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Question: Are Israell and better than Nazis?

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #90 - Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:04pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:00pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 7:59pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 7:52pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 7:49pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 7:46pm:
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The Germans and Italians during WW2 established their command centres and industrial war manufactory as close to civilians as possible in the expectation that the Allies would not bomb civilian residential areas


Is there a point to this or are you just going to keep deflecting from Israel's terrorism?

The point is, that the Germans and Italians did exactly what Hamas is doing and for exactly the same reasons.


I don't recall ever saying they didn't. 

So, to destroy German Nazism and Italian Fascism, the Allies did what they had to do, which included accepting civilian casualties,

Should Israel necessarily be held to a higher standard than the Allies?



Absolutely

Why?
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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #91 - Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:06pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:04pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:00pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 7:59pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 7:52pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 7:49pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 7:46pm:
Quote:
The Germans and Italians during WW2 established their command centres and industrial war manufactory as close to civilians as possible in the expectation that the Allies would not bomb civilian residential areas


Is there a point to this or are you just going to keep deflecting from Israel's terrorism?

The point is, that the Germans and Italians did exactly what Hamas is doing and for exactly the same reasons.


I don't recall ever saying they didn't. 

So, to destroy German Nazism and Italian Fascism, the Allies did what they had to do, which included accepting civilian casualties,

Should Israel necessarily be held to a higher standard than the Allies?



Absolutely

Why?


Because we now have the ability to be more selective. 
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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #92 - Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:06pm
 
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Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?


In general slightly - Today no.
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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #93 - Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:12pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:06pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:04pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:00pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 7:59pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 7:52pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 7:49pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 7:46pm:
Quote:
The Germans and Italians during WW2 established their command centres and industrial war manufactory as close to civilians as possible in the expectation that the Allies would not bomb civilian residential areas


Is there a point to this or are you just going to keep deflecting from Israel's terrorism?

The point is, that the Germans and Italians did exactly what Hamas is doing and for exactly the same reasons.


I don't recall ever saying they didn't. 

So, to destroy German Nazism and Italian Fascism, the Allies did what they had to do, which included accepting civilian casualties,

Should Israel necessarily be held to a higher standard than the Allies?



Absolutely

Why?


Because we know have the ability to be more selective. 

Unless you have a military background, I doubt you can support that.

From what I've heard/read (and intuited) about urban warfare, it's not possible to avoid civilian casualties in urban warfare. it's the toughest form of warfare... particularly when the soldier's target or the infrastructure targeted is force-shielded by civilians.

That was the tactic of the Germans and Italians in WW2... and it's the tactic of Hamas - all of them driven by ideologies that valued ideological outcomes above human life, including the lives of children.
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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #94 - Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:15pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 4:26pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 3:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 3:43pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 3:37pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 3:30pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 1:45pm:
Aussie has a final solution. I wonder if John and Greg and Karnal agree with it.


My final solution hasn't changed: stop murdering children.


Get your arse over there, take on Hamas fighters to get to the kids, ...


That's the job of the IDF.

If they don't know how to launch a defensive attack without murdering thousands of children, they shouldn't be a defence force.

Meanwhile, conservatives refuse to acknowledge and condemn the war crimes committed by Israel.

Sad.

To those raising the Palestinian flag,

Where were you when ISIS was launched and beheaded tens of thousands of Arabs in Iraq, Libya, and Syria in the name of Islam? Why didn’t you take to the streets and raise their flags? Why didn’t you condemn the terror and call for a ”ceasefire”?

Where were you when Arab dictators and terrorists killed hundreds of thousands of Arabs in Syria and Libya? Why didn’t you take to the streets and raise their flags? Why didn’t you condemn the terror and call for a ”ceasefire”?

Where were you in the last decade when Saudi Arabia, backed by 8 Arab countries, killed 400,000 Yemenis, my own people? I didn’t see any of you take to the streets or raise the Yemeni flag. I did not see any of you condemning the terror and calling for a ”ceasefire” while Arab countries were slaughtering my own people.

This must lead to some self-reflection.

When millions of Arabs are slaughtered by other Arabs, you say nothing.

But when 7 thousand of Arabs are killed by Jews defending their right to exist, you revolt, you get angry, you storm the streets in the East and the West, you raise the Palestinian flag, you condemn the terror, you call for a ceasefire, you turn the world upside down.

Why is that?

Why were you so silent then but SO LOUD now?

Can it be that you are finally raising a flag and creating chaos because you only hate that the perpetrators are Jews?

Because you obviously don't care when millions of Arabs are killed by other Arabs.

Can it be that you storming the streets is just you venting out your hatred towards Jews? The same hatred we learned in our mosques and schools?

You speak of ”numbers and proportionality.” But by the rules of proportionality, you should not be raising Palestinian flags.

Unless, there is another agenda at play: Jew-hatred. Or as I would call it: Hatred.
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yeah i think thats it  HATRED

its no coincidence the nihilistic left vibe with the palestinians


they are failures and nothing enrages a failure more then seeing someone else suceed.

donny in the white house with a hot wife makes them explode with hatred.



seeing the israelis develop a high tech economy whilst you use all your aid money on garbage and end up eating a bowl of dirt makes you explode with hatred.

i have told bobby many times to make sure he is doing some "prepping"

with the instability in russia and the ukraine and the ready availability of nukes in these places, a stones throw from iran, there is a chance (certainly higher then dying from covid) that these hateful hamas clowns set off a nuke.

its part of nihilism and being in a death cult.

if they do , there goes global oil networks, there goes food distribution in australia and bobby (along with adam bandt and dan andrews) will find themselves down at woolies in the dark trying to step thru the broken glass to get a can of baked beans.

and a 6 ft 2 sudanese apex gang menber will be there telling them thats not going to happen.

the truth is , the conservative farmers , we'll be fine
and the leftie intellectual inner city marshnallows are going to be screwed.

mothra will be there at woolies, along with gweggy and fisk and they will be wailing like palestinians women in front of a BBC camera crew

if you give off nothing but low vibration energy, the world descends into low vibration energy and you  will end up there yourself.

you reap as you sew, hopefully the lefties are aware of this concept



Hate, spitting rage, is the animating spirit of the left. They cultivate it. Farm it. That is the only high energy aspect of the lefty spirit. They have so much of it you and I simply cannot imagine the depth and intensity of it. Nobody with a long view of life - 'noble conservatives' - cannot fathom it because we live in an essentially fraternal, humane world.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #95 - Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:16pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:12pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:06pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:04pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:00pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 7:59pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 7:52pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 7:49pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 7:46pm:
Quote:
The Germans and Italians during WW2 established their command centres and industrial war manufactory as close to civilians as possible in the expectation that the Allies would not bomb civilian residential areas


Is there a point to this or are you just going to keep deflecting from Israel's terrorism?

The point is, that the Germans and Italians did exactly what Hamas is doing and for exactly the same reasons.


I don't recall ever saying they didn't. 

So, to destroy German Nazism and Italian Fascism, the Allies did what they had to do, which included accepting civilian casualties,

Should Israel necessarily be held to a higher standard than the Allies?



Absolutely

Why?


Because we know have the ability to be more selective. 

Unless you have a military background, I doubt you can support that.


Unless you're in the military,  I doubt you'd know either way
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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #96 - Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:22pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:15pm:
Hate, spitting rage, is the animating spirit of the left. They cultivate it. Farm it. That is the only high energy aspect of the lefty spirit. They have so much of it you and I simply cannot imagine the depth and intensity of it. Nobody with a long view of life - 'noble conservatives' - cannot fathom it because we live in an essentially fraternal, humane world.


Winston Churchill, a conservative, justified the plight of native peoples, as a consequence of colonisation, as the inevitable consequence of 'racial superiority'...

Doesn't sound noble, fraternal or humane.
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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #97 - Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:22pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:06pm:
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Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?


In general slightly - Today no.


The Nazis put Jews, retards, gays and political opponents in deaths camps.
Israel targets members of a genocidal death cult who hide behind women and children, and in your feeble mind, that's the same thing.

You're a Smith level retard.
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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #98 - Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:25pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:16pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:12pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:06pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:04pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:00pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 7:59pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 7:52pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 7:49pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 7:46pm:
Quote:
The Germans and Italians during WW2 established their command centres and industrial war manufactory as close to civilians as possible in the expectation that the Allies would not bomb civilian residential areas


Is there a point to this or are you just going to keep deflecting from Israel's terrorism?

The point is, that the Germans and Italians did exactly what Hamas is doing and for exactly the same reasons.


I don't recall ever saying they didn't. 

So, to destroy German Nazism and Italian Fascism, the Allies did what they had to do, which included accepting civilian casualties,

Should Israel necessarily be held to a higher standard than the Allies?



Absolutely

Why?


Because we know have the ability to be more selective. 

Unless you have a military background, I doubt you can support that.


Unless you're in the military,  I doubt you'd know either way

So you can't argue for a greater Israeli moral responsibility than the Allies in WW2 against the Italians, then.
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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #99 - Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:27pm
 

Has any conservative member here acknowledged Israel's war crimes yet?

If so, have they condemned them or do they continue to celebrate the death of thousands of innocent little children?

I'm curious.
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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #100 - Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:31pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:27pm:
Has any conservative member here acknowledged Israel's war crimes yet?

If so, have they condemned them or do they continue to celebrate the death of thousands of innocent little children?

I'm curious.

Crimes committed are determined by courts and tribunals.

Your obsession with kids has nothing to do with Israel and Hamas.
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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #101 - Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:32pm
 
Gordon wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:22pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:06pm:
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Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?


In general slightly - Today no.


The Nazis put Jews, retards, gays and political opponents in deaths camps.
Israel targets members of a genocidal death cult who hide behind women and children, and in your feeble mind, that's the same thing.

You're a Smith level retard.


Your a Gordon.
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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #102 - Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:34pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:31pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:27pm:
Has any conservative member here acknowledged Israel's war crimes yet?

If so, have they condemned them or do they continue to celebrate the death of thousands of innocent little children?

I'm curious.

Crimes committed are determined by courts and tribunals.

Your obsession with kids has nothing to do with Israel and Hamas.


Why do you celebrate and encourage the slaughter of children?

Is it a sexual fetish?

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #103 - Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:34pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:27pm:
Has any conservative member here acknowledged Israel's war crimes yet?

If so, have they condemned them or do they continue to celebrate the death of thousands of innocent little children?

I'm curious.


I see the sensible position is to condemn the atrocities of both sides.
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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #104 - Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:36pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:34pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:31pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 8:27pm:
Has any conservative member here acknowledged Israel's war crimes yet?

If so, have they condemned them or do they continue to celebrate the death of thousands of innocent little children?

I'm curious.

Crimes committed are determined by courts and tribunals.

Your obsession with kids has nothing to do with Israel and Hamas.


Why do you celebrate and encourage the slaughter of children?

Is it a sexual fetish?


I'd ask you that question.

Men without kids who can rant for pages about kids...
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