MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:06am:


An excellent response.

Next time could you please dumb it down (for the benefit of the poster you addressed that response to)?

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:33am:


Are Israell and better than Nazis?

This is from the American defamation league which is a VERY left leaning organisation.
Only an extremely low IQ individual would draw parallels between Nazi Germany and Israel.

The murder of six million Jews and millions of others carried out by the Nazis and their collaborators was the largest recorded genocide in modern history. Absolutely no comparison can be made between the complex Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the atrocities committed by the Nazis against the Jews.

While one can criticize Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians, in contrast to the Holocaust, there is not now, nor has there been, a significant Israeli ideology, movement, policy or plan to exterminate the Palestinian population.

The Nazis’ “final solution” to the “Jewish problem” was the deliberate, systematic and mechanized extermination of European Jewry. Hitler’s final solution led to the calculated, premeditated murder of six million Jews and the destruction of thriving Jewish communities across Europe.

Israel says that its policies towards the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip are based on security concerns and the need to defend its population in the face of terrorist acts. But while these policies can certainly be scrutinized and criticized, they are in no way akin to the policies and actions of the Nazis and the Third Reich.

By comparing Israel to Nazis, some seek to label Israel as a singularly, uniquely evil state on earth, playing upon old antisemitic stereotypes that treat Jews as demonic and uniquely evil.

Moreover, it can be argued that those that make the comparison between the Jewish state and the Nazis and Hitler – who perpetrated the greatest and largest act of antisemitism in world history – have not chosen this comparison innocently or dispassionately. It is a charge that is purposefully directed at Jews in an effort to associate the victims of Nazi crimes with the Nazi perpetrators and serves to diminish the significance and uniqueness of the Holocaust.

To make such a comparison is antisemitic and constitutes blatant hostility toward Jews, Jewish history and the legitimacy of the Jewish State of Israel.


https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/allegation-israels-actions-against-pa...

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 1:14pm:


You have only posted this to get a reaction. I doubt even you believe it. 

How innocent are believing Muslims?  The tens and hundreds of thousands of Muslims on the streets on Western cities, and the millions more in Muslim countries, all full throatedly celebrating the massacre of Jews - how innocent are they? They are, after all, the sea in which Hamas, Isis and assoerted 'lone wolf' Muslim terrorist swim and carry on the work of Mohammed.




"Typified by the Muslim Brotherhood’s pledge in 1946 that it would “repeat the German massacres and destroy (the Jews) entirely”, and the Arab League’s proclamation soon thereafter of “a war of extermination which will eclipse the massacres of the Mongols”, Islamic exterminationism defined a mindset that both ensured war without end in the Middle East and became increasingly extreme with every ­calamitous Arab political failure and military fiasco.

Hamas, Hezbollah and the Iranian regime are merely that mindset’s latest incarnation. Trapped in a vision that admits of no compromise, they view Israel’s destruction and the massacre of its people as the crucial prelude to the coming of the Islamic millennium. Given the immensity of the stake, the human toll is entirely irrelevant: their own dead, they say, will be eternally rewarded in heaven; as for Israel’s innocent civilians, they simply deny any such people exist.

Obviously, fanaticism alone cannot make Hamas’s genocidal project succeed. There is, however, no prospect whatsoever of Hamas abandoning its exterminationist objective, which is now as firmly entrenched in the Islamist identity as eliminating the Jews was in that of the Nazis. Nor is there any reason to believe Hamas will, for so long as it survives, resile from its goal of making Israelis’ daily life a nightmare, in which the fear of death and ­destruction pervades every aspect of existence.

Today’s battle in the Middle East is therefore not a clash of ­civilisations; it is a war that has been developing for more than a century between civilisation and exterminationist barbarism. Unless and until that barbarism is comprehensively defeated, this world of ours will know no peace."

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/hamas-terror-embodies-a-century-a-ce...

It is not just Hamas that wants to exterminate the Jews. It is standard Islamic doctrine.

Frank wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:48am:


Exterminate the Jews? I’m sure I’ve heard that before.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:06am:



Shifting the goalposts are we? Now it's about being found guilty? That's not what you originally said, which John challenged you on.

You said:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:31pm:



So may i ask you, as to your initial statement, has Hamas been found guilty in a court of law?