.


All the dead Palestinian non combatants over the last 17 yrs say others


Would you like to have another go at making a sentence John?

Quote:
HAMAS need to be eliminated and the Palestinian people need to be released from their reign of terror


That's what Bobby used to say, but how do you do that if they actually support Hamas?


Selective editing whilst ignoring the context of my comment....It is obvious you hate all Muslims and would celebrate every innocent Palastinian death as deserved....Why do you misrepresent every post I make???

Quote:
HAMAS will not and does not adhere to international law....Palestinian civilians are being used by the terrorists as human shields despite this being a violation of international human rights....HAMAS are also holding hostages and trying to use them as a bargaining chip to release more terrorists from Israeli prisons....Israel cannot negotiate with terrorists and allow them to use innocent people to maintain their terror campaign....HAMAS need to be eliminated and the Palestinian people need to be released from their reign of terror....Israel needs to show restraint where possible and minimize civilian casualties to avoid international outrage....HAMAS are the ones killing innocent people by using them as human shields and should be condemned not supported....If the Arab world really cared about the Palestinian people they would let them leave Gaza but they won't because it would expose HAMAS to the fate they deserve???


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