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Reply #76 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:27pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:18pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:13pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 6:42pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 6:37pm:

Fact: Jews will live with Muslims but few Muslims want to live with Jews.

Jewish-Israelis generally do not like Arab-Israelis, even less Arabs in general. They don't particularly appreciate hearing Arabic spoken in Israel and definitely do not appreciate the Temple Mount being an Islamic holy site.

Stop editorialising.
Arabs are 20% of the population, 10% of parliament, earn proportional amount of masters degrees etc etc.

Show me the parallel of this for Jews in a Muslim country.

Oh another hilarious thing, Israeli arabs have more freedom of speech in Israel than in ANY ARAB COUNTRY.

Arab-Israelis only exist in Israel by an accident of location when Israel was established - it was not by design of those migrated Jews into Palestine.

And don't imagine that Orthodox Jews have given up on the idea of establishing the Third Temple.

Show me the parallel of this for Jews in a Muslim country.

Given Jews are covered by Israel's Law Of Return - which applies only to Jews, nearly all Jews in Muslim countries have migrated to Israel.

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Reply #77 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:28pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:27pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:18pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:13pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 6:42pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 6:37pm:

Fact: Jews will live with Muslims but few Muslims want to live with Jews.

Jewish-Israelis generally do not like Arab-Israelis, even less Arabs in general. They don't particularly appreciate hearing Arabic spoken in Israel and definitely do not appreciate the Temple Mount being an Islamic holy site.

Stop editorialising.
Arabs are 20% of the population, 10% of parliament, earn proportional amount of masters degrees etc etc.

Show me the parallel of this for Jews in a Muslim country.

Oh another hilarious thing, Israeli arabs have more freedom of speech in Israel than in ANY ARAB COUNTRY.

Arab-Israelis only exist in Israel by an accident of location when Israel was established - it was not by design of those migrated Jews into Palestine.

And don't imagine that Orthodox Jews have given up on the idea of establishing the Third Temple.

Show me the parallel of this for Jews in a Muslim country.

Given Jews are covered by Israel's Law Of Return - which applies only to Jews, nearly all Jews in Muslim countries have migrated to Israel.

After expulsion and death threats

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Reply #78 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:32pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:28pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:27pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:18pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:13pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 6:42pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 6:37pm:

Fact: Jews will live with Muslims but few Muslims want to live with Jews.

Jewish-Israelis generally do not like Arab-Israelis, even less Arabs in general. They don't particularly appreciate hearing Arabic spoken in Israel and definitely do not appreciate the Temple Mount being an Islamic holy site.

Stop editorialising.
Arabs are 20% of the population, 10% of parliament, earn proportional amount of masters degrees etc etc.

Show me the parallel of this for Jews in a Muslim country.

Oh another hilarious thing, Israeli arabs have more freedom of speech in Israel than in ANY ARAB COUNTRY.

Arab-Israelis only exist in Israel by an accident of location when Israel was established - it was not by design of those migrated Jews into Palestine.

And don't imagine that Orthodox Jews have given up on the idea of establishing the Third Temple.

Show me the parallel of this for Jews in a Muslim country.

Given Jews are covered by Israel's Law Of Return - which applies only to Jews, nearly all Jews in Muslim countries have migrated to Israel.

After expulsion and death threats

Sometimes, often, even.

But certainly for security reasons - particularly after 1948.

Of course, the whole reason for migration out of Europe becomming as urgent as it became, was not because of Muslim oppression, but because of European oppression, expulsions, pogroms and mass murders of Jews.

How many European countries can you name that did not discriminate, expel or murder Jews at some time in their history?

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Reply #79 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:35pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:32pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:28pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:27pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:18pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:13pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 6:42pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 6:37pm:

Fact: Jews will live with Muslims but few Muslims want to live with Jews.

Jewish-Israelis generally do not like Arab-Israelis, even less Arabs in general. They don't particularly appreciate hearing Arabic spoken in Israel and definitely do not appreciate the Temple Mount being an Islamic holy site.

Stop editorialising.
Arabs are 20% of the population, 10% of parliament, earn proportional amount of masters degrees etc etc.

Show me the parallel of this for Jews in a Muslim country.

Oh another hilarious thing, Israeli arabs have more freedom of speech in Israel than in ANY ARAB COUNTRY.

Arab-Israelis only exist in Israel by an accident of location when Israel was established - it was not by design of those migrated Jews into Palestine.

And don't imagine that Orthodox Jews have given up on the idea of establishing the Third Temple.

Show me the parallel of this for Jews in a Muslim country.

Given Jews are covered by Israel's Law Of Return - which applies only to Jews, nearly all Jews in Muslim countries have migrated to Israel.

After expulsion and death threats

Sometimes, often, even.

But certainly for security reasons - particularly after 1948.

Of course, the whole reason for migration out of Europe becomming as urgent as it became, was not because of Muslim oppression, but because of European oppression, expulsions, pogroms and mass murders of Jews.

How many European countries can you name that did not discriminate, expel or murder Jews at some time in their history?

Denmark. Sweden. Norway. Holland.

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Reply #80 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:38pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:32pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:28pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:27pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:18pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:13pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 6:42pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 6:37pm:

Fact: Jews will live with Muslims but few Muslims want to live with Jews.

Jewish-Israelis generally do not like Arab-Israelis, even less Arabs in general. They don't particularly appreciate hearing Arabic spoken in Israel and definitely do not appreciate the Temple Mount being an Islamic holy site.

Stop editorialising.
Arabs are 20% of the population, 10% of parliament, earn proportional amount of masters degrees etc etc.

Show me the parallel of this for Jews in a Muslim country.

Oh another hilarious thing, Israeli arabs have more freedom of speech in Israel than in ANY ARAB COUNTRY.

Arab-Israelis only exist in Israel by an accident of location when Israel was established - it was not by design of those migrated Jews into Palestine.

And don't imagine that Orthodox Jews have given up on the idea of establishing the Third Temple.

Show me the parallel of this for Jews in a Muslim country.

Given Jews are covered by Israel's Law Of Return - which applies only to Jews, nearly all Jews in Muslim countries have migrated to Israel.

After expulsion and death threats

Sometimes, often, even.

But certainly for security reasons - particularly after 1948.

Of course, the whole reason for migration out of Europe becomming as urgent as it became, was not because of Muslim oppression, but because of European oppression, expulsions, pogroms and mass murders of Jews.

How many European countries can you name that did not discriminate, expel or murder Jews at some time in their history?

So we can agree whether dispersed around the world, or in one group Jews are hated and persecuted.

It makes sense they congregate in one group where they can defended themselves (very well) from masses who want them dead.

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Reply #81 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:49pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:38pm:

So we can agree whether dispersed around the world, or in one group Jews are hated and persecuted.

It makes sense they congregate in one group where they can defended themselves (very well) from masses who want them dead.

Yes, it made sense to those post-war Jews and to European countries that would otherwise have been tasked with the moral responsibility of taking them in - not that hot an idea for European Jewish survivors given what European non-Jews had done to them.

Even today you will find ancestral Jew-hate in Europe.

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Reply #82 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:56pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:49pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:38pm:

So we can agree whether dispersed around the world, or in one group Jews are hated and persecuted.

It makes sense they congregate in one group where they can defended themselves (very well) from masses who want them dead.

Yes, it made sense to those post-war Jews and to European countries that would otherwise have been tasked with the moral responsibility of taking them in - not that hot an idea for European Jewish survivors given what European non-Jews had done to them.

Even today you will find ancestral Jew-hate in Europe.

That's what people need to understand. Hamas say they want to kill every last jew.
It's no secret and they're not shy about it. (At least the Nazis were kind of embarrassed about it)

When someone says they want to kill you, and try several times and you fight back with superior ability, don't cry for the people that started it.

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Reply #83 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:59pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:56pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:49pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:38pm:

So we can agree whether dispersed around the world, or in one group Jews are hated and persecuted.

It makes sense they congregate in one group where they can defended themselves (very well) from masses who want them dead.

Yes, it made sense to those post-war Jews and to European countries that would otherwise have been tasked with the moral responsibility of taking them in - not that hot an idea for European Jewish survivors given what European non-Jews had done to them.

Even today you will find ancestral Jew-hate in Europe.

That's what people need to understand. Hamas say they want to kill every last jew.
It's no secret and they're not shy about it. (At least the Nazis were kind of embarrassed about it)

When someone says they want to kill you, and try several times and you fight back with superior ability, don't cry for the people that started it.

All European countries had a bash at murdering, or at least expelling, their Jewish communities at some point in their histories and none was embarrassed about it at the time.

Even the great protestant reformer, Martin Luther, had a lot to say about ridding Europe of Jews.

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Reply #84 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 8:02pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:59pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:56pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:49pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:38pm:

So we can agree whether dispersed around the world, or in one group Jews are hated and persecuted.

It makes sense they congregate in one group where they can defended themselves (very well) from masses who want them dead.

Yes, it made sense to those post-war Jews and to European countries that would otherwise have been tasked with the moral responsibility of taking them in - not that hot an idea for European Jewish survivors given what European non-Jews had done to them.

Even today you will find ancestral Jew-hate in Europe.

That's what people need to understand. Hamas say they want to kill every last jew.
It's no secret and they're not shy about it. (At least the Nazis were kind of embarrassed about it)

When someone says they want to kill you, and try several times and you fight back with superior ability, don't cry for the people that started it.

All European countries had a bash at murdering, or at least expelling, their Jewish communities at some point in their histories and none were embarrassed about it at the time.

Even the great protestant reformer, Martin Luther, had a lot to say about ridding Europe of Jews.

That's why the western lefty faux support for Palestine is just a long remembered itch to hate jews. They probably don't even know why.

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Reply #85 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 8:02pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:27pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:18pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:13pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 6:42pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 6:37pm:

Fact: Jews will live with Muslims but few Muslims want to live with Jews.

Jewish-Israelis generally do not like Arab-Israelis, even less Arabs in general. They don't particularly appreciate hearing Arabic spoken in Israel and definitely do not appreciate the Temple Mount being an Islamic holy site.

Stop editorialising.
Arabs are 20% of the population, 10% of parliament, earn proportional amount of masters degrees etc etc.

Show me the parallel of this for Jews in a Muslim country.

Oh another hilarious thing, Israeli arabs have more freedom of speech in Israel than in ANY ARAB COUNTRY.

Arab-Israelis only exist in Israel by an accident of location when Israel was established - it was not by design of those migrated Jews into Palestine.

And don't imagine that Orthodox Jews have given up on the idea of establishing the Third Temple.

Show me the parallel of this for Jews in a Muslim country.

Given Jews are covered by Israel's Law Of Return - which applies only to Jews, nearly all Jews in Muslim countries have migrated to Israel.

Nice effort at turd polishing. They were kicked out of middle eastern countries just after the holocaust.

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Reply #86 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 8:06pm

Frank wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:35pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:32pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:28pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:27pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:18pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:13pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 6:42pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 6:37pm:

Fact: Jews will live with Muslims but few Muslims want to live with Jews.

Jewish-Israelis generally do not like Arab-Israelis, even less Arabs in general. They don't particularly appreciate hearing Arabic spoken in Israel and definitely do not appreciate the Temple Mount being an Islamic holy site.

Stop editorialising.
Arabs are 20% of the population, 10% of parliament, earn proportional amount of masters degrees etc etc.

Show me the parallel of this for Jews in a Muslim country.

Oh another hilarious thing, Israeli arabs have more freedom of speech in Israel than in ANY ARAB COUNTRY.

Arab-Israelis only exist in Israel by an accident of location when Israel was established - it was not by design of those migrated Jews into Palestine.

And don't imagine that Orthodox Jews have given up on the idea of establishing the Third Temple.

Show me the parallel of this for Jews in a Muslim country.

Given Jews are covered by Israel's Law Of Return - which applies only to Jews, nearly all Jews in Muslim countries have migrated to Israel.

After expulsion and death threats

Sometimes, often, even.

But certainly for security reasons - particularly after 1948.

Of course, the whole reason for migration out of Europe becomming as urgent as it became, was not because of Muslim oppression, but because of European oppression, expulsions, pogroms and mass murders of Jews.

How many European countries can you name that did not discriminate, expel or murder Jews at some time in their history?

Denmark. Sweden. Norway. Holland.

Netherlands - Jews were persecuted for 'causing' the Black Death.

As for Denmark. Sweden and Norway - Scandinavia... Like an old woman's minge... everybody knows where it is, but nobody wants to go there... Seems the Jews thought so too.

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