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Oct 25th, 2023 at 8:35pm
 
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered Israel’s military to stand down for 7 hours during Hamas’ assault on the Jewish nation last week, according to reports.

Jewish Pro-Life Foundation leader Cecily Routman, citing government sources, claimed Netanyahu ordered the stand down to allow Hamas to launch its attack in order to justify Israeli retaliation against Gaza meant to ultimately wipe the Palestinian enclave off the map.

“Israel as the most sophisticated intelligence in the world. There is no way the government didn’t know that that was going to happen,” Routman told conservative activist Lauren Witzke in an interview released Saturday.

Routman explained that Rabbi Chananya Weissman, who’s connected with top officials in the Israeli government, “sent out a missive that, indeed, the IDF was given stand down orders – both the army and the air force – seven hours to stand down while those attacks took place.”

“Personally, I think that this situation is akin to a family keeping a rabid dog in their home and then blaming the dog when their baby gets bitten.”

“I look at the government of Israel and they really needed to make sure these people did not proliferate on their borders. And so they are held partially accountable for having to kill God’s creations in order to secure their border. This should never have happened,” Routman added.

Her claims corroborate reports from Oct. 7, in the first hours of Hamas’ attack on Israel, that the Israeli military was nowhere to be found.

However, ABC News reported that Israel’s air force began shelling Gaza about 4 hours after Hamas began its assault, and its government activated its reserves about two hours after the attack began.

But that doesn’t adequately explain Israel’s inexplicable intelligence failure that gave Hamas the opportunity to launch its attack in the first place.

Perhaps Hamas’ terror attack really was Israel’s 9/11 — another inside job to justify full-scale war, that is.


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Reply #1 - Oct 25th, 2023 at 10:23pm
 
wombatwoody wrote on Oct 25th, 2023 at 8:35pm:
“Israel as the most sophisticated intelligence in the world. There is no way the government didn’t know that that was going to happen,” Routman told conservative activist Lauren Witzke in an interview released Saturday.

However, ABC News reported that Israel’s air force began shelling Gaza about 4 hours after Hamas began its assault, and its government activated its reserves about two hours after the attack began.

But that doesn’t adequately explain Israel’s inexplicable intelligence failure that gave Hamas the opportunity to launch its attack in the first place.

Perhaps Hamas’ terror attack really was Israel’s 9/11 — another inside job to justify full-scale war, that is.


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Hamas weren't using electronic devices to plan this attack.They were using old fashioned phone cables in tunnels.

Israel has eliminated several Hamas by using mobile phones to locate them then dropped Hellfire missile on them.

You can't prevent every attack.

Per Capita this was much bigger than 9/11 for Israel.

Read the Hamas covenant in Islam section.
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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.
 
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Reply #2 - Oct 28th, 2023 at 8:42pm
 
"Israel’s 9/11 — another inside job to justify full-scale war, that is."

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If there’s one reason, above all the others, why Israel meticulously engineered this war with Palestine — AT THIS SPECIFIC MOMENT IN HISTORY — it is this:


Dome of the Rock

The real problem for Israel’s Messianic Jews is that the ultra-sacred Islamic site, known as the Dome of the Rock, is a shrine situated inside of the Al-Aqsa Mosque which are both located on the Temple Mount in the Old City of Jerusalem.

That most holy of holy mosques within the Islamic tradition was built on the same site as the first two Hebrew temples in Jerusalem.

“After the destruction of the First Temple in Jerusalem by the Babylonians in 586 BCE, the Jews of the Kingdom of Judea went into exile. In 538 BCE during the reign of Cyrus the Great, the Jews returned to Jerusalem and were able to build the Second Temple on the site of the original one that had been destroyed.”(Source: Destruction of the Second Temple in 70 CE)

Now here’s the real problem…for the Messianic Jews as well as the Christian Zionists who support them.

They are operating according to a very strict timeline to get the long-prophesied Third Temple constructed.  That schedule has already been set back by a number of unanticipated events which are beyond the scope of this short exposé.

Nevertheless, the dictates of the Hebrew Calendar must be adhered to, according to the most orthodox Jewish sects who completely control Prime Minster Benjamin Netanyahu.

Which means that PM Netanyahu had to resort to a very desperate series of black ops (and psyops) to get the job done.  In fact, Bibi had to pull off something so brazen and so stunning and so reckless that those false flag attacks / terrorist operations would sufficiently shock the collective Israeli consciousness so that he could justify taking over the Al-Aqsa Mosque for reasons of “national security”.

To be continued —
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Reply #3 - Oct 28th, 2023 at 9:01pm
 
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Reply #4 - Oct 28th, 2023 at 10:22pm
 
Belgarion wrote on Oct 28th, 2023 at 9:01pm:
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Not at all. They are hell-bent on artificially fulfilling apocalyptic Biblical prophecy.The construction of the temple on that site is an important part of that.

Why do you think they chose Palestine for their 'homeland', which entailed fighting the Arabs again and again, when the combined fortune of the Jewish bankers could've bought many other pleces of land on earth?

See the Zionism thread:


When I talked to these people I saw that they took it (the Bible) literally. Furthermore, in one of my conversations with Mr. Ben Gurion he made the remark that, "the Bible is our charter." I began to realize that Zionism is a thinly veiled theocracy. The Bible was in their minds when they were talking, but they used modern nationalistic language in order to hide the fact that this was theocratic in nature. They realized that a theocratic society would not appeal to America.

I might mention here that I have found Zionism very deceitful. There is a double meaning in all the words Zionists use, and [Chaim] Weizmann himself said one time, "Let the British or anyone else talk about Zionism and they can use our terminology, but we know what the meaning of it is. It has one meaning to us, one meaning to the Gentiles." They've always had this double-entendre in everything that they have done. Whenever they use words you have to try to find out what is the context in which they are using these words.

This threw me back to studying the Bible again to see what they are talking about; what is "Eretz Israel," which includes this tremendous territory? Furthermore, in the covenants which God gave to the Jewish people, he said, "You are to be a pure and holy people and not to be contaminated by contact with Gentiles. Therefore, you should cast out all the inhabitants that are there and make it a Jewish state." ...
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Reply #5 - Oct 28th, 2023 at 10:48pm
 
Palestine was invented by the Romans who stole parts of Israel/Judah and gave it to the Arabs to disrupt the Jews.
The Romans are no longer around and Palestine should cease to exist.
It was Jewish Land long before the Arab and long before Mohommedism.

Palestine is a fake nation.
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Reply #6 - Oct 29th, 2023 at 3:59pm
 
Jasin wrote on Oct 28th, 2023 at 10:48pm:
Palestine was invented by the Romans who stole parts of Israel/Judah and gave it to the Arabs to disrupt the Jews.
The Romans are no longer around and Palestine should cease to exist.
It was Jewish Land long before the Arab and long before Mohommedism.

Palestine is a fake nation.


See Reply #17 in your Palestine created by Romans thread.
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Reply #7 - Oct 29th, 2023 at 4:19pm
 
wombatwoody wrote on Oct 28th, 2023 at 10:22pm:
Belgarion wrote on Oct 28th, 2023 at 9:01pm:
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Not at all. They are hell-bent on artificially fulfilling apocalyptic Biblical prophecy. The construction of the temple on that site is an important part of that.



Armageddon – Zionism’s Diabolical Goal


by Grace Halsell

Oct. 29, 2003


I first went to Jerusalem in 1979 to research a book dealing with Christians, Muslims, and Jews...

On arrival in Jerusalem, our group went to the old City and we approached the large Muslim grounds where the Dome of the Rock and Al- Aqsa Mosque are located. “There” said our Israeli tour guide, pointing to the mosque, “we will build our third temple.”

As we left the site, I remarked to Clyde, a retired Minneapolis business executive, that the guide said a temple would be built there. But, I asked, what about the mosque? It is one of the three most sacred shrines in all Islam, and holy to a billion Muslims around the world.

“Oh” said Clyde, “the mosque will be destroyed. One way or another, it has to be removed. You know, it’s in the Bible that the temple must be built. And there’s no other place for it.”

Clyde was convinced that Jews, aided by Christians, should destroy the mosque, build a temple, and reinstate the killing of animals in the temple — all in order to please God.


Many Christians throughout this land feel the same as Clyde. They have organized a Temple Mount Foundation to raise money to help Jewish terrorists destroy the Muslim mosque. I talked with several, including Terry Reisenhoover of Oklahoma, and the Reverend James deLoach of Houston’s Second Baptist Church.

The Rev. DeLoach visited in my apartment in Washington, and was proud to tell me he had raised and spent tens of thousands of dollars to defend Jewish terrorists charged with assaults on the mosque. He was also pleased to relate that he had entertained, in his Houston home, Jewish yeshiva students who were studying how to slaughter animals, to be used as sacrifice inside the temple they hope to build.

The Christians who want the mosque destroyed — and a Jewish temple built — follow a belief system called dispensationalism. In all the world, in all of history, they place Israel on center stage...

They contend that we must all go through seven time periods. The countdown on history began, they tell us, in 1948, with the gathering of Jews into Palestine and the creation of the modern state of Israel. The dispensationalists believe in a God not of love, but of war: they believe in what is termed Armageddon theology.

Our group also traveled to Meggido, located about an hour’s drive north of Tel Aviv.

As we left the bus, I walked alongside Clyde, the retired business executive. As we looked out over the valley, Clyde exclaimed: “At last! I am viewing the site of Armageddon.”

We continued to gaze at fields — that in size would be lost in any Texas ranch — and Clyde talked of a 200-million-man army that would invade Israel: “Right here!” he said. And a great decisive battle would ensue that would involve all the armies of the Earth. This battle, involving nuclear weapons, would kill most of the inhabitants of this Earth...

In closing, I want to mention a trip I made to Basel, Switzerland. I attended the first Christian Zionist Congress. I was one of 589 persons from 27 countries attending this Congress.

It was held in the same hall where Theodor Herzl had called the first Jewish Zionist Congress, about 100 years ago. Herzl had stressed that Jews were different and should live exclusively among Jews. Christian Zionists say the same. This conference was supported by the Israelis.

I listened to speakers who were Jewish Zionists as well as Christian Zionists. Rather than provide hope by suggesting steps whereby Jews and Arabs might reach reconciliation, and live together, in peace, each speaker seemed to reinforce the fears of the other. Rather than stress how much Arabs and Jews — and indeed all human beings — have in common, speakers told us: Jews are different. They must live exclusively among Jews.

Christian Zionists believe that God has ordained that the Jews control the land of Palestine, and that they control Jerusalem, and build a temple, and that they reinstate animal sacrifice.
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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

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Reply #8 - Oct 29th, 2023 at 6:27pm
 
The animal sacrifice part is krap. The exclusivity bit is true.

But I'm curious, Wombat. Do you hope to see Jews living peacefully together with Arabs?

That's a question.
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Reply #9 - Oct 29th, 2023 at 6:47pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 29th, 2023 at 6:27pm:
The animal sacrifice part is krap. The exclusivity bit is true.

But I'm curious, Wombat. Do you hope to see Jews living peacefully together with Arabs?

That's a question.


Perhaps he's afraid the perfect red heifer calf will be born.
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Reply #10 - Oct 29th, 2023 at 8:23pm
 
Jasin wrote on Oct 28th, 2023 at 10:48pm:
Palestine was invented by the Romans
The Romans are no longer around and Palestine should cease to exist.
Abraham was an Iraqi tourist from Ur.
Sadly, the Empire is gone and Australia has ceased. JaSin has no Voice in Aboriginal elders' dreaming.
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Reply #11 - Oct 29th, 2023 at 8:30pm
 
chimera wrote on Oct 29th, 2023 at 8:23pm:
Jasin wrote on Oct 28th, 2023 at 10:48pm:
Palestine was invented by the Romans
The Romans are no longer around and Palestine should cease to exist.
Abraham was an Iraqi tourist from Ur.
Sadly, the Empire is gone and Australia has ceased. JaSin has no Voice in Aboriginal elders' dreaming.


Oh no! We should give him a voice to parliament!
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Reply #12 - Nov 1st, 2023 at 11:06pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 29th, 2023 at 6:27pm:
The animal sacrifice part is krap.


No it is not.

According to chabad.org, the Chabad-Lubavitch's official site:

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From the perspective of Kabbalah, the sacrifices were a way of elevating the matter and vitality of this world to a higher plane. In addition to elevating the various layers of the human soul, sacrifices in the Temple also elevated the actual animal being offered, thereby elevating the entire animal kingdom.

With the absence of a Temple and altar today, it is forbidden to offer sacrifices (see links below). However, our sages tell us that our prayers today are in place of the sacrifices. In addition to asking G‑d for our needs, prayer is a time to focus on self-improvement. It is a time when we “offer” our animal soul to G‑d, refining our animalistic tendencies and submitting them to His will.

We pray for the time when the Third Temple will be rebuilt, where the sacrifices will be offered once more.


Chabad-Lubavitch is the most prominent and influential orthodox sect.


Karnal wrote on Oct 29th, 2023 at 6:27pm:
Do you hope to see Jews living peacefully together with Arabs?


I'd like to see all people in all nations living peacefully but with Israel that won't happen. The religious fanatics won't allow it. They believe if they give up one square inch of that land they will incur the wrath of their god:


Another decision concerning the prohibition of handing over a part of the Land of Israel to the Gentiles, dated 21 Iyyar, 5739 (1979), forbids the transfer of any territory, including that which was conceded to Egypt in return for peace: "According to our holy Torah and the clear and authoritative law, there is a strict ban on transferring ownership to the Gentiles of any single part of the Land of Israel, because it is sanctified by the sacredness of the biblical 'Covenant between the Pieces'." This invocation of the Covenant of Abraham elucidates how an archaic and primordial symbol of the slaughtering of animals, used by primeval tribes as evidence of political union, becomes a source of authority for contemporay political policy. Returning the territories, the chief Rabbinate ruled, would constitute a violation of the commandment, "and though shalt not show mercy unto them" (Deuteronomy 7:2): the Gentiles should not be given the right of encampment on the soil of the Land of Israel, "and no argument of the saving of lives (pikuach nefesh) can invalidate this severe prohibition."

  -  Uriel Tal, Foundations of a Political Messianic Trend in Israel

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Reply #13 - Nov 4th, 2023 at 6:11pm
 
An Israeli (who has previously served on the Gaza border) explains why he believes someone in authority knew of the Hamas attack & let it happen. Either that or the IDF is the most incompetent army on the planet.
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Reply #14 - Dec 2nd, 2023 at 9:20pm
 
New York Post:

The US has confirmed that Egypt warned Tel Aviv of a possible impending attack, according to the chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee — who says he is “not quite sure” how Israel and the US “missed it.”

“We know that Egypt had warned the Israelis three days prior that an event like this could happen,” Rep. Michael McCaul (R-Texas) said Wednesday following a closed-door intelligence briefing, according to the Wall Street Journal.

https://nypost.com/2023/10/12/us-confirms-egypt-warned-israel-days-before-hamas-...

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