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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #135 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:22pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:14pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:56pm:

I'm sorry, but are you suggesting that unless hamas members agrees to be killed, Israel has no choice but to bomb kids? Cheesy

Israel didn't need to bomb Argentina to get nazi's hiding amongst Argentina's population after WWII

I'm saying that when your enemy has a weapon pointed at your head and it's a matter of him or you, what would you expect a soldier to do?

You need to read up on what Israel had to do to get Eichman out of Argentina.

A real soldier would shoot the enemy not his wife or kids.

A real soldier doesn't hide behind his wife and kiddies and pretend to be a civilian, like the soldiers of Allah do.

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Reply #136 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:25pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:00pm:

No one mentioned the judicial system. A criminal is a criminal, not because some judge says he is, but because he committed a crime. That he might get away with it doesn't change what he did

Are you that ignorant of the justice system?

A criminal is a criminal because the justice system determines he is - anything less is an allegation.

Did Hamas commit a war crime on October 7?

Are the perpetrators of that cowardly attack terrorists?

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #137 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:26pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:14pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:56pm:

I'm sorry, but are you suggesting that unless hamas members agrees to be killed, Israel has no choice but to bomb kids? Cheesy

Israel didn't need to bomb Argentina to get nazi's hiding amongst Argentina's population after WWII

I'm saying that when your enemy has a weapon pointed at your head and it's a matter of him or you, what would you expect a soldier to do?

You need to read up on what Israel had to do to get Eichman out of Argentina.

A real soldier would shoot the enemy not his wife or kids.

And I'll tell you what they didn't have to do to get Eichmann, they didn't blow up thousands of Argentineans

Have you used a weapon to protect your life? ...

Protect your life?

Are the babies in Gaza attacking the IDF?

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #138 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:30pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:16pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:11pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:00pm:

No one mentioned the judicial system. A criminal is a criminal, not because some judge says he is, but because he committed a crime. That he might get away with it doesn't change what he did

Are you that ignorant of the justice system?

A criminal is a criminal because the justice system determines he is - anything less is an allegation.

No, a criminal is a criminal because of his actions. Allegations have nothing to do with it. The guy who stole from me is a theif. It matters not that he wasn't found guilty in a court of law, he still stole from me.

That's your story. When we submit to the authority of the state, we defer judgements of criminality to the state.

Didn't you know that?

So if I steal your car and get away with it I'm not a theif Cheesy

Is there no level of stupidity you won't sink to in your attempt to defend Israel?

if I say you've stolen my car, I've made an allegation against you. The justice system, having heard all the presented and provable facts to a court will determine if you have in fact stolen my car and, by that, you have committed a crime.

That's what it means to defer judgment to the state.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #139 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:31pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:25pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:00pm:

No one mentioned the judicial system. A criminal is a criminal, not because some judge says he is, but because he committed a crime. That he might get away with it doesn't change what he did

Are you that ignorant of the justice system?

A criminal is a criminal because the justice system determines he is - anything less is an allegation.

Did Hamas commit a war crime on October 7?

Are the perpetrators of that cowardly attack terrorists?

Well?

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #140 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:36pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:00pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:46pm:

If your enemy is hiding behind the skirts of civilians, you don't get a blank cheque to kill the civilians.

You find another way, or wait for a better opportunity.

The World is not going to accept wanton civilian deaths, on going. Israel might not give a stuff, but the World will.

You pinned a kid to a tree over a soft drink bottle thrown at a fugging stinking taxi.

Now tell us what you'd do if your relative had the 4 month old baby cut out of her belly, the feotus stabbed to death in front of her, then she was shot in the head and the rest of her kids shot.

Go on, tell us, kid pinner.

I'd want to belt the living sh

it

out of the person who did it...but I would not be belting the living sh

it

out of his Family.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #141 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:37pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:25pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:00pm:

No one mentioned the judicial system. A criminal is a criminal, not because some judge says he is, but because he committed a crime. That he might get away with it doesn't change what he did

Are you that ignorant of the justice system?

A criminal is a criminal because the justice system determines he is - anything less is an allegation.

Did Hamas commit a war crime on October 7?

Are the perpetrators of that cowardly attack terrorists?

Cat got your tongue, coward?

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #142 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:37pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:55pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:46pm:

If your enemy is hiding behind the skirts of civilians, you don't get a blank cheque to kill the civilians.

You find another way, and wait for a better opportunity.

While they continue to attack you from behind those skirts. If people that were out to kill my family hid behind the skirts of their women and kids, they'd all be toast.

So here is your chance Setanta to dazzle us with your wonderfulness.

I hear that Hamas has some military establishment right underneath a Hospital in Gaza. Do you bomb the sh

it

out of the Hospital full of innocent people to get to that military target?

Perhaps you bunker bust every building around it to cut the tunnels then use boots to clear the hospital itself. Of course the civilians in those building are now collateral damage but the hospital is intact. What would you do?

Nothing likely to kill innocent civilians in any building.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #143 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:25pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:00pm:

No one mentioned the judicial system. A criminal is a criminal, not because some judge says he is, but because he committed a crime. That he might get away with it doesn't change what he did

Are you that ignorant of the justice system?

A criminal is a criminal because the justice system determines he is - anything less is an allegation.

Did Hamas commit a war crime on October 7?

Are the perpetrators of that cowardly attack terrorists?

I'd say they did and they are.

Their actions have triggered a war, which they knew it would.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #144 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:44pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:25pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:00pm:

No one mentioned the judicial system. A criminal is a criminal, not because some judge says he is, but because he committed a crime. That he might get away with it doesn't change what he did

Are you that ignorant of the justice system?

A criminal is a criminal because the justice system determines he is - anything less is an allegation.

Did Hamas commit a war crime on October 7?

Are the perpetrators of that cowardly attack terrorists?

Cat got your tongue, coward?

Let your cat get your tongue when you feel the urge to rant about kids.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	A terrible anti Semitic topic displaying ignorance Reply #145 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 11:20pm I’m not at all surprised by the uneducated and ignorant person who saw fit to initiate it. Those of you who have joined in support of Frodo ought to be ashamed of yourselves.
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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #146 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 7:26am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:16pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:11pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:00pm:

No one mentioned the judicial system. A criminal is a criminal, not because some judge says he is, but because he committed a crime. That he might get away with it doesn't change what he did

Are you that ignorant of the justice system?

A criminal is a criminal because the justice system determines he is - anything less is an allegation.

No, a criminal is a criminal because of his actions. Allegations have nothing to do with it. The guy who stole from me is a theif. It matters not that he wasn't found guilty in a court of law, he still stole from me.

That's your story. When we submit to the authority of the state, we defer judgements of criminality to the state.

Didn't you know that?

So if I steal your car and get away with it I'm not a theif Cheesy

Is there no level of stupidity you won't sink to in your attempt to defend Israel?

if I say you've stolen my car, I've made an allegation against you. The justice system, having heard all the presented and provable facts to a court will determine if you have in fact stolen my car and, by that, you have committed a crime.

That's what it means to defer judgment to the state.

It's irrelevant what you say as is any judgement. If I stole your car I stole it and THAT makes me a thief. That you might deny it, or no one knows it was me does not mean it didn't happen or make me any less of a thief

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #147 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 7:55am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:51pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:42pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:27pm:

Has any conservative member here acknowledged Israel's war crimes yet?

If so, have they condemned them or do they continue to celebrate the death of thousands of innocent little children?

I'm curious.

Crimes committed are determined by courts and tribunals.

So unless the guy who stole from my business last week is found guilty in a court of law by a judge, he didn't steal from me? Cheesy

That's exactly how the judicial system works.

Unfortunately John Smith was only able to complete primary school. This is why he does not understand such simple things.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #148 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 7:56am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:11pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:00pm:

No one mentioned the judicial system. A criminal is a criminal, not because some judge says he is, but because he committed a crime. That he might get away with it doesn't change what he did

Are you that ignorant of the justice system?

A criminal is a criminal because the justice system determines he is - anything less is an allegation.

No, a criminal is a criminal because of his actions. Allegations have nothing to do with it. The guy who stole from me is a theif. It matters not that he wasn't found guilty in a court of law, he still stole from me.

That's your story. When we submit to the authority of the state, we defer judgements of criminality to the state.

Didn't you know that?

Refer to my previous post.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: A terrible anti Semitic topic displaying ignorance Reply #149 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 7:57am Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 11:20pm: I’m not at all surprised by the uneducated and ignorant person who saw fit to initiate it. Those of you who have joined in support of Frodo ought to be ashamed of yourselves.
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