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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #720 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 1:04pm

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/03/middleeast/casualties-gazas-shifa-hospital-id...

CNN —

Israel has claimed responsibility for an attack on an ambulance

outside Gaza City’s Al-Shifa Hospital, the largest medical facility in the enclave, which witnesses say killed and wounded dozens of people.

At least 15 people were killed and 50 others wounded,

the Hamas-run health authorities said Friday. Footage from the scene showed at least a dozen bloodied casualties strewn across the ground near an ambulance. There appears to be some shrapnel damage to at least one of the cars on the scene.

Israel said it had targeted the ambulance because it was being used by Hamas, according to a statement from the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). “An IDF aircraft struck an ambulance that was identified by forces as being used by a Hamas terrorist cell in close proximity to their position in the battle zone,” it wrote.

“A number of Hamas terrorist operatives were killed in the strike… We have information which demonstrates that Hamas’ method of operation is to transfer terror operatives and weapons in ambulances,” the statement said.

A spokesperson for the Palestinian Ministry of Health in Gaza, who was at Al-Shifa Hospital, said that Israel was responsible for the attack.

The Palestine Red Crescent Society (PRCS) said one of its ambulances was in the convoy but that none of its team members were injured in the strike.

The ambulance was damaged when a shell fell near it, the PCRS said. “Upon arrival at Al-Shifa hospital’s gate, the gate was targeted again,” PRCS said, adding that a separate Ministry of Health ambulance was then directly hit and dozens of civilians in the area were killed and injured.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #721 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 1:35pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:14pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:08pm:

Israel is bombing ambulances now.

These war criminals need to be stopped.

I know why you never bothered with providing a link to your ridiculous post.

A link would have revealed that Israel targeted that 1 ambulance because it was being used by Hamas operatives.

Next!

No proof whatsoever that the ambulance was being used by Hamas.

That's just their convenient excuse.

It's another war crime that you and others here condone.

First you support the murder of children, and now you support the targeting of medical transport vehicles filled with injured civilians.

Sad.

Proof as in Googled “proof”?

The rest of your ridiculous post is abhorrently untrue also. Do you get a kick out of falsely accusing others all the time Greg?

He's just trolling with his need to virtual signal himself to compensate for all of his homo-erotic dirty posts that he makes. As if he convinces us all that he's an angel. Roll Eyes

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #722 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 1:45pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:14pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:08pm:

Israel is bombing ambulances now.

These war criminals need to be stopped.

I know why you never bothered with providing a link to your ridiculous post.

A link would have revealed that Israel targeted that 1 ambulance because it was being used by Hamas operatives.

Next!

No proof whatsoever that the ambulance was being used by Hamas.

That's just their convenient excuse.

It's another war crime that you and others here condone.

First you support the murder of children, and now you support the targeting of medical transport vehicles filled with injured civilians.

Sad.

With you, worm, the truth is always the exact opposite of what you say. It's like a law of nature.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #723 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:14pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:08pm:

Israel is bombing ambulances now.

These war criminals need to be stopped.

I know why you never bothered with providing a link to your ridiculous post.

A link would have revealed that Israel targeted that 1 ambulance because it was being used by Hamas operatives.

Next!

No proof whatsoever that the ambulance was being used by Hamas.

That's just their convenient excuse.

It's another war crime that you and others here condone.

First you support the murder of children, and now you support the targeting of medical transport vehicles filled with injured civilians.

Sad.

Now Greggy wants proof of the things other people say.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137862 Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #724 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:19pm Independent witnesses are saying the ambulance was full of sick/injured people, not Hamas terrorists. Another war crime perpetrated by the IDF. Deah oh dear
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 105432 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #725 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:24pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:19pm: Independent witnesses are saying the ambulance was full of sick/injured people, not Hamas terrorists. Another war crime perpetrated by the IDF. Deah oh dear Hi Greggy, will there be a Nuremberg 2 trial with the gallows waiting outside the courthouse?
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #726 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:25pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:19pm:

Independent witnesses are saying the ambulance was full of sick/injured people, not Hamas terrorists.

Another war crime perpetrated by the IDF.

Deah oh dear Roll Eyes

Hi Greggy,
will there be a Nuremberg 2 trial with the gallows waiting outside the courthouse?

Nope.

Israel will get away with murder. Literally.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #727 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:46pm

freediver wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:14pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:08pm:

Israel is bombing ambulances now.

These war criminals need to be stopped.

I know why you never bothered with providing a link to your ridiculous post.

A link would have revealed that Israel targeted that 1 ambulance because it was being used by Hamas operatives.

Next!

No proof whatsoever that the ambulance was being used by Hamas.

That's just their convenient excuse.

It's another war crime that you and others here condone.

First you support the murder of children, and now you support the targeting of medical transport vehicles filled with injured civilians.

Sad.

Now Greggy wants proof of the things other people say.

Uncanny, innit.

freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 3:18pm:

They elected Hamas, and repeated polls show majority support for Hamas. So, how do you release the Palestinian people from Hamas' reign of terror if they actually support it?

Sometimes a question is just a question.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #728 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:48pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:59pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:43am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:34am:

freediver wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:31am:

Most people who live in liberal democracies do not expect to go through a war. But it is still sensible to maintain your ability to defend yourself.

My belief is that arms races we see are a shocking waste of resources.
Why can't the world leaders meet and all decide to reduce their arms spending every year
until no country has the military power to destroy another country?

I agree. Preparation for war comes at a gargantuan cost, which only reinforces that the human instinct for war not only permits that expenditure, it also values that preparation over any other single expenditure.

Thanks - someone agrees with me.

We will make America strong again, Bobby.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #729 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 3:00pm

An interesting article:

https://www.vtforeignpolicy.com/2023/11/the-genocide-plotted-by-zionists-leaked-...

The GENOCIDE Plotted by Zionists.

Leaked Israeli Plan to Ethnically cleanse Gaza

The plan advocates the forced transfer of the population of the Gaza Strip to Sinai permanently, and calls for the international community to be leveraged to assist the move.

By Fabio G. C. Carisio -

November 3, 2023

Israeli culture magazine Mekomit published on 28 October a leaked document issued by Israel’s Ministry of Intelligence recommending the occupation of Gaza and total transfer of its 2.3 million inhabitants to Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula.

The document, issued on 13 October, identifies a plan to transfer all residents of the Gaza Strip to North Sinai as the preferred option among three alternatives regarding the future of the Palestinians in Gaza at the end of the current war between Israel and the Hamas-led Palestinian resistance.

The document recommends that Israel evacuate the Gazan population to Sinai during the war, establish tent cities and new cities in northern Sinai to accommodate the deported population, and then create a closed security zone stretching several kilometers inside Egypt. The deported Palestinians would not be allowed to return to any areas near the Israeli border.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #730 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 3:01pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:59pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:43am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:34am:

freediver wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:31am:

Most people who live in liberal democracies do not expect to go through a war. But it is still sensible to maintain your ability to defend yourself.

My belief is that arms races we see are a shocking waste of resources.
Why can't the world leaders meet and all decide to reduce their arms spending every year
until no country has the military power to destroy another country?

I agree. Preparation for war comes at a gargantuan cost, which only reinforces that the human instinct for war not only permits that expenditure, it also values that preparation over any other single expenditure.

Thanks - someone agrees with me.

We will make America strong again, Bobby.

It would never have happened if Trump was the leader of the free world.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #731 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 3:30pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 3:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:59pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:43am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:34am:

freediver wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:31am:

Most people who live in liberal democracies do not expect to go through a war. But it is still sensible to maintain your ability to defend yourself.

My belief is that arms races we see are a shocking waste of resources.
Why can't the world leaders meet and all decide to reduce their arms spending every year
until no country has the military power to destroy another country?

I agree. Preparation for war comes at a gargantuan cost, which only reinforces that the human instinct for war not only permits that expenditure, it also values that preparation over any other single expenditure.

Thanks - someone agrees with me.

We will make America strong again, Bobby.

It would never have happened if Trump was the leader of the free world.

Why not, Bobby?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #732 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 4:46pm

freediver wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:40am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:33am:

My belief is that arms races we see are a shocking waste of resources.
Why can't the world leaders meet and all decide to reduce their arms spending every year
until no country has the military power to destroy another country?

There are far simpler things they cannot agree on Bobby. What makes this more difficult is that as soon you you do, it increases the incentive to make war, because there are easy pickings to be had.

It worked to a certain extent with START treaties:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/START_I

Quote:

START negotiated the largest and most complex arms control treaty in history, and its final implementation in late 2001 resulted in the removal of about 80% of all strategic nuclear weapons then in existence. Proposed by US President Ronald Reagan, it was renamed START I after negotiations began on START II.

It could also work for conventional arms.

I reckon the military industrial complex doesn't want it -
they would lose money and they have a lot of political power.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #733 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 4:50pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 3:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 3:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:59pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:43am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:34am:

freediver wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:31am:

Most people who live in liberal democracies do not expect to go through a war. But it is still sensible to maintain your ability to defend yourself.

My belief is that arms races we see are a shocking waste of resources.
Why can't the world leaders meet and all decide to reduce their arms spending every year
until no country has the military power to destroy another country?

I agree. Preparation for war comes at a gargantuan cost, which only reinforces that the human instinct for war not only permits that expenditure, it also values that preparation over any other single expenditure.

Thanks - someone agrees with me.

We will make America strong again, Bobby.

It would never have happened if Trump was the leader of the free world.

Why not, Bobby?

Bobby?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #734 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 4:59pm

freediver wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:14pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:08pm:

Israel is bombing ambulances now.

These war criminals need to be stopped.

I know why you never bothered with providing a link to your ridiculous post.

A link would have revealed that Israel targeted that 1 ambulance because it was being used by Hamas operatives.

Next!

No proof whatsoever that the ambulance was being used by Hamas.

That's just their convenient excuse.

It's another war crime that you and others here condone.

First you support the murder of children, and now you support the targeting of medical transport vehicles filled with injured civilians.

Sad.

Now Greggy wants proof of the things other people say.

Quote:

Focus on what the head of the Palestinian Authority said before: 'The #Hamas leaders – and I say this for the first time – fled #Gaza to the Sinai in ambulances, leaving their people behind.' Did he say that Hamas terrorists used ambulances to escape? Did they attempt this yesterday, today, or are they planning it for tomorrow?

https://twitter.com/amjadt25/status/1720582816742637767

Quds is Hamas run account

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This video shows the inside of one of the ambulances the moment it was targeted in front of Al Shifa Hospital.

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1720577635476975942

Damage is consistent with hitting a donkey no bullet hole windows intact a missile would have toasted it.

Did a donkey target it? The leftists lap up all the bullshit from hamas hook line and sinker.
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