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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #660 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 7:02pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 4:23pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 4:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 3:57pm:

I know, Bobby. You said 25,000: one baby each.

As of yesterday, the toll stands at 3760 killed since 7/10/2023.

https://www.dci-palestine.org/3_760_palestinian_children_killed_twice_as_many_in...

This gives us 21,240 kids still to go. At the current rate, Israel will have reached its objective in 146.8 days.

They should be done by the first week in April.

I know Matty.

Why not kill all the kids? -

they will only grow up to be terrorists anyway.

The kids can be saved Bobby

Many farmers when a feral horse would find its way into their herd would shoot it

This is entirely unnecessary

A feral horse which is placed with a well-behaved herd will become a well behaved horse

All horses basically share the same temperament

The problem for the children of Gaza is the training

They are surrounded by low vibration victim identifying hopeless helpless
Citizens

And the only people in their village who show drive and initiative
Are angry violent obsessed misogynistic murderous members of a death cult

If these children can be sent to Canada Sweden Australia Singapore
South Korea and raised by a family of noble conservatives
There is no doubt in my mind they will become excellent doctors engineers and pillars of society

You don't even have to move them that far
The fine Arab men of Dubai could stop partying and being awesome businessmen and devote some time to mentoring these children

What is absolutely vital is that these children are not raised under the influence of the lefty intellectual fake compassion cult

These people are disgrace
We have many of them arguing in these threads

They have the attention span of a mosquito
They have already forgotten the war in the Ukraine
And their ability to put in the hard yards and contribute something positive to these children who have plenty of potential is zero

It is a disastrous day when the lefty intellectual cult decide to go into bat for you
I would say it would indicate that your future is screwed

Oh, I know. You've switched again.

After your Stalingrad solution, you suggested moving them into tents to take their lessons from the "noble Bedouins" of the Sinai Desert. Now you want them moved in with the Arabs, Gujaratis and Philippino guest workers of Dubai.

Back to the drawing board, dear. The SM bounces out of bed with a plan, no?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #662 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 7:56pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 5:17pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 12:07pm:

HAMAS will not and does not adhere to international law....Palestinian civilians are being used by the terrorists as human shields despite this being a violation of international human rights....HAMAS are also holding hostages and trying to use them as a bargaining chip to release more terrorists from Israeli prisons....Israel cannot negotiate with terrorists and allow them to use innocent people to maintain their terror campaign....HAMAS need to be eliminated and the Palestinian people need to be released from their reign of terror....Israel needs to show restraint where possible and minimize civilian casualties to avoid international outrage....HAMAS are the ones killing innocent people by using them as human shields and should be condemned not supported....If the Arab world really cared about the Palestinian people they would let them leave Gaza but they won't because it would expose HAMAS to the fate they deserve???

Huh

Israel has been dropping thousands of leaflets telling civilians to head south for over 2 weeks.

People are telling lies claiming Israel bombs them when heading south. I have seen numerous videos of explosions on highways they aren't coming from the air they originate from side of the road. Hamas are using IED's and blaming Israel for this.

I saw videos from south gaza yesterday you wouldn't know a war is going on 15 km up the road.

Hamas have a long history of using human shield.

Phil agrees with me on something have porcine animals become aerodynamic? Grin

Here's a larger version of your meme:

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58655 Here Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #663 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 7:58pm John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 7:18pm: Quote: Oh, I know. You've switched again. He did say something about the attention span of a mosquito Are you aware of any research into the memory of mosquitos?
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #664 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 5:44pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 5:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 5:39pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 5:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 5:30pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 5:05pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 4:32pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 4:23pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 4:19pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 3:18pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 2:28pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 2:15pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 2:02pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 12:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 7:20am:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 7:04am:

Hamas could end civilian deaths overnight, by not targeting Israeli civilians and by not hiding its military behind Palestinian civilians.

All the dead Palestinian non combatants over the last 17 yrs say others

Would you like to have another go at making a sentence John?

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HAMAS need to be eliminated and the Palestinian people need to be released from their reign of terror

That's what Bobby used to say, but how do you do that if they actually support Hamas?

Selective editing whilst ignoring the context of my comment....It is obvious you hate all Muslims and would celebrate every innocent Palastinian death as deserved....Why do you misrepresent every post I make???

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HAMAS will not and does not adhere to international law....Palestinian civilians are being used by the terrorists as human shields despite this being a violation of international human rights....HAMAS are also holding hostages and trying to use them as a bargaining chip to release more terrorists from Israeli prisons....Israel cannot negotiate with terrorists and allow them to use innocent people to maintain their terror campaign....HAMAS need to be eliminated and the Palestinian people need to be released from their reign of terror....Israel needs to show restraint where possible and minimize civilian casualties to avoid international outrage....HAMAS are the ones killing innocent people by using them as human shields and should be condemned not supported....If the Arab world really cared about the Palestinian people they would let them leave Gaza but they won't because it would expose HAMAS to the fate they deserve???

That's what Bobby used to say, but how do you do that if they actually support Hamas?

Still ignoring the context of my post and selectivly editing....So you claim all Palastinians support HAMAS and should be exterminated by association....No doubt you celebrate every Muslim death as a victory for your hatred....You are no better than those you condemn for supporting the killing of innocent people!!!

Roll Eyes

They elected Hamas, and repeated polls show majority support for Hamas. So, how do you release the Palestinian people from Hamas' reign of terror if they actually support it?

Your argument appears to be there are no innocent Arabs....You really believe all Muslims are extremists don't you....HAMAS was the only option and many did not support them....You don't just confine your bigotry to terrorists you celebrate every Muslim death....There will be no other option until HAMAS is eliminated!!!

Roll Eyes

It's not an argument. It's a question. How do you release the Palestinian people from Hamas' reign of terror if they actually support it?

The solution is getting rid of HAMAS and offering an alternative which I have already stated and you ignored....Not all Palestinian people support HAMAS....Not all Palestinian people fight for HAMAS....Woman and children are given no choice....Do you believe these innocent Palestinian people are guilty by association....Do you believe there are any innocent Muslims Freediver???

Huh

They have already been offered an alternative. They chose Hamas. ...

No, they didn't.

How many more dead kids you wanna see?

Hamas was elected into office.

Not by any of the the kids being murdered by Israel, and not by most of the adults alive there today.

Moreover, when the election was held, many years ago, they only received 45% of the vote.

So, you're completely and utterly wrong.

The last election was in 2006. ...

Exactly!

So the kids being murdered slaughtered by the IDF weren't even born.

Do you think attitudes have changed in the last 17 years?

I'm curious.

You left out the rest of my post. Here it is again for you:

Are you saying most of the adults who voted then are dead?

What problem does your "solution" solve? Are you suggesting that other nations force the locals to leave?

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I'm suggesting that Israel should stop murdering children.

Israel is not murdering children. Getting hysterical is no substitute for a rational argument.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #667 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:00pm

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 5:44pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 5:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 5:39pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 5:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 5:30pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 5:05pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 4:32pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 4:23pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 4:19pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 3:18pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 2:28pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 2:15pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 2:02pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 12:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 7:20am:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 7:04am:

Hamas could end civilian deaths overnight, by not targeting Israeli civilians and by not hiding its military behind Palestinian civilians.

All the dead Palestinian non combatants over the last 17 yrs say others

Would you like to have another go at making a sentence John?

Quote:

HAMAS need to be eliminated and the Palestinian people need to be released from their reign of terror

That's what Bobby used to say, but how do you do that if they actually support Hamas?

Selective editing whilst ignoring the context of my comment....It is obvious you hate all Muslims and would celebrate every innocent Palastinian death as deserved....Why do you misrepresent every post I make???

Quote:

HAMAS will despite this being a violation of international human rights....HAMAS are also holding hostages and trying to use them as a bargaining chip to release more terrorists from Israeli prisons....Israel cannot negotiate with terrorists and allow them to use innocent people to maintain their terror campaign....HAMAS need to be eliminated and the Palestinian people need to be released from their reign of terror....Israel needs to show restraint where possible and minimize civilian casualties to avoid international outrage....HAMAS are the ones killing innocent people by using them as human shields and should be condemned not supported....If the Arab world really cared about the Palestinian people they would let them leave Gaza but they won't because it would expose HAMAS to the fate they deserve???

That's what Bobby used to say, but how do you do that if they actually support Hamas?

Still ignoring the context of my post and selectivly editing....So you claim all Palastinians support HAMAS and should be exterminated by association....No doubt you celebrate every Muslim death as a victory for your hatred....You are no better than those you condemn for supporting the killing of innocent people!!!

Roll Eyes

They elected Hamas, and repeated polls show majority support for Hamas. So, how do you release the Palestinian people from Hamas' reign of terror if they actually support it?

Your argument appears to be there are no innocent Arabs....You really believe all Muslims are extremists don't you....HAMAS was the only option and many did not support them....You don't just confine your bigotry to terrorists you celebrate every Muslim death....There will be no other option until HAMAS is eliminated!!!

Roll Eyes

It's not an argument. It's a question. How do you release the Palestinian people from Hamas' reign of terror if they actually support it?

The solution is getting rid of HAMAS and offering an alternative which I have already stated and you ignored....Not all Palestinian people support HAMAS....Not all Palestinian people fight for HAMAS....Woman and children are given no choice....Do you believe these innocent Palestinian people are guilty by association....Do you believe there are any innocent Muslims Freediver???

Huh

They have already been offered an alternative. They chose Hamas. ...

No, they didn't.

How many more dead kids you wanna see?

Hamas was elected into office.

Not by any of the the kids being murdered by Israel, and not by most of the adults alive there today.

Moreover, when the election was held, many years ago, they only received 45% of the vote.

So, you're completely and utterly wrong.

The last election was in 2006. ...

Exactly!

So the kids being murdered slaughtered by the IDF weren't even born.

Do you think attitudes have changed in the last 17 years?

I'm curious.

You left out the rest of my post. Here it is again for you:

Are you saying most of the adults who voted then are dead?

What problem does your "solution" solve? Are you suggesting that other nations force the locals to leave?

Quote:

I'm suggesting that Israel should stop murdering children.

Israel is not murdering children. Getting hysterical is no substitute for a rational argument.

Hi, FD. Care to post your poll figures?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #668 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:04pm

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:39pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:33pm:

Israel is not murdering children.

Bombs are not considered to be natural causes.

False dichotomy. Why does every criticism of Israel boil down to an idiotic lie? And why do you parrot them so eagerly?

No worries. Here's your chance to back up your case and prove your virtue.

Show us all how the majority of Palestinians support Hamas, as shown in multiple polls.

After you do that, we'll all say ah. Look how marvellous and cunning FD is. And so virtuous. FD would never tell porkies in his crusade against the Muselman. Oh no, never ever.

Over to you.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #669 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:47pm

Hamas hit Israel hard.

It is the duty of Israel to hit Hamas back a 100 times as hard. Muslims have been inflicting suffering, pain and death on Jews, Brits, Americans, Australians, French, Germans, Swedes, Spanish, Indians, each other.
You can't reason with the bastards because they want to destroy, kill and subjugate everyone.
So they must be MADE to desist.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #670 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:53pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:04pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:39pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:33pm:

Israel is not murdering children.

Bombs are not considered to be natural causes.

False dichotomy. Why does every criticism of Israel boil down to an idiotic lie? And why do you parrot them so eagerly?

No worries. Here's your chance to back up your case and prove your virtue.

Show us all how the majority of Palestinians support Hamas, as shown in multiple polls.

After you do that, we'll all say ah. Look how marvellous and cunning FD is. And so virtuous. FD would never tell porkies in his crusade against the Muselman. Oh no, never ever.

Over to you.

WTF are you on about?

The majority of Palestinians DO support Hamas.

The rest support Hamas’ opposition (which is just as shocking)!

Palestinians don’t have internal political systems. They have internal political chaos.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #671 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:55pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:04pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:39pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:33pm:

Israel is not murdering children.

Bombs are not considered to be natural causes.

False dichotomy. Why does every criticism of Israel boil down to an idiotic lie? And why do you parrot them so eagerly?

No worries. Here's your chance to back up your case and prove your virtue.

Show us all how the majority of Palestinians support Hamas, as shown in multiple polls.

After you do that, we'll all say ah. Look how marvellous and cunning FD is. And so virtuous. FD would never tell porkies in his crusade against the Muselman. Oh no, never ever.

Over to you.

Majority of Palestinians - if Hamas isn't their Voice, why do they tolerate them? This is not the first time the bastards caused death and destruction.

No. The Palestinians and the Muslims generally ARE Hamas. There are hundreds of millions of the buggers. If they really thought that a few thousand Hamas bozos didn't speak and act for them, they could have made that clear in the last 15 or so years. They haven't. They are all Hamas. They are all Hamas here and in every Western country.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #672 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 10:35pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:53pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:04pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:39pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:33pm:

Israel is not murdering children.

Bombs are not considered to be natural causes.

False dichotomy. Why does every criticism of Israel boil down to an idiotic lie? And why do you parrot them so eagerly?

No worries. Here's your chance to back up your case and prove your virtue.

Show us all how the majority of Palestinians support Hamas, as shown in multiple polls.

After you do that, we'll all say ah. Look how marvellous and cunning FD is. And so virtuous. FD would never tell porkies in his crusade against the Muselman. Oh no, never ever.

Over to you.

WTF are you on about?

What? Why, dear, this:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 3:18pm:

They elected Hamas, and repeated polls show majority support for Hamas. So, how do you release the Palestinian people from Hamas' reign of terror if they actually support it?

FD is citing Palestinian political polls. I'd like to see them.

I don't think that's too much to ask, do you?

All the polls I've seen show the exact opposite. Who knows? Maybe they're mistaken.

I'll post them after FD shows us his.

You?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #673 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 10:49pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 10:35pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:53pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:04pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:39pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:33pm:

Israel is not murdering children.

Bombs are not considered to be natural causes.

False dichotomy. Why does every criticism of Israel boil down to an idiotic lie? And why do you parrot them so eagerly?

No worries. Here's your chance to back up your case and prove your virtue.

Show us all how the majority of Palestinians support Hamas, as shown in multiple polls.

After you do that, we'll all say ah. Look how marvellous and cunning FD is. And so virtuous. FD would never tell porkies in his crusade against the Muselman. Oh no, never ever.

Over to you.

WTF are you on about?

What? Why, dear, this:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 3:18pm:

They elected Hamas, and repeated polls show majority support for Hamas. So, how do you release the Palestinian people from Hamas' reign of terror if they actually support it?

FD is citing Palestinian political polls. I'd like to see them.

I don't think that's too much to ask, do you?

All the polls I've seen show the exact opposite. Who knows? Maybe they're mistaken.

I'll post them after FD shows us his.

You?

FD is right!

And my previous post is too!

Whatever poll you have there is not going to change what everyone knows regarding the Palestinians. These people are nothing like us Aussies... in fact they’re pretty much like the Japs were in WW2 - total unhinged fanatics who were prepared to fight/kill/die until the bitter end.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #674 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 10:52pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:53pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:04pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:39pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:33pm:

Israel is not murdering children.

Bombs are not considered to be natural causes.

False dichotomy. Why does every criticism of Israel boil down to an idiotic lie? And why do you parrot them so eagerly?

No worries. Here's your chance to back up your case and prove your virtue.

Show us all how the majority of Palestinians support Hamas, as shown in multiple polls.

After you do that, we'll all say ah. Look how marvellous and cunning FD is. And so virtuous. FD would never tell porkies in his crusade against the Muselman. Oh no, never ever.

Over to you.

WTF are you on about?

The majority of Palestinians DO support Hamas.

The rest support Hamas’ opposition (which is just as shocking)!

Palestinians don’t have internal political systems. They have internal political chaos.

👆 Incidentally...this was my previous post. In its entirety.

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