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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #930 - Nov 9^th, 2023 at 9:11pm

Frank wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 8:10pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 7:44pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 7:28pm:

Sooooo... it's mostly Muslim Arabs who are murderously antisemitic anti jewish.
Is your little hairslitting soul at rest now?

No.

European Jew-hate was predicated partly on ethno-chauvinism. Modern Arab animosity is not.

Modern Arab animosity toward Jews/Israelis is predicated on a pernicious territorial dispute between a native, ethnic people and a largely Euro-descent migrant people (in Western Europe, culturally barely discernable from Germans). Ethno-chauvinism does not play a role.

However, modern Jews persist with their ethnic link to the original Semitic Jews of the 1st century CE and prior.

Once upon a time on the Continent, Jews were hated as rootless cosmopolitans who owed no national allegiance. So they became a conventional nation state, and now they're hated for that. And, if Hamas get their way and destroy the Jewish state, the few who survive will be hated for something else.

When you’re on your way up everyone roots for you because you remind them of their dreams.

When you’re at the top everyone tears you down because you remind them of what they gave up on.

Being hated is a lead indicator that you are doing the right thing Wink

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #931 - Nov 9^th, 2023 at 9:15pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 9:11pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 8:10pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 7:44pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 7:28pm:

Sooooo... it's mostly Muslim Arabs who are murderously antisemitic anti jewish.
Is your little hairslitting soul at rest now?

No.

European Jew-hate was predicated partly on ethno-chauvinism. Modern Arab animosity is not.

Modern Arab animosity toward Jews/Israelis is predicated on a pernicious territorial dispute between a native, ethnic people and a largely Euro-descent migrant people (in Western Europe, culturally barely discernable from Germans). Ethno-chauvinism does not play a role.

However, modern Jews persist with their ethnic link to the original Semitic Jews of the 1st century CE and prior.

Once upon a time on the Continent, Jews were hated as rootless cosmopolitans who owed no national allegiance. So they became a conventional nation state, and now they're hated for that. And, if Hamas get their way and destroy the Jewish state, the few who survive will be hated for something else.

When you’re on your way up everyone roots for you because you remind them of their dreams.

When you’re at the top everyone tears you down because you remind them of what they gave up on.

Being hated is a lead indicator that you are doing the right thing Wink

Exactly.
German Jew were the most assimilated, Germanised Jews. Australian Jews, ditto.

Yet the hordes of unassimilated Muslims are calling for their gassing at the Opera House forecourt.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #932 - Nov 10^th, 2023 at 7:29am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 9:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 8:57pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 8:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 8:52pm:

The Palestinians have had a policy to win the war in their bedrooms -
increase the population of the Palestinians till they overwhelm the Jews.

When this latest war started there were 55,000 pregnant women in Gaza.
Who in their right mind would want to bring a up child
in the worst ghetto in the world?

Have you googled the average family size of orthodox and ultra-orthodox Jews in Israel?

No - there are not that many orthodox Jews anyway.

You need to read up on how Orthodox Judaism is growing and threatening the Israeli secular democratic state.

Ah. Suddenly you are concerned for Israel's democracy.

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John Smith Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 74702 Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #933 - Nov 10^th, 2023 at 7:47am Ohh look, the islamaphobes are still making excuses for the bombing of women and children
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105380 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #934 - Nov 10^th, 2023 at 7:58am
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35465 Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #935 - Nov 10^th, 2023 at 8:01am John Smith wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 7:47am: Ohh look, the islamaphobes are still making excuses for the bombing of women and children Ozpol: Wrong side of history consistently.
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #936 - Nov 10^th, 2023 at 8:03am

freediver wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 7:29am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 9:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 8:57pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 8:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 8:52pm:

The Palestinians have had a policy to win the war in their bedrooms -
increase the population of the Palestinians till they overwhelm the Jews.

When this latest war started there were 55,000 pregnant women in Gaza.
Who in their right mind would want to bring a up child
in the worst ghetto in the world?

Have you googled the average family size of orthodox and ultra-orthodox Jews in Israel?

No - there are not that many orthodox Jews anyway.

You need to read up on how Orthodox Judaism is growing and threatening the Israeli secular democratic state.

Ah. Suddenly you are concerned for Israel's democracy.

Suddenly? Concerned?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49091 At my desk.	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #937 - Nov 10^th, 2023 at 8:09am For Israel's democracy.
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #938 - Nov 10^th, 2023 at 8:18am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 8:38pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 8:34pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 8:24pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 8:16pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 8:07pm:

https://i.ibb.co/vhsTRTj/1697286027840.jpg

The notion that Muslims are one big happy brotherhood - as in the brotherhood of Muslims being a foundational feature of Islam, is as laughable as all Christians loving each other.

True, but they are all united in one thing (along with JohnSmith) is their hatred of jews.

There's a lot of it still surviving in Europe and throughout the Anglosphere.

The estimated population of Jews in the world is about 15 million.
Can't they have this tiny sliver of land?
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Can the traditional owners of your property have your tiny sliver of land?

Not really, Meister. Gordon rents it out to a Laotian with a surname ending in Vitz.

He's intact.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #939 - Nov 10^th, 2023 at 8:22am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 7:58am:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/152/487/453/original/4e28eb...

Strange. With the exception of the Ayatollah, these are the guys your DL likes to party with.

Xi loves his country, Vlad's a peacemaker and Kim's his little buddy.

If your DL get in, they'll be Uncle's new allies.

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12584 Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #940 - Nov 10^th, 2023 at 8:22am freediver wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 8:09am: For Israel's democracy. Suddenly? Concerned?
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #941 - Nov 10^th, 2023 at 8:41am

Karnal wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 8:22am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 7:58am:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/152/487/453/original/4e28eb...

Strange. With the exception of the Ayatollah, these are the guys your DL likes to party with.

Xi loves his country, Vlad's a peacemaker and Kim's his little buddy.

If your DL get in, they'll be Uncle's new allies.

partying with them would be pretty awesome, way more fun than joe biden

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #942 - Nov 10^th, 2023 at 10:13am

JC Denton wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 8:41am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 8:22am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 7:58am:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/152/487/453/original/4e28eb...

Strange. With the exception of the Ayatollah, these are the guys your DL likes to party with.

Xi loves his country, Vlad's a peacemaker and Kim's his little buddy.

If your DL get in, they'll be Uncle's new allies.

partying with them would be pretty awesome, way more fun than joe biden

True. As long as you don't get polonium dropped in your drink or sent off to the firing squad for having g a different haircut to Kim, you're right. I believe Putin's palace even has it's own pole dancing stage.

At Xi's, you have to keep up with his shots of baijiu. At Kim's, you've got to match him on turnips. Vlad's easy - as long as you're happy to be beaten at judo, it's all good.

But do you know? You can give me boring old Western democracy any day. Here, I can party with whoever I want. There? Read your Dee Snider.

You've gotta fight for your right to party, no?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #943 - Nov 10^th, 2023 at 4:44pm

mothra wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 8:01am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 7:47am:

Ohh look, the islamaphobes are still making excuses for the bombing of women and children Roll Eyes

Ozpol: Wrong side of history consistently.

Today's undergraduate miff: historicism.

Mother Frightbat knows the way history is unfolding, don't you know. Oh, yes.

She is on the 'right side of it", you see, pwogwessing nicely. Just don't ask where she is pwogwessing to. That is such a male, colonial, supremacist construct, goals. Reject such violently imposed settler colonial epistemologies. No.

Like orchids, it's all about the unfolding. The journey. Personal growth, social justice for all. That is the right side of history. She knows.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #944 - Nov 10^th, 2023 at 6:34pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 8:22am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 7:58am:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/152/487/453/original/4e28eb...

Strange. With the exception of the Ayatollah, these are the guys your DL likes to party with.

Xi loves his country, Vlad's a peacemaker and Kim's his little buddy.

If your DL get in, they'll be Uncle's new allies.

But Trump had them under control -
he used to get love letters from Kim.

Trump is: a prophet, a Messiah, a redeemer and a saviour.

Only he can lead the world out of the wilderness to the promised land.

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