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Reply #15 - Dec 3rd, 2023 at 5:12am
 
Israeli army knew the attack was coming and how big it would be, definitely.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intellig...

Guess they wanted an excuse to kill more Gaza inhabitants?
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Reply #16 - Dec 3rd, 2023 at 10:49am
 
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Reply #17 - Dec 4th, 2023 at 9:09pm
 
September 11 in the Middle East!


by Manlio Dinucci

15 OCTOBER 2023

According to the official version, the Hamas attack “caught Israel by surprise”. However, a series of inexplicable facts do not make the official version credible.

How is it possible that the Gaza barrier was breached with bulldozers without anyone noticing?

The 64-kilometre barrier surrounding Gaza is made of an underground wall equipped with sensors to prevent tunnelling, and a 6-metre high fence with sensors, radars, cameras and automatic weapons systems connected to a command, and is manned by soldiers.

How is it possible that on that very day, a music festival was taking place involving thousands of young people, and located in the desert a few kilometres from Gaza, in an area already considered dangerous because it was within range of Hamas rockets, and moreover left without any security force?

How is it possible when Hamas militants attacked over 20 Israeli population centres, killing (according to official figures) 1300 people, the Israeli special forces, considered among the best in the world, did not immediately intervene with helicopters and only intervened with police force?

How is it possible that Mossad, considered one of the most efficient Secret Services in the world, did not realize that Hamas was preparing its attack?

The essential answers come from an article, published on October 8 by the Israeli newspaper The Times of Israel:

“For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu have adopted a policy that has divided the Gaza Strip and the West Bank between two different powers, bringing Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees and favouring Hamas.

Hamas was treated as a partner to the detriment of the Palestinian Authority to prevent Abbas from moving towards creating a Palestinian State. Hamas was promoted from a terrorist group to an organization with which Israel conducted negotiations through Egypt, and which was allowed to receive suitcases containing millions of dollars from Qatar through the Gaza crossings.”

All these facts outline a scenario similar to the terrorist attack on New York and Washington on September 11, 2001, when the entire US intelligence and Defence System was “caught by surprise” by an alleged Al-Qaeda attack.

Irrefutable evidence (officially ignored or dismissed as “conspiracy”) demonstrates that 9/11 was not carried out by Al Qaeda, as a means to trigger the “global war on terrorism” with the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq and subsequent wars.

Something similar is happening today in Israel, whose entire Intelligence and Defence system was apparently “caught by surprise” by the Hamas attack.

The strategic aim of the operation is, on the one hand, to “put an end” to the Palestinians (so far there have been over 1,500 dead, including 500 children, and over 7000 injured) and to take over their territories.

The Israeli command has ordered the evacuation of over one million inhabitants, over half of the entire population, from the northern half of Gaza. On the other hand, the strategic aim of the operation is to trigger a chain reaction of wars in the Middle East, targeting Iran, where the United States, Israel and the European powers are losing ground.


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Reply #18 - Dec 4th, 2023 at 9:15pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 5:12am:
Israeli army knew the attack was coming and how big it would be, definitely.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intellig...

Guess they wanted an excuse to kill more Gaza inhabitants?



Even the NYT says they dismissed it for entirely different reasons, juvenile.
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Reply #19 - Jul 28th, 2024 at 6:59pm
 
October 7th in Context


by  W.M. Peterson

Hamas's unprecedented attack wasn't just some random event materializing out of thin air, as the Jewish media continually tries to portray it. Since 1948, the Palestinian people have been forced to live under a brutal military occupation and have been reduced to a rank below that of second-class citizens in their ancestral homeland...

Historical grievances aside, there were a handful of recent provocations by the Israelis that were so inflammatory one has to wonder if they weren't intentionally designed to instigate a reprisal. Chief among these were a series of violent confrontations between Palestinian religious observers and Israeli police occurring at the Al-Aqsa Mosque, located on the Temple Mount, in April of 2023...

In early April 2023, there were widespread reports that Jewish extremists were planning to perform an animal sacrifice inside the Al-Aqsa compound in observation of Passover, set to begin on the night of April 4th. Indeed, Israeli police detained an individual on April 3rd attempting to do just that...

On the night of April 4, a few hundred Palestinians barricaded themselves inside the Al-Aqsa Mosque after Ramadan prayers due to concern that Jewish extremists intended to sacrifice a goat. In response, heavily armed Israeli police raided the mosque in riot gear, firing rubber bullets and tear gas, throwing stun grenades and beating Palestinians unconscious with batons, injuring at least 50 people and arresting 400. Video of the incident quickly went viral, forcing a senior Israeli official to publicly admit the police response "went too far" -- though his true concern might've been revealed when he added that the attack "caused significant PR harm to Israel on the global stage."

Above is a short recap of but one recent provocation in what has been an ongoing saga of oppression and genocide of the Palestinian people for nearly 80 years. Many more horrific examples exist and have been thoroughly documented in dozens of exceptional books on the subject, such as God Cried by Tony Clifton and Catherine Leroy and The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Israeli historian Ilan Pappe.

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Hamas's rudimentary military operation on October 7th still remains shrouded in mystery over half a year later. Seemingly unanswerable questions (unanswerable within the framework of the official story anyway) persist and continue to baffle those familiar with the realities of life in occupied Palestine. Thoughtful commentators have wondered how it was possible that Israel, a world leading surveillance/military powerhouse, allowed a primitive attack utilizing hang gliders, tractors, motorcycles and rubber dinghies to form right under their collective nose and to transpire for hours on end without any meaningful military response? Could it be that Israel issued a 'stand down' order, allowing the attack to happen for the purpose of justifying specific pre-planned political agendas? If so, it certainly wouldn't be the first time. (See the Lavon Affair, King David Hotel bombing, USS Liberty, 9/11, etc.)

A former IDF reserve sergeant who gave her name only as Elena, cast doubt on the official story shortly after the attack when she told the media about her past experiences monitoring the border wall separating Gaza and Israel: "There is no chance of approaching the border without being noticed...We looked at the monitor for 4 hours and saw everything that was happening there. It was impossible to even look away. And there are 400 of them. Listen, I was woken up at night when a pigeon was noticed, when a stork approached the fence, almost when a cockroach ran under the fence. And here, it turns out, they calmly overcame everything with the help of tractors? And it turns out that none of the 400 people noticed this? Yes, I'm telling you: not even a dove will fly up unnoticed."

On October 26, 2023, The Times of Israel reported on a group of IDF soldiers who, for months prior to the attack, repeatedly tried to pass information about "digging, mapping, (and) training near the fence" up their chain of command, but were completely ignored. According to the New York Times (Dec. 2, 2023), Israel knew of Hamas's plan to attack a year in advance and were even in possession of their 40-page battle plan document, codenamed 'Jericho Wall,' that was said to "uncannily mirror" what actually transpired on October 7th! More shocking still was a report in Associated Press (Dec. 1, 2023), which detailed Israel's obvious awareness of the forthcoming military operation: "The attack was planned in plain sight. A month before the assault, Hamas posted a video to social media showing fighters using explosives to blast through a replica of the border gate, sweep in on pickup trucks and then move building by building through a full-scale reconstruction of an Israeli town, firing automatic weapons at human-silhouetted targets."

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Israel actually created Hamas ...  Former Israeli religious affairs official Avner Cohen admitted as much to the Wall Street Journal in a January 24, 2009 article titled 'How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas,' stating bluntly: "Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel's creation."


full report:


https://revisionistview.blogspot.com/2024/05/october-7th-in-context.html



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Reply #20 - Jul 28th, 2024 at 7:31pm
 
There's no doubt Israeli Jews had knowledge of the planned Hamas attack.

There's no doubt Israeli Jews murdered other Israeli Jews as required by the Hannibal directive. The only question is did Israeli Jews kill more of the dead Israelis than Hamas did.

We will never know the truth because Israeli leaders lie incessantly.
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Reply #21 - Oct 16th, 2024 at 8:45pm
 
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September 11 in the Middle East!


by Manlio Dinucci

15 OCTOBER 2023




UPDATE 14 OCTOBER  2024


A year ago, based on a series of facts that proved the existence of a plan similar to the one that served to unleash the “global war on terrorism”, and led to the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq by the United States and NATO on September 11, 2001, Grandangolo ran with the headline “The 9/11 of the Middle East”.

The plan carried out by Hamas on 7 October 2023 had been known for a year to Israel’s leaders, who were not surprised by the attack but facilitated it. This is confirmed by testimonies published in recent days by the Wall Street Journal of young female Israeli soldiers in charge of the electronic barrier around Gaza. The WSJ reports:

“For months, they had repeatedly warned their superiors that the militant Islamic group Hamas appeared to be preparing a major attack “.



Was the Hamas Attack a “False Flag”?



“I served in the IDF 25 years ago, in the intelligence forces. There’s no way Israel did not know of what’s coming.

A cat moving alongside the fence is triggering all forces. So this??

What happened to the “strongest army in the world”?

How come border crossings were wide open?? Something is VERY WRONG HERE, something is very strange, this chain of events is very unusual and not typical for the Israeli defense system.

To me this suprise attack seems like a planned operation. On all fronts.


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At the time of the attack, the women issued urgent warnings to troops on the ground. They desperately called for help as more than 150 militants entered their base, about half a mile from Gaza. None came. The end result was the death of 15 female soldiers from this base and the transfer of seven to Gaza as hostages. From this and many other pieces of evidence, the “7 October” plan emerges: to make Israel appear surprised and thus forced to retaliate, to present as “defensive” the war of extermination with which Israel is destroying Gaza and the West Bank to wipe out the Palestinian state, with which it is attacking Lebanon, Yemen, Syria.


https://www.globalresearch.ca/7-october-plan-iran-sights/5870086
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Reply #22 - Oct 17th, 2024 at 6:32am
 
Lies.

I keep warning youse dorks about the destruction of legal and civil rights here - I keep warning you of future moves etc - do you listen?

NO!  You see it as part of the background noise.

Intelligence gathering is not a fine science - it is an accumulation of views and information and not every report can be acted on... there is a system for grading intel, which I've laid out for youse before.... and it is not considered to be perfect but the best available.

Every day before the Hamas Invasion there was the chance of a Hamas Invasion ... same with Hezbollah....  Pearl Harbour should have demonstrated the fallacy of taking a break and holidays and such - prime times for the world's scum to attack.  As for ceasefires?  Remember the number of ceasefires in Vietnam?  Never once reduced the flights of projectiles from the Enemy.  Remember Tet - Chinese New Year celebrations... in 1967 and 1968 those were not fireworks you could hear... oh - you forgot 1967 ... OK......
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Reply #23 - Oct 17th, 2024 at 7:51pm
 
'A newly surfaced document has revealed that the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) and intelligence systems had detailed knowledge of Hamas's plan to raid Israel and kidnap 250 people weeks before the October 7 massacre . . . The document, titled "Detailed End-to-End Raid Training," was distributed on September 19, 2023, and described in detail the series of exercises conducted by Hamas's elite units. These exercises included raiding military posts and kibbutzim . . . kidnapping soldiers and civilians, and maintaining the hostages once they were in the Gaza Strip.

'The report by Kan News stated, "Security sources told Kan News that the document was known to the intelligence leadership, at the very least in the Gaza Division.". . . The report further detailed that Israeli intelligence officials monitored the exercise and documented the steps Hamas planned to take after breaching Israeli territory and taking over military posts. The expected number of hostages, according to the document, was between 200 and 250 people." '

And this:

'The IDF had precise information about Hamas's intentions, but due to prevailing conceptions within the security establishment and possible negligence by senior officials, the warning signs were not acted upon.'

Not acted upon? I don't believe it! They let it happen so as to justify the destruction of Gaza!

https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-806634
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