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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #105 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:38pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:34pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:27pm:

Has any conservative member here acknowledged Israel's war crimes yet?

If so, have they condemned them or do they continue to celebrate the death of thousands of innocent little children?

I'm curious.

Crimes committed are determined by courts and tribunals.

Your obsession with kids has nothing to do with Israel and Hamas.

Why do you celebrate and encourage the slaughter of children?

Is it a sexual fetish?

I'd ask you that question.

Men without kids who can rant for pages about kids...

And rape, don't forget the rape.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #106 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:38pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:27pm:

Has any conservative member here acknowledged Israel's war crimes yet?

If so, have they condemned them or do they continue to celebrate the death of thousands of innocent little children?

I'm curious.

I see the sensible position is to condemn the atrocities of both sides.

Indeed, which is exactly what I've done from day one (along with every other left winger here).

Strange how conservatives won't condemn Israel for slaughtering thousands of children.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #107 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:39pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:25pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:16pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:12pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:06pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:00pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:52pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:46pm:

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The Germans and Italians during WW2 established their command centres and industrial war manufactory as close to civilians as possible in the expectation that the Allies would not bomb civilian residential areas

Is there a point to this or are you just going to keep deflecting from Israel's terrorism?

The point is, that the Germans and Italians did exactly what Hamas is doing and for exactly the same reasons.

I don't recall ever saying they didn't.

So, to destroy German Nazism and Italian Fascism, the Allies did what they had to do, which included accepting civilian casualties,

Should Israel necessarily be held to a higher standard than the Allies?

Absolutely

Why?

Because we know have the ability to be more selective.

Unless you have a military background, I doubt you can support that.

Unless you're in the military, I doubt you'd know either way

So you can't argue for a greater Israeli moral responsibility than the Allies in WW2 against the Italians, then.

Sure I can. One doesn't need to be in the army to know about smart bombs, laser guided rockets, satellite targeting, heat sensors and a whole raft off other technology that didn't exist in 1940

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #108 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:39pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:34pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:27pm:

Has any conservative member here acknowledged Israel's war crimes yet?

If so, have they condemned them or do they continue to celebrate the death of thousands of innocent little children?

I'm curious.

Crimes committed are determined by courts and tribunals.

Your obsession with kids has nothing to do with Israel and Hamas.

Why do you celebrate and encourage the slaughter of children?

Is it a sexual fetish?

I'd ask you that question.

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No, you can't - I don't celebrate and encourage the slaughter of children.

You do.

So, why do you celebrate and encourage the slaughter of children?

Is it a sexual fetish?

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #109 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:42pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:27pm:

Has any conservative member here acknowledged Israel's war crimes yet?

If so, have they condemned them or do they continue to celebrate the death of thousands of innocent little children?

I'm curious.

Crimes committed are determined by courts and tribunals.

So unless the guy who stole from my business last week is found guilty in a court of law by a judge, he didn't steal from me? Cheesy

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #110 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:38pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:27pm:

Has any conservative member here acknowledged Israel's war crimes yet?

If so, have they condemned them or do they continue to celebrate the death of thousands of innocent little children?

I'm curious.

I see the sensible position is to condemn the atrocities of both sides.

Indeed, which is exactly what I've done from day one (along with every other left winger here).

Strange how conservatives won't condemn Israel for slaughtering thousands of children.

How do you get to decide who is left or not? Perhaps if you said "along with every other extreme left winger here" you could be forgiven.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #111 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:47pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:56pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:07pm:

It's not hamas dropping bombs on kids

Hamas have hit hospitals in Gaza and Israel with their rockets.
Hamas even fired a rocket that landed in the west bank.

Over 500 rockets fired by hamas have landed in Gaza.

Over 10,000 rockets have been fired into Israel by Hamas at a rate of one every 20 seconds they are still being fired today.

How much damage would those 10,000 rockets have done if Israel didn't create the Iron Dome to intercept them?

Go to Telegram Hamas live streamed their attack on civilians that website hasn't taken videos and pics down. Have a look at what Hamas did to kids you might even find a video where Israeli forensic pathologist said they had to DNA test babies to see which head belonged to which body. Hamas beheaded children.

Yes, hamas are terrorists. We all know that. But so is Israel

Israel aren't terrorists.

Israel haven't done any war crimes.

Hamas are terrorists and war criminals.

I forgot to add rape is a war crime Hamas are guilty of that as well.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #112 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:49pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:27pm:

Has any conservative member here acknowledged Israel's war crimes yet?

If so, have they condemned them or do they continue to celebrate the death of thousands of innocent little children?

I'm curious.

Crimes committed are determined by courts and tribunals.

Ah.

You're saying that when Hamas attacked Israel on October 7, it wasn't actually a war crime.

So, you condone the slaughter of children by the IDF AND you condone the horrendous attack on Israel by Hamas terrorists last month.

Interesting.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #113 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:50pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:39pm:

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So you can't argue for a greater Israeli moral responsibility than the Allies in WW2 against the Italians, then.

Sure I can. One doesn't need to be in the army to know about smart bombs, laser guided rockets, satellite targeting, heat sensors and a whole raft off other technology that didn't exist in 1940

That's exactly why you'd need a military background - to know how effective it is when in a battle in an urban environment - where the enemy is shielded by civilians.

What would you do if your armed enemy had a weapon aimed at you behind civilians... Would you sacrifice your life for the survival of those civilians?

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #114 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:50pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:56pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:07pm:

It's not hamas dropping bombs on kids

Hamas have hit hospitals in Gaza and Israel with their rockets.
Hamas even fired a rocket that landed in the west bank.

Over 500 rockets fired by hamas have landed in Gaza.

Over 10,000 rockets have been fired into Israel by Hamas at a rate of one every 20 seconds they are still being fired today.

How much damage would those 10,000 rockets have done if Israel didn't create the Iron Dome to intercept them?

Go to Telegram Hamas live streamed their attack on civilians that website hasn't taken videos and pics down. Have a look at what Hamas did to kids you might even find a video where Israeli forensic pathologist said they had to DNA test babies to see which head belonged to which body. Hamas beheaded children.

Yes, hamas are terrorists. We all know that. But so is Israel

Israel aren't terrorists.

Israel haven't done any war crimes.

Hamas are terrorists and war criminals.

I forgot to add rape is a war crime Hamas are guilty of that as well.

Donald Trump is a war criminal?

Surely the bone spurs will get him off the charge.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #115 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:51pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:56pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:07pm:

It's not hamas dropping bombs on kids

Hamas have hit hospitals in Gaza and Israel with their rockets.
Hamas even fired a rocket that landed in the west bank.

Over 500 rockets fired by hamas have landed in Gaza.

Over 10,000 rockets have been fired into Israel by Hamas at a rate of one every 20 seconds they are still being fired today.

How much damage would those 10,000 rockets have done if Israel didn't create the Iron Dome to intercept them?

Go to Telegram Hamas live streamed their attack on civilians that website hasn't taken videos and pics down. Have a look at what Hamas did to kids you might even find a video where Israeli forensic pathologist said they had to DNA test babies to see which head belonged to which body. Hamas beheaded children.

Yes, hamas are terrorists. We all know that. But so is Israel

Israel aren't terrorists.

Israel haven't done any war crimes.

Hamas are terrorists and war criminals.

I forgot to add rape is a war crime Hamas are guilty of that as well.

Israel are war criminals and they are terrorists. No amount of pretending otherwise will change that

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #116 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:51pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:42pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:27pm:

Has any conservative member here acknowledged Israel's war crimes yet?

If so, have they condemned them or do they continue to celebrate the death of thousands of innocent little children?

I'm curious.

Crimes committed are determined by courts and tribunals.

So unless the guy who stole from my business last week is found guilty in a court of law by a judge, he didn't steal from me? Cheesy

That's exactly how the judicial system works.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #117 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:53pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:56pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:07pm:

It's not hamas dropping bombs on kids

Hamas have hit hospitals in Gaza and Israel with their rockets.
Hamas even fired a rocket that landed in the west bank.

Over 500 rockets fired by hamas have landed in Gaza.

Over 10,000 rockets have been fired into Israel by Hamas at a rate of one every 20 seconds they are still being fired today.

How much damage would those 10,000 rockets have done if Israel didn't create the Iron Dome to intercept them?

Go to Telegram Hamas live streamed their attack on civilians that website hasn't taken videos and pics down. Have a look at what Hamas did to kids you might even find a video where Israeli forensic pathologist said they had to DNA test babies to see which head belonged to which body. Hamas beheaded children.

Yes, hamas are terrorists. We all know that. But so is Israel

Israel aren't terrorists.

Israel haven't done any war crimes.

Hamas are terrorists and war criminals.

But, but ... your fellow conservatives disagree: "Crimes committed are determined by courts and tribunals."
MeisterEckhart November 2, 2023

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #118 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:49pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:27pm:

Has any conservative member here acknowledged Israel's war crimes yet?

If so, have they condemned them or do they continue to celebrate the death of thousands of innocent little children?

I'm curious.

Crimes committed are determined by courts and tribunals.

Ah.

You're saying that when Hamas attacked Israel on October 7, it wasn't actually a war crime.

So, you condone the slaughter of children by the IDF AND you condone the horrendous attack on Israel by Hamas terrorists last month.

Interesting.

He's defending Hamas, people Roll Eyes

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #119 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:55pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:38pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:27pm:

Has any conservative member here acknowledged Israel's war crimes yet?

If so, have they condemned them or do they continue to celebrate the death of thousands of innocent little children?

I'm curious.

I see the sensible position is to condemn the atrocities of both sides.

Indeed, which is exactly what I've done from day one (along with every other left winger here).

Strange how conservatives won't condemn Israel for slaughtering thousands of children.

How do you get to decide who is left or not? Perhaps if you said "along with every other extreme left winger here" you could be forgiven.

I do not see any here that would be considered extreme left, most are moderate. Unlike the right where many if not most are considerably way out there.

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