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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #210 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:38am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:35am:

mothra wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:32am:

I didn't say "conscious ideation" ... i said "who said they were born without any ideas".

Can you?

What ideas were you born with?

Of course i don;t remember, god why do you always have to resort to the ridiculous to try to make your small-minded points?

We know that babies dream, respond to the actions and emotions of their mothers, respond to stimuli and that the centres for consciousness are developed by the third trimester.

You do the math.

What do they think about? Well that's the million dollar question but most likely they simply respond to stimuli.

You don't know much about this do you. No surprises, i'm pretty sure you're a virgin.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #211 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:39am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:37am:

mothra wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:34am:

What have i got to do with it?

Let me assure you, support for4 victims of crime presents itself without a court ruling.

What does that tell you?

It tells me that there are organisations that support women regarding their allegations regardless of requiring the testing of their allegation's veracity.

It doesn't tell you that even without a court ruling, a crime may have been committed for which the victim requires support?

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Reply #212 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:44am

mothra wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:34am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:32am:

mothra wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:30am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:28am:

mothra wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:26am:

LMAO!

No dude, she's been raped. She requires immediate support and care ... not support and care dependant on the outcome of a trial.

As you should no, a very small fraction of rapes result in a conviction for a number of very compelling reasons. They are still raped.

And if she has fabricated the allegation?

Walking and farting, blue hairs... keep practising.

Then no rape occurred.

Did you really need that spelled out for you?

And how do you come to that conclusion independently? Would that be because the woman cannot provide any evidence of rape?

What have i got to do with it?

Let me assure you, support for4 victims of crime presents itself without a court ruling.

What does that tell you?

It tells me that perpetrators themselves can access support in order to then use that support as evidence in order to further use the system against those they’ve victimised. It’s called systems abuse.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #216 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:52am

mothra wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:38am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:35am:

mothra wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:32am:

I didn't say "conscious ideation" ... i said "who said they were born without any ideas".

Can you?

What ideas were you born with?

Of course i don;t remember, god why do you always have to resort to the ridiculous to try to make your small-minded points?

We know that babies dream, respond to the actions and emotions of their mothers, respond to stimuli and that the centres for consciousness are developed by the third trimester.

You do the math.

What do they think about? Well that's the million dollar question but most likely they simply respond to stimuli.

You don't know much about this do you. No surprises, i'm pretty sure you're a virgin.

What you're referring to are instincts that we are all born with, such as tracking the mother's face and mimicking gestures - all high-order primates do that.

Ideas consist of complex thoughts essentially requiring language, a theory of mind, a sense of self, and a capacity for logic and reasoning from complex experience to form.

Infants cannot organise their minds to form ideas.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #217 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:56am

mothra wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:39am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:37am:

mothra wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:34am:

What have i got to do with it?

Let me assure you, support for4 victims of crime presents itself without a court ruling.

What does that tell you?

It tells me that there are organisations that support women regarding their allegations regardless of requiring the testing of their allegation's veracity.

It doesn't tell you that even without a court ruling, a crime may have been committed for which the victim requires support?

A crime may have been committed, eh!

So now you're acknowledging doubt.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #219 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 12:08pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 10:46am:

mothra wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 10:42am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 10:40am:

mothra wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 10:29am:

Shifting the goalposts are we? Now it's about being found guilty? That's not what you originally said, which John challenged you on.

You said:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:31pm:

[quote author=greggerypeccary link=1698894850/99#99 date=1698920839]
Has any conservative member here acknowledged Israel's war crimes yet?

If so, have they condemned them or do they continue to celebrate the death of thousands of innocent little children?

I'm curious.

Crimes committed are determined by courts and tribunals.

Your obsession with kids has nothing to do with Israel and Hamas.

You're not much of a reader.

John said:

John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 7:26am:

It's irrelevant what you say as is any judgement. If I stole your car I stole it and THAT makes me a thief. That you might deny it, or no one knows it was me does not mean it didn't happen or make me any less of a thief

And John is quite right. You've just failed at trying to be superior. Again.

Is he?

And if John is a serial confesser, falsely believes himself to be a thief, or is covering for a friend/relative, how would the justice system be able to independently confirm John's confession as true without being presented evidence independent of John's mind?

you're a bona fide nutjob. Who gives a shit what the justice system thinks. Its irrelevant to the crime being committed.

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #220 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 12:12pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 10:58am:

mothra wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 10:54am:

Then you would have committed the crime. Perhaps an investigation will lead a court to finding you guilty but your car is still cactus.

My god. This is the most ridiculous argument i've ever encountered i reckon.

You're not much of a thinker.

John would not be guilty of committing a crime regardless of whether he said he did if, in fact, I had destroyed the car without his assistance.

If i walk up to you and just punch you in the head, am I assaulting you?

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #221 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 12:14pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 12:08pm: