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Your perception of it is irrelevant.  The truth is what it is. You don't need to understand it for it to be a truth.

John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 7:33pm:


For Hamas it is.

John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 7:33pm:


And neither do you.

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:17pm:



Are you saying Israel are terrorists too?

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 1:14pm:



The people waving Palestinian flags in Sydney, London, Paris are savages and ignoramuses.
Palestine is the greatest political con trick in history, with the possible exception of socialism.
Israel is not the aggressor. It has never waged war against anyone. It has only ever defended itself from attack.
Whenever ‘Palestinian’ leaders have been offered their own country and peaceful coexistence they have chosen war.
Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 for peace. It got terrorism and war.
No matter how many concessions Israel makes, it gets terrorism and war.
Negotiating peace with this mentality is like trying to catch mist in a bucket. Anyone who can’t see that by now doesn’t want to see it.
If you use the words ‘genocide’ or ‘apartheid’ in regard to Israel, you know nothing and your opinions are worthless.
Two million Arabs live in Israel in complete equality. They comprise twenty percent of the population and serve in the military, the judiciary, and parliament.
“From the river to the sea” means no Israel and no Jews. It is a call for actual genocide, i.e. the elimination of an entire people.

Carry on.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5^th, 2023 at 7:04am:

You have nothing to add other than limp-wristed virtue signalling.

Whether or not you believe Israel has a right to exist, (which, in itself, is a ridiculous proposition - no state has a right to exist), the fact is it exists and is never going to be driven into the sea.

No state does nothing when its citizens are attacked nor does the maths on proportionality - In the same situation, the US toppled 2 regimes, invaded both their countries and effectively occupied them for 20 years, not to mention elevated internal and world security responses to a greater extent than what it had done in WW2. Russia's fear of losing its influence in Ukraine to the West (and thereby its buffer against NATO) has triggered a major war which is supported by the vast majority of Russians.

No war in history has ever left civilians unharmed but usually leaves more of them dead than enemy combatants.

However, the question still remains: How should Israel prosecute this war, in a land that is the home to three of the world's great religions, against an enemy that has buried itself metres deep under civilians, like rats... And the answer isn't just 'don't kill kids' - leave that as the only response to what you tell the kids in trans story hours.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5^th, 2023 at 7:04am:



you must hate obama


obamas war in yemen

In the days, months and years that followed, it became apparent that U.S. military support for the Saudis and Emiratis was much more substantial than stated, and unwavering despite mounting evidence of war crimes committed by the Coalition. Under Obama, the United States supplied arms to the coalition, helped identify bomb targets and provided mid-air refueling of Saudi and UAE warplanes. But the United States also provided political cover for the war, shielding Saudi Arabia from scrutiny at the United Nations and persisently proclaiming the strength of the U.S.-Saudi alliance.



Obama’s support persisted as millions more in Yemen faced hunger as a result of the blockade, and photographs of children’s emaciated bodies began to surface. It continued even after hospitals — including those operated by Médecins Sans Frontières — were repeatedly bombed despite prior knowledge of their coordinates. It continued despite large-scale bombings that caused mass civilian casualties, including the Hajjah market airstrike that killed 119 people in March 2016, and the October 2016 bombing that killed 140 mourners attending a funeral in Sana’a. The Obama administration’s support also continued when evidence surfaced that the Saudis and Emiratis were working alongside America’s foremost enemy, al Qaeda.

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 7:23am:


Correct.