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Reply #840 - Nov 6^th, 2023 at 7:18pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 6:55pm:

https://michaelwest.com.au/australian-arms-exports-to-israel-data-sought-in-cour...

Australian arms exports to Israel data sought in court

November 6, 2023 06:00 | News

Australia has approved 322 defence exports to Israel over the past six years, according to figures revealed during a Senate hearing last month.

Pressed on whether Australian weapons were being used against civilians in Gaza, Defence Ministry Deputy Secretary Hugh Jeffrey told the hearing such exports weren’t lethal in nature and included items such as radios, body armour, software, vehicle parts and sporting equipment.

The ministry maintains that all defence exports including the permits that Australia has approved to Israel have been assessed against stringent and robust export guidelines and international obligations.

But the groups contend, Australia may not be making decisions in accordance with domestic law and may be breaching international humanitarian law such as the Geneva Conventions.

“We are seeing the makings of a genocide unfold in front of our eyes,” Al Mezan Centre director Issam Younis said of the events in Gaza.

“If Australia is selling Israel the means to commit that genocide, it would not only be an unspeakable horror committed against the Palestinian people, it would breach Australia’s obligations under international law and its own rules around arms exports.”

Would you rather we sold ammo to Hamas?

Booby, stop being a complete ****ing boob. (You wont).

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #841 - Nov 6^th, 2023 at 7:19pm

It's going Nukla.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/sending-message-us-announces-deployment-of-nuclear...

Sending message, US announces deployment of nuclear-capable submarine to Mideast

According to CNN, the US Navy has four Ohio-class guided missile submarines,
which have been converted to carry 154 Tomahawk cruise missiles.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #842 - Nov 6^th, 2023 at 7:24pm

Frank wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 7:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 6:55pm:

https://michaelwest.com.au/australian-arms-exports-to-israel-data-sought-in-cour...

Australian arms exports to Israel data sought in court

November 6, 2023 06:00 | News

Australia has approved 322 defence exports to Israel over the past six years, according to figures revealed during a Senate hearing last month.

Pressed on whether Australian weapons were being used against civilians in Gaza, Defence Ministry Deputy Secretary Hugh Jeffrey told the hearing such exports weren’t lethal in nature and included items such as radios, body armour, software, vehicle parts and sporting equipment.

The ministry maintains that all defence exports including the permits that Australia has approved to Israel have been assessed against stringent and robust export guidelines and international obligations.

But the groups contend, Australia may not be making decisions in accordance with domestic law and may be breaching international humanitarian law such as the Geneva Conventions.

“We are seeing the makings of a genocide unfold in front of our eyes,” Al Mezan Centre director Issam Younis said of the events in Gaza.

“If Australia is selling Israel the means to commit that genocide, it would not only be an unspeakable horror committed against the Palestinian people, it would breach Australia’s obligations under international law and its own rules around arms exports.”

Would you rather we sold ammo to Hamas?

How about selling to nobody?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #843 - Nov 6^th, 2023 at 7:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 7:24pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 7:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 6:55pm:

https://michaelwest.com.au/australian-arms-exports-to-israel-data-sought-in-cour...

Australian arms exports to Israel data sought in court

November 6, 2023 06:00 | News

Australia has approved 322 defence exports to Israel over the past six years, according to figures revealed during a Senate hearing last month.

Pressed on whether Australian weapons were being used against civilians in Gaza, Defence Ministry Deputy Secretary Hugh Jeffrey told the hearing such exports weren’t lethal in nature and included items such as radios, body armour, software, vehicle parts and sporting equipment.

The ministry maintains that all defence exports including the permits that Australia has approved to Israel have been assessed against stringent and robust export guidelines and international obligations.

But the groups contend, Australia may not be making decisions in accordance with domestic law and may be breaching international humanitarian law such as the Geneva Conventions.

“We are seeing the makings of a genocide unfold in front of our eyes,” Al Mezan Centre director Issam Younis said of the events in Gaza.

“If Australia is selling Israel the means to commit that genocide, it would not only be an unspeakable horror committed against the Palestinian people, it would breach Australia’s obligations under international law and its own rules around arms exports.”

Would you rather we sold ammo to Hamas?

How about selling to nobody?

And buy from nobody?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #844 - Nov 6^th, 2023 at 7:48pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 7:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 7:24pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 7:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 6:55pm:

https://michaelwest.com.au/australian-arms-exports-to-israel-data-sought-in-cour...

Australian arms exports to Israel data sought in court

November 6, 2023 06:00 | News

Australia has approved 322 defence exports to Israel over the past six years, according to figures revealed during a Senate hearing last month.

Pressed on whether Australian weapons were being used against civilians in Gaza, Defence Ministry Deputy Secretary Hugh Jeffrey told the hearing such exports weren’t lethal in nature and included items such as radios, body armour, software, vehicle parts and sporting equipment.

The ministry maintains that all defence exports including the permits that Australia has approved to Israel have been assessed against stringent and robust export guidelines and international obligations.

But the groups contend, Australia may not be making decisions in accordance with domestic law and may be breaching international humanitarian law such as the Geneva Conventions.

“We are seeing the makings of a genocide unfold in front of our eyes,” Al Mezan Centre director Issam Younis said of the events in Gaza.

“If Australia is selling Israel the means to commit that genocide, it would not only be an unspeakable horror committed against the Palestinian people, it would breach Australia’s obligations under international law and its own rules around arms exports.”

Would you rather we sold ammo to Hamas?

How about selling to nobody?

And buy from nobody?

Gweggy tujd just shhat himself. Who will change his nappy??

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #845 - Nov 6^th, 2023 at 8:00pm

Frank wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 7:48pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 7:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 7:24pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 7:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 6:55pm:

https://michaelwest.com.au/australian-arms-exports-to-israel-data-sought-in-cour...

Australian arms exports to Israel data sought in court

November 6, 2023 06:00 | News

Australia has approved 322 defence exports to Israel over the past six years, according to figures revealed during a Senate hearing last month.

Pressed on whether Australian weapons were being used against civilians in Gaza, Defence Ministry Deputy Secretary Hugh Jeffrey told the hearing such exports weren’t lethal in nature and included items such as radios, body armour, software, vehicle parts and sporting equipment.

The ministry maintains that all defence exports including the permits that Australia has approved to Israel have been assessed against stringent and robust export guidelines and international obligations.

But the groups contend, Australia may not be making decisions in accordance with domestic law and may be breaching international humanitarian law such as the Geneva Conventions.

“We are seeing the makings of a genocide unfold in front of our eyes,” Al Mezan Centre director Issam Younis said of the events in Gaza.

“If Australia is selling Israel the means to commit that genocide, it would not only be an unspeakable horror committed against the Palestinian people, it would breach Australia’s obligations under international law and its own rules around arms exports.”

Would you rather we sold ammo to Hamas?

How about selling to nobody?

And buy from nobody?

Gweggy tujd just shhat himself. Who will change his nappy??

Don’t look at me. I’ve done my fair share of changing nappies thank you very much. 😂🤣😆

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #846 - Nov 6^th, 2023 at 8:15pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 4:59pm:

Was listening to a rabbi explaining why the land of Canaan belonged to the Jewish people using the Jewish bible (the Old Testament) as if it were an accurate historical document.

Even Israeli Jewish archaeologists almost universally agree that Moses almost certainly did not actually exist, at least not in the way it is recorded in Exodus.

There are no Egyptian records of a Jewish adopted cousin of Rameses II, or any other pharaoh, named Moses or any other name.

Archeologists have determined that the mountain where Moses received the Ten Commandments is not the actual Mount Sinai known today and the actual Mount is not known with no convincing evidence found at any of the other candidate sites.

So, if Moses didn't exist, then the Jewish historical claim on the land of Canaan is a myth.

What a load of sh1T (which probably explains why you didn’t provide a link).

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #847 - Nov 6^th, 2023 at 8:19pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 8:15pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 4:59pm:

Was listening to a rabbi explaining why the land of Canaan belonged to the Jewish people using the Jewish bible (the Old Testament) as if it were an accurate historical document.

Even Israeli Jewish archaeologists almost universally agree that Moses almost certainly did not actually exist, at least not in the way it is recorded in Exodus.

There are no Egyptian records of a Jewish adopted cousin of Rameses II, or any other pharaoh, named Moses or any other name.

Archeologists have determined that the mountain where Moses received the Ten Commandments is not the actual Mount Sinai known today and the actual Mount is not known with no convincing evidence found at any of the other candidate sites.

So, if Moses didn't exist, then the Jewish historical claim on the land of Canaan is a myth.

What a load of sh1T (which probably explains why you didn’t provide a link).

You're a foul-mouthed little c~nt for a Christian.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvAhdKCQLPQ&t=209s

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #848 - Nov 6^th, 2023 at 8:21pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 2:55pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 1:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 1:05pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 1:01pm:

Don't mention the N word, Bobby. The big fella might have mentioned it once, but he thinks he got away with it.

When the big guy talks people listen.

Oh, I know. As soon as he said Hezbollah are very smart, people started enrolling their kids in madrassas.

When he changed his mind and said he's with Bibi, the base went and enrolled their kids in yeshivas.

Still, it would be good to have some consistency. Aquascoot doesn't know whether he's coming or going.

You?

aquascoot understands that people are far from rational beings, they are emotional beings

and as emotional beings, they need to be constantly studied because they are unpredictable.

hence not knowing what is happening is the correct mental state.

in such a state, you can study the interplay of emotions and learn something

as an idealogue, you are unfortunately cut off from learning
your mind has set like concrete
perhaps israeli ordanance could penetrate it Wink

The SM studies such phenomena, dear, but only as a cautionary tale.

In practice, he bounces out of bed with a plan, stays on course and meets emotional chode reaction with self-determined action.

The SM is the sun to the chode's lunar reaction. He is an alchemist, turning lead into gold, a true agent, not so much a man as a God.

Remember, plot your path and cleave to your destination. Hand on the tiller, steady as she goes. The SM wouldn't accept anything less, no?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #849 - Nov 6^th, 2023 at 10:03pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 8:19pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 8:15pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 4:59pm:

Was listening to a rabbi explaining why the land of Canaan belonged to the Jewish people using the Jewish bible (the Old Testament) as if it were an accurate historical document.

Even Israeli Jewish archaeologists almost universally agree that Moses almost certainly did not actually exist, at least not in the way it is recorded in Exodus.

There are no Egyptian records of a Jewish adopted cousin of Rameses II, or any other pharaoh, named Moses or any other name.

Archeologists have determined that the mountain where Moses received the Ten Commandments is not the actual Mount Sinai known today and the actual Mount is not known with no convincing evidence found at any of the other candidate sites.

So, if Moses didn't exist, then the Jewish historical claim on the land of Canaan is a myth.

What a load of sh1T (which probably explains why you didn’t provide a link).

1. You're a foul-mouthed little c~nt for a Christian.

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvAhdKCQLPQ&t=209s

1. Good! I’m also very angry with you because you posted absolute unsubstantiated BS!

2. The link which you eventually DID provide was in fact awesome! I enjoyed listening to the speaker AND as a Christian I agree 100% with what he had to say. This amazing link however did not support nor did it even make any reference to the absolute unsubstantiated sh1t you originally posted. And as such I’m still quite angry with you. Your claims are ridiculous. And you have not provided anything to support them either. 😐

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #850 - Nov 6^th, 2023 at 10:07pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 8:19pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 8:15pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 4:59pm:

Was listening to a rabbi explaining why the land of Canaan belonged to the Jewish people using the Jewish bible (the Old Testament) as if it were an accurate historical document.

Even Israeli Jewish archaeologists almost universally agree that Moses almost certainly did not actually exist, at least not in the way it is recorded in Exodus.

There are no Egyptian records of a Jewish adopted cousin of Rameses II, or any other pharaoh, named Moses or any other name.

Archeologists have determined that the mountain where Moses received the Ten Commandments is not the actual Mount Sinai known today and the actual Mount is not known with no convincing evidence found at any of the other candidate sites.

So, if Moses didn't exist, then the Jewish historical claim on the land of Canaan is a myth.

What a load of sh1T (which probably explains why you didn’t provide a link).

You're a foul-mouthed little c~nt for a Christian.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvAhdKCQLPQ&t=209s

We're all cunts, dear.

We're all friends here, no?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #851 - Nov 6^th, 2023 at 10:23pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 10:03pm:

1. Good! I’m also very angry with you because you posted absolute unsubstantiated BS!

2. The link which you eventually DID provide was in fact awesome! I enjoyed listening to the speaker AND as a Christian I agree 100% with what he had to say. This amazing link however did not support nor did it even make any reference to the absolute unsubstantiated sh1t you originally posted. And as such I’m still quite angry with you. Your claims are ridiculous. And you have not provided anything to support them either. 😐
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You're a disturbed little bint...

He makes the claim about the Jewish right to the land of Israel after 2 minutes referring to the modern-day Jewish right to Israel using the Jewish bible (Old Testament) as 'proof' of ownership. He's a rabbi, of course he believes the Tanakh is the word of Yahweh.

Jews of today are descended from Turkic peoples (Ashkenazi) and Sephardic (Iberian-descent peoples) and other minorities such as Ethiopian Jews. None of them is Semitic, as the Jews of the Old and New Testaments in the region were.

A bit like African Catholics claiming citizenship of the Vatican.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #852 - Nov 6^th, 2023 at 10:45pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 10:03pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 8:19pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 8:15pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 4:59pm:

Was listening to a rabbi explaining why the land of Canaan belonged to the Jewish people using the Jewish bible (the Old Testament) as if it were an accurate historical document.

Even Israeli Jewish archaeologists almost universally agree that Moses almost certainly did not actually exist, at least not in the way it is recorded in Exodus.

There are no Egyptian records of a Jewish adopted cousin of Rameses II, or any other pharaoh, named Moses or any other name.

Archeologists have determined that the mountain where Moses received the Ten Commandments is not the actual Mount Sinai known today and the actual Mount is not known with no convincing evidence found at any of the other candidate sites.

So, if Moses didn't exist, then the Jewish historical claim on the land of Canaan is a myth.

What a load of sh1T (which probably explains why you didn’t provide a link).

1. You're a foul-mouthed little c~nt for a Christian.

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvAhdKCQLPQ&t=209s

1. Good! I’m also very angry with you because you posted absolute unsubstantiated BS!

2. The link which you eventually DID provide was in fact awesome! I enjoyed listening to the speaker AND as a Christian I agree 100% with what he had to say. This amazing link however did not support nor did it even make any reference to the absolute unsubstantiated sh1t you originally posted. And as such I’m still quite angry with you. Your claims are ridiculous. And you have not provided anything to support them either. 😐

Oh sigh .... I’ve now highlighted the obvious bits of YOUR post which you STILL can’t substantiate.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #853 - Nov 6^th, 2023 at 10:49pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 10:23pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 10:03pm:

1. Good! I’m also very angry with you because you posted absolute unsubstantiated BS!

2. The link which you eventually DID provide was in fact awesome! I enjoyed listening to the speaker AND as a Christian I agree 100% with what he had to say. This amazing link however did not support nor did it even make any reference to the absolute unsubstantiated sh1t you originally posted. And as such I’m still quite angry with you. Your claims are ridiculous. And you have not provided anything to support them either. 😐
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You're a disturbed little bint...

He makes the claim about the Jewish right to the land of Israel after 2 minutes referring to the modern-day Jewish right to Israel using the Jewish bible (Old Testament) as 'proof' of ownership. He's a rabbi, of course he believes the Tanakh is the word of Yahweh.

Jews of today are descended from Turkic peoples (Ashkenazi) and Sephardic (Iberian-descent peoples) and other minorities such as Ethiopian Jews. None of them is Semitic, as the Jews of the Old and New Testaments in the region were.

A bit like African Catholics claiming citizenship of the Vatican.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, Meister.

We Brits are descended from Normans, Saxons and Celts, but we claim citizenship of Van Diemen's Land.

You?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #854 - Nov 6^th, 2023 at 11:01pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 10:23pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 10:03pm:

1. Good! I’m also very angry with you because you posted absolute unsubstantiated BS!

2. The link which you eventually DID provide was in fact awesome! I enjoyed listening to the speaker AND as a Christian I agree 100% with what he had to say. This amazing link however did not support nor did it even make any reference to the absolute unsubstantiated sh1t you originally posted. And as such I’m still quite angry with you. Your claims are ridiculous. And you have not provided anything to support them either. 😐
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You're a disturbed little bint...

He makes the claim about the Jewish right to the land of Israel after 2 minutes referring to the modern-day Jewish right to Israel using the Jewish bible (Old Testament) as 'proof' of ownership. He's a rabbi, of course he believes the Tanakh is the word of Yahweh.

Jews of today are descended from Turkic peoples (Ashkenazi) and Sephardic (Iberian-descent peoples) and other minorities such as Ethiopian Jews. None of them is Semitic, as the Jews of the Old and New Testaments in the region were.

A bit like African Catholics claiming citizenship of the Vatican.

OMG! I can’t believe the rabid anti Semitic BS you’ve just posted. You’re doing this on purpose aren’t you? You’re deliberately posting next level unsubstantiated insanity hoping to bait me. Well it’s not going to work pal.

So far all you’ve succeeded in doing is abusing ME for calling your BS out. That’s it. And everyone who’s reading this topic can see that despite my repeated requests you still can’t provide a single link to back up the problematic subversive claims you’ve made (and which I’ve had to highlight for you).

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