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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #120 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:56pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:39pm:

So you can't argue for a greater Israeli moral responsibility than the Allies in WW2 against the Italians, then.

Sure I can. One doesn't need to be in the army to know about smart bombs, laser guided rockets, satellite targeting, heat sensors and a whole raft off other technology that didn't exist in 1940

That's exactly why you'd need a military background - to know how effective it is when in a battle in an urban environment - where the enemy is shielded by civilians.

What would you do if your armed enemy had a weapon aimed at you behind civilians... Would you sacrifice your life for the survival of those civilians?
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I'm sorry, but are you suggesting that unless hamas members agrees to be killed, Israel has no choice but to bomb kids? Cheesy

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Israel didn't need to bomb Argentina to get nazi's hiding amongst Argentina's population after WWII

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #121 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:59pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:49pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:27pm:

Has any conservative member here acknowledged Israel's war crimes yet?

If so, have they condemned them or do they continue to celebrate the death of thousands of innocent little children?

I'm curious.

Crimes committed are determined by courts and tribunals.

Ah.

You're saying that when Hamas attacked Israel on October 7, it wasn't actually a war crime.

So, you condone the slaughter of children by the IDF AND you condone the horrendous attack on Israel by Hamas terrorists last month.

Interesting.

Your obsession with children has nothing to do with their welfare in wartime.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #122 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:59pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:51pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:56pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:07pm:

It's not hamas dropping bombs on kids

Hamas have hit hospitals in Gaza and Israel with their rockets.
Hamas even fired a rocket that landed in the west bank.

Over 500 rockets fired by hamas have landed in Gaza.

Over 10,000 rockets have been fired into Israel by Hamas at a rate of one every 20 seconds they are still being fired today.

How much damage would those 10,000 rockets have done if Israel didn't create the Iron Dome to intercept them?

Go to Telegram Hamas live streamed their attack on civilians that website hasn't taken videos and pics down. Have a look at what Hamas did to kids you might even find a video where Israeli forensic pathologist said they had to DNA test babies to see which head belonged to which body. Hamas beheaded children.

Yes, hamas are terrorists. We all know that. But so is Israel

Israel aren't terrorists.

Israel haven't done any war crimes.

Hamas are terrorists and war criminals.

I forgot to add rape is a war crime Hamas are guilty of that as well.

Israel are war criminals and they are terrorists. No amount of pretending otherwise will change that

What are the war crimes you think they have done?

Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #123 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:00pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:49pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:27pm:

Has any conservative member here acknowledged Israel's war crimes yet?

If so, have they condemned them or do they continue to celebrate the death of thousands of innocent little children?

I'm curious.

Crimes committed are determined by courts and tribunals.

Ah.

You're saying that when Hamas attacked Israel on October 7, it wasn't actually a war crime.

So, you condone the slaughter of children by the IDF AND you condone the horrendous attack on Israel by Hamas terrorists last month.

Interesting.

Your obsession with children has nothing to do with their welfare in wartime.

You're defending the war crimes of both Israel and Hamas.

Disturbing.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #124 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:00pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:51pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:42pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:27pm:

Has any conservative member here acknowledged Israel's war crimes yet?

If so, have they condemned them or do they continue to celebrate the death of thousands of innocent little children?

I'm curious.

Crimes committed are determined by courts and tribunals.

So unless the guy who stole from my business last week is found guilty in a court of law by a judge, he didn't steal from me? Cheesy

Cheesy

That's exactly how the judicial system works.

No one mentioned the judicial system. A criminal is a criminal, not because some judge says he is, but because he committed a crime. That he might get away with it doesn't change what he did

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #125 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:02pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:51pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:56pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:07pm:

It's not hamas dropping bombs on kids

Hamas have hit hospitals in Gaza and Israel with their rockets.
Hamas even fired a rocket that landed in the west bank.

Over 500 rockets fired by hamas have landed in Gaza.

Over 10,000 rockets have been fired into Israel by Hamas at a rate of one every 20 seconds they are still being fired today.

How much damage would those 10,000 rockets have done if Israel didn't create the Iron Dome to intercept them?

Go to Telegram Hamas live streamed their attack on civilians that website hasn't taken videos and pics down. Have a look at what Hamas did to kids you might even find a video where Israeli forensic pathologist said they had to DNA test babies to see which head belonged to which body. Hamas beheaded children.

Yes, hamas are terrorists. We all know that. But so is Israel

Israel aren't terrorists.

Israel haven't done any war crimes.

Hamas are terrorists and war criminals.

I forgot to add rape is a war crime Hamas are guilty of that as well.

Israel are war criminals and they are terrorists. No amount of pretending otherwise will change that

What are the war crimes you think they have done?

Gee, bomb hospitals, refugee camps , schools, just for a start

Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #126 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:02pm

This puts it perfectly. Smith, Et Al. is a low IQ garden variety antisemite.

The murder of six million Jews and millions of others carried out by the Nazis and their collaborators was the largest recorded genocide in modern history. Absolutely no comparison can be made between the complex Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the atrocities committed by the Nazis against the Jews.

While one can criticize Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians, in contrast to the Holocaust, there is not now, nor has there been, a significant Israeli ideology, movement, policy or plan to exterminate the Palestinian population.

The Nazis’ “final solution” to the “Jewish problem” was the deliberate, systematic and mechanized extermination of European Jewry. Hitler’s final solution led to the calculated, premeditated murder of six million Jews and the destruction of thriving Jewish communities across Europe.

Israel says that its policies towards the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip are based on security concerns and the need to defend its population in the face of terrorist acts. But while these policies can certainly be scrutinized and criticized, they are in no way akin to the policies and actions of the Nazis and the Third Reich.

By comparing Israel to Nazis, some seek to label Israel as a singularly, uniquely evil state on earth, playing upon old antisemitic stereotypes that treat Jews as demonic and uniquely evil.

Moreover, it can be argued that those that make the comparison between the Jewish state and the Nazis and Hitler – who perpetrated the greatest and largest act of antisemitism in world history – have not chosen this comparison innocently or dispassionately. It is a charge that is purposefully directed at Jews in an effort to associate the victims of Nazi crimes with the Nazi perpetrators and serves to diminish the significance and uniqueness of the Holocaust.

To make such a comparison is antisemitic and constitutes blatant hostility toward Jews, Jewish history and the legitimacy of the Jewish State of Israel.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #127 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:04pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:00pm:

No one mentioned the judicial system. A criminal is a criminal, not because some judge says he is, but because he committed a crime. That he might get away with it doesn't change what he did

Are you that ignorant of the justice system?

A criminal is a criminal because the justice system determines he is - anything less is an allegation.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #128 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:08pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:02pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:51pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:56pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:07pm:

It's not hamas dropping bombs on kids

Hamas have hit hospitals in Gaza and Israel with their rockets.
Hamas even fired a rocket that landed in the west bank.

Over 500 rockets fired by hamas have landed in Gaza.

Over 10,000 rockets have been fired into Israel by Hamas at a rate of one every 20 seconds they are still being fired today.

How much damage would those 10,000 rockets have done if Israel didn't create the Iron Dome to intercept them?

Go to Telegram Hamas live streamed their attack on civilians that website hasn't taken videos and pics down. Have a look at what Hamas did to kids you might even find a video where Israeli forensic pathologist said they had to DNA test babies to see which head belonged to which body. Hamas beheaded children.

Yes, hamas are terrorists. We all know that. But so is Israel

Israel aren't terrorists.

Israel haven't done any war crimes.

Hamas are terrorists and war criminals.

I forgot to add rape is a war crime Hamas are guilty of that as well.

Israel are war criminals and they are terrorists. No amount of pretending otherwise will change that

What are the war crimes you think they have done?

Gee, bomb hospitals, refugee camps , schools, just for a start

It was Hamas who bombed the hospital in Gaza. Hamas have also hit hospitals in Israel.
Israel haven't bombed any hospitals.

What refugee camp Hamas have controlled Gaza for 17 years? Were the people in that alleged camp Palestinians living under a palestine government for 17 years?

Hamas have fired rockets from schools that makes them a legitimate target. Israel has video footage of everything they hit from the air and every rocket hamas fires.

If civilians help Hamas military that makes them a legitimate target.

Perhaps you should look up the actual legislation on war crimes you're showing everyone you're a clueless idiot.

Hamas have done multiple war crimes israel hasn't done any.

Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #129 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:11pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:56pm:

I'm sorry, but are you suggesting that unless hamas members agrees to be killed, Israel has no choice but to bomb kids? Cheesy

Cheesy

Israel didn't need to bomb Argentina to get nazi's hiding amongst Argentina's population after WWII

I'm saying that when your enemy has a weapon pointed at your head and it's a matter of him or you, what would you expect a soldier to do?

You need to read up on what Israel had to do to get Eichman out of Argentina.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #130 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:11pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:00pm:

No one mentioned the judicial system. A criminal is a criminal, not because some judge says he is, but because he committed a crime. That he might get away with it doesn't change what he did

Are you that ignorant of the justice system?

A criminal is a criminal because the justice system determines he is - anything less is an allegation.

No, a criminal is a criminal because of his actions. Allegations have nothing to do with it. The guy who stole from me is a theif. It matters not that he wasn't found guilty in a court of law, he still stole from me.

Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #131 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:14pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:56pm:

I'm sorry, but are you suggesting that unless hamas members agrees to be killed, Israel has no choice but to bomb kids? Cheesy

Cheesy

Israel didn't need to bomb Argentina to get nazi's hiding amongst Argentina's population after WWII

I'm saying that when your enemy has a weapon pointed at your head and it's a matter of him or you, what would you expect a soldier to do?

You need to read up on what Israel had to do to get Eichman out of Argentina.

A real soldier would shoot the enemy not his wife or kids.

And I'll tell you what they didn't have to do to get Eichmann, they didn't blow up thousands of Argentineans

Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #132 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:14pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:11pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:00pm:

No one mentioned the judicial system. A criminal is a criminal, not because some judge says he is, but because he committed a crime. That he might get away with it doesn't change what he did

Are you that ignorant of the justice system?

A criminal is a criminal because the justice system determines he is - anything less is an allegation.

No, a criminal is a criminal because of his actions. Allegations have nothing to do with it. The guy who stole from me is a theif. It matters not that he wasn't found guilty in a court of law, he still stole from me.

That's your story. When we submit to the authority of the state, we defer judgements of criminality to the state.

Didn't you know that?

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #133 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:16pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:11pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:00pm:

No one mentioned the judicial system. A criminal is a criminal, not because some judge says he is, but because he committed a crime. That he might get away with it doesn't change what he did

Are you that ignorant of the justice system?

A criminal is a criminal because the justice system determines he is - anything less is an allegation.

No, a criminal is a criminal because of his actions. Allegations have nothing to do with it. The guy who stole from me is a theif. It matters not that he wasn't found guilty in a court of law, he still stole from me.

That's your story. When we submit to the authority of the state, we defer judgements of criminality to the state.

Didn't you know that?

So if I steal your car and get away with it I'm not a theif Cheesy

Cheesy

Cheesy

Is there no level of stupidity you won't sink to in your attempt to defend Israel?

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #134 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:19pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:14pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:56pm:

I'm sorry, but are you suggesting that unless hamas members agrees to be killed, Israel has no choice but to bomb kids? Cheesy

Cheesy

Israel didn't need to bomb Argentina to get nazi's hiding amongst Argentina's population after WWII

I'm saying that when your enemy has a weapon pointed at your head and it's a matter of him or you, what would you expect a soldier to do?

You need to read up on what Israel had to do to get Eichman out of Argentina.

A real soldier would shoot the enemy not his wife or kids.

And I'll tell you what they didn't have to do to get Eichmann, they didn't blow up thousands of Argentineans

Have you used a weapon to protect your life? Accuracy is the least reliable skill. Why do you think rapid-fire weapons were invented?

Read up on Operation Finale about Eichmann's capture before posting.

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