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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #705 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 9:52am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:22am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:18am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:16am:

Would you accept walking around all day with a loaded gun pointed at your head?

The fact that we still have nuclear weapons pointed at all of us
proves that our world leaders have failed us - miserably.

Would you prefer that our outgroup enemies have all the weapons and we have none, or not enough, to match the threat?

Our leaders needed to find a solution.
Reagan was on the right path - trust but verify -
get rid of all nuclear weapons.
The problem has been - no trust.

Now that tensions are so high in the Middle East and Ukraine, nuclear war is more likely.

nope

the people of palesrine need to find a solution.

being an apathetic victim (the role asigned to them by the left) prevents them from doing so.
victim status removes their power and energy

remove the victim status.
tell them to go to school and quit throwing rocks
grind it out and build something
spend their aid money on libraries and universities instead of rockets

solving problems is what humans were meant to do

being an infantile victim is what humans were NOT meant to do

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #706 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 11:58am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 4:48am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:55pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:04pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:39pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:33pm:

Israel is not murdering children.

Bombs are not considered to be natural causes.

False dichotomy. Why does every criticism of Israel boil down to an idiotic lie? And why do you parrot them so eagerly?

No worries. Here's your chance to back up your case and prove your virtue.

Show us all how the majority of Palestinians support Hamas, as shown in multiple polls.

After you do that, we'll all say ah. Look how marvellous and cunning FD is. And so virtuous. FD would never tell porkies in his crusade against the Muselman. Oh no, never ever.

Over to you.

Looks like FD never got back to you.

Oh dear Roll Eyes

If the majority do not support hamas then the Israelis have even more justification in rooting out these interlopers
If the majority do not support hamas they should rise up and join the brave idf fighters
And overthrow their oppressors

Hopefully we will see scenes of Palestinians throwing bunches of flowers over Israeli tanks
F indeed Fisk is correct about Israeli sentiment towards the fundamentalists

No, dear, FD's saying the overwealming majority does support Hamas, and this justifies killing them too.

We'd just like to see his multiple polls numbers, that's all. If they back FD's case, we'd be more likely to agree with him.

If they don't, it's evidence of fake news and we'd be less likely, do you see? We'd also be reluctant to take FD's posts seriously in future as he's okay with telling porkies.

You?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #707 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:03pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 11:58am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 4:48am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:55pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:04pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:39pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:33pm:

Israel is not murdering children.

Bombs are not considered to be natural causes.

False dichotomy. Why does every criticism of Israel boil down to an idiotic lie? And why do you parrot them so eagerly?

No worries. Here's your chance to back up your case and prove your virtue.

Show us all how the majority of Palestinians support Hamas, as shown in multiple polls.

After you do that, we'll all say ah. Look how marvellous and cunning FD is. And so virtuous. FD would never tell porkies in his crusade against the Muselman. Oh no, never ever.

Over to you.

Looks like FD never got back to you.

Oh dear Roll Eyes

If the majority do not support hamas then the Israelis have even more justification in rooting out these interlopers
If the majority do not support hamas they should rise up and join the brave idf fighters
And overthrow their oppressors

Hopefully we will see scenes of Palestinians throwing bunches of flowers over Israeli tanks
F indeed Fisk is correct about Israeli sentiment towards the fundamentalists

No, dear, FD's saying the overwealming majority does support Hamas, and this justifies killing them too.

We'd just like to see his multiple polls numbers, that's all. If they back FD's case, we'd be more likely to agree with him.

If they don't, it's evidence of fake news and we'd be less likely, do you see? We'd also be reluctant to take FD's posts seriously in future as he's okay with telling porkies.

You?

Here we go again. More invented rubbish.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #708 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:06pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:43am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:34am:

freediver wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:31am:

Most people who live in liberal democracies do not expect to go through a war. But it is still sensible to maintain your ability to defend yourself.

My belief is that arms races we see are a shocking waste of resources.
Why can't the world leaders meet and all decide to reduce their arms spending every year
until no country has the military power to destroy another country?

I agree. Preparation for war comes at a gargantuan cost, which only reinforces that the human instinct for war not only permits that expenditure, it also values that preparation over any other single expenditure.

It’s more a male instinct.

Sorry but it is.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 137869 Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #709 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:08pm Israel is bombing ambulances now. These war criminals need to be stopped.
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #710 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:12pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:08pm: Israel is bombing ambulances now. These war criminals need to be stopped. I know why you never bothered with providing a link to your ridiculous post. A link would have revealed that Israel targeted that 1 ambulance because it was being used by Hamas operatives. Next!
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Jasin Gold Member Online Posts: 48747 Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #711 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:12pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:08pm: Israel is bombing ambulances now. These war criminals need to be stopped. Yeah - you go do that virtual signaller extrodinaire Funny how Musicians suddenly become Military experts too. Send in Sean Penn everyone!
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #712 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:14pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:08pm:

Israel is bombing ambulances now.

These war criminals need to be stopped.

I know why you never bothered with providing a link to your ridiculous post.

A link would have revealed that Israel targeted that 1 ambulance because it was being used by Hamas operatives.

Next!

No proof whatsoever that the ambulance was being used by Hamas.

That's just their convenient excuse.

It's another war crime that you and others here condone.

First you support the murder of children, and now you support the targeting of medical transport vehicles filled with injured civilians.

Sad.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #713 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:20pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:06pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:43am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:34am:

freediver wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:31am:

Most people who live in liberal democracies do not expect to go through a war. But it is still sensible to maintain your ability to defend yourself.

My belief is that arms races we see are a shocking waste of resources.
Why can't the world leaders meet and all decide to reduce their arms spending every year
until no country has the military power to destroy another country?

I agree. Preparation for war comes at a gargantuan cost, which only reinforces that the human instinct for war not only permits that expenditure, it also values that preparation over any other single expenditure.

It’s more a male instinct.

Sorry but it is.

Yes. That's true, even with other primates.

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Fuzzball Gold Member Offline Posts: 6381 Australia Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #714 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:30pm Keep up the good work.
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #715 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:14pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:08pm:

Israel is bombing ambulances now.

These war criminals need to be stopped.

I know why you never bothered with providing a link to your ridiculous post.

A link would have revealed that Israel targeted that 1 ambulance because it was being used by Hamas operatives.

Next!

No proof whatsoever that the ambulance was being used by Hamas.

That's just their convenient excuse.

It's another war crime that you and others here condone.

First you support the murder of children, and now you support the targeting of medical transport vehicles filled with injured civilians.

Sad.

Proof as in Googled “proof”?

The rest of your ridiculous post is abhorrently untrue also. Do you get a kick out of falsely accusing others all the time Greg?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #716 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:34pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:08pm:

Israel is bombing ambulances now.

These war criminals need to be stopped.

I know why you never bothered with providing a link to your ridiculous post.

A link would have revealed that Israel targeted that 1 ambulance because it was being used by Hamas operatives.

Next!

No no, dear, that was FD. He said multiple Palestinian polls show overwhelming support for Hamas. We said that's strange, the polls we've seen show the opposite. Can you show your poll numbers?

FD went all shy and ran off.

Now I don't know about you, but if I was caught posting lies to defend the killing of children, I'd have a word or two to say.

Sorry, I'd jump in, I meant to say this. Or, oh you asked for polls? I thought you said Lols. Here you go, dear. Silly old moi. Polls!

https://thehill.com/opinion/4273883-mellman-do-palestinians-support-hamas-polls-...

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #717 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:38pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:20pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:06pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:43am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:34am:

freediver wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:31am:

Most people who live in liberal democracies do not expect to go through a war. But it is still sensible to maintain your ability to defend yourself.

My belief is that arms races we see are a shocking waste of resources.
Why can't the world leaders meet and all decide to reduce their arms spending every year
until no country has the military power to destroy another country?

I agree. Preparation for war comes at a gargantuan cost, which only reinforces that the human instinct for war not only permits that expenditure, it also values that preparation over any other single expenditure.

It’s more a male instinct.

Sorry but it is.

Yes. That's true, even with other primates.

Well I wasn’t expecting that reply.

For the record I was merely being honest. Wars/Weaponry etc 👉 a male thing. 🥺😩😔

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #718 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:42pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:38pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:20pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:06pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:43am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:34am:

freediver wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:31am:

Most people who live in liberal democracies do not expect to go through a war. But it is still sensible to maintain your ability to defend yourself.

My belief is that arms races we see are a shocking waste of resources.
Why can't the world leaders meet and all decide to reduce their arms spending every year
until no country has the military power to destroy another country?

I agree. Preparation for war comes at a gargantuan cost, which only reinforces that the human instinct for war not only permits that expenditure, it also values that preparation over any other single expenditure.

It’s more a male instinct.

Sorry but it is.

Yes. That's true, even with other primates.

Well I wasn’t expecting that reply.

For the record I was merely being honest. Wars/Weaponry etc 👉 a male thing. 🥺😩😔

Well... it's true.

Few women are known to history as warriors or warrior-queens. Off the top of my head, there's Budica, Joan of Arc, maybe Elizabeth I, the Empress Dowager Cixi...

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #719 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:59pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:43am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:34am:

freediver wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:31am:

Most people who live in liberal democracies do not expect to go through a war. But it is still sensible to maintain your ability to defend yourself.

My belief is that arms races we see are a shocking waste of resources.
Why can't the world leaders meet and all decide to reduce their arms spending every year
until no country has the military power to destroy another country?

I agree. Preparation for war comes at a gargantuan cost, which only reinforces that the human instinct for war not only permits that expenditure, it also values that preparation over any other single expenditure.

Thanks - someone agrees with me.

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