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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12614 Gender:	Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis? Reply #45 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 6:54pm It's easy to condemn foreigners when they're faced with the consequences of responses to existential threats, until you realise that your own people, throughout their history, have faced the same consequences of the same responses to the same existential threats.
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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #46 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:00pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 4:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 1:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 1:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 1:35pm:

Your poll question makes no sense - use English grammar.

Question: Are Israell and better than Nazis? Undecided

Thats FD being a dick

Edit it you dickhead. Roll Eyes

FMD you are a moron. FD's changed it you cretin, my thread title shows 'Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?' Thats a direct copy/paste from the poll title I have on my screen now but for some reason it looks different on the page. FD is playing silly buggers because he cannot debate the topic

You as the originator can still edit it. tsk tsk Roll Eyes

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #47 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:03pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 4:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 1:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 1:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 1:35pm:

Your poll question makes no sense - use English grammar.

Question: Are Israell and better than Nazis? Undecided

Thats FD being a dick

Edit it you dickhead. Roll Eyes

FMD you are a moron. FD's changed it you cretin, my thread title shows 'Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?' Thats a direct copy/paste from the poll title I have on my screen now but for some reason it looks different on the page. FD is playing silly buggers because he cannot debate the topic

You as the originator can still edit it. tsk tsk Roll Eyes

Are you telling Mimo he's not a victim? How dare you!

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #48 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:04pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 4:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 1:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 1:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 1:35pm:

Your poll question makes no sense - use English grammar.

Question: Are Israell and better than Nazis? Undecided

Thats FD being a dick

Edit it you dickhead. Roll Eyes

FMD you are a moron. FD's changed it you cretin, my thread title shows 'Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?' Thats a direct copy/paste from the poll title I have on my screen now but for some reason it looks different on the page. FD is playing silly buggers because he cannot debate the topic

You as the originator can still edit it. tsk tsk Roll Eyes

Are you telling Mimo he's not a victim? How dare you!

He learnt victimhood from Mothra and Monk.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #49 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:04pm

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 5:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 4:36pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 2:45pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 1:14pm:

Are Israel, given the last three weeks of systemic destruction of everything and everyone Palestinian, any better than the Nazis they've spent the last 70 yrs crying about?

I say no. The only difference is they are using bombs where as the Nazis used gas.

Hamas brought this war upon the Palestinian people....Now they want to negotiate whilst holding innocent people hostage....Hamas needs to be defeated and the Islamic world needs to reject extremism but it won't....Israel has every right to defend itself against terrorism....Comparing Israel to the Nazis is quite disgusting John!!!

Huh

I have no problem with bombing Hamas. But bombing innocent men women anbd children under the guise of defending against Hamas is bullshit. You don't think they should be compared to nazi's , I do. They told the civilians to head south if they didn't want to get bombed, then they bombed the area the Palestinians evacuated to.

If that's not trying to exterminate them nothing is.

Israel should be held to account John....However you cannot negotiate with terrorists and Israel must dismantle Hamas....Israel needs to be careful or the Middle East could erupt???

Sad

Killing almost 4000 kids plus the other family members doesn't eliminate terrorism, it merely creates future terrorists

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #50 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:06pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 5:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 4:36pm:

I have no problem with bombing Hamas. But bombing innocent men women anbd children under the guise of defending against Hamas is bullshit. You don't think they should be compared to nazi's , I do. They told the civilians to head south if they didn't want to get bombed, then they bombed the area the Palestinians evacuated to.

If that's not trying to exterminate them nothing is.

As a person of Italian descent, I'm guessing you'd appreciate that the only way to dislodge the Italian fascists, and Il Duce, from power during WW2, was to attack Fascist forces, and risk, and cause, civilian deaths on the Italian peninsula.

We're not in 1940.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #51 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:07pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 5:24pm:

One thing that we must keep paramount in our minds with regard to uber-religious zealots like Hamas, is that the deaths of children is not a tragedy as it is with us non-zealots - for them, it's an honour as both the zealots and the children are guaranteed by Allah a place and eternal life in Paradise.

It's not hamas dropping bombs on kids

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #52 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:08pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:06pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 5:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 4:36pm:

I have no problem with bombing Hamas. But bombing innocent men women anbd children under the guise of defending against Hamas is bullshit. You don't think they should be compared to nazi's , I do. They told the civilians to head south if they didn't want to get bombed, then they bombed the area the Palestinians evacuated to.

If that's not trying to exterminate them nothing is.

As a person of Italian descent, I'm guessing you'd appreciate that the only way to dislodge the Italian fascists, and Il Duce, from power during WW2, was to attack Fascist forces, and risk, and cause, civilian deaths on the Italian peninsula.

We're not in 1940.

You don't seriously believe that 83 years changes the context of moral choices, surely.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #53 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:11pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 4:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 1:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 1:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 1:35pm:

Your poll question makes no sense - use English grammar.

Question: Are Israell and better than Nazis? Undecided

Thats FD being a dick

Edit it you dickhead. Roll Eyes

FMD you are a moron. FD's changed it you cretin, my thread title shows 'Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?' Thats a direct copy/paste from the poll title I have on my screen now but for some reason it looks different on the page. FD is playing silly buggers because he cannot debate the topic

You as the originator can still edit it. tsk tsk Roll Eyes

Christ on a stick you're a dead set moron. There's nothing to edit when I open it, it reads as it's supposed to.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #54 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:11pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:06pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 5:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 4:36pm:

I have no problem with bombing Hamas. But bombing innocent men women anbd children under the guise of defending against Hamas is bullshit. You don't think they should be compared to nazi's , I do. They told the civilians to head south if they didn't want to get bombed, then they bombed the area the Palestinians evacuated to.

If that's not trying to exterminate them nothing is.

As a person of Italian descent, I'm guessing you'd appreciate that the only way to dislodge the Italian fascists, and Il Duce, from power during WW2, was to attack Fascist forces, and risk, and cause, civilian deaths on the Italian peninsula.

We're not in 1940.

You don't seriously believe that 83 years changes the context of moral choices, surely.

No, but it does change the realms of possibilities.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #55 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:11pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:07pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 5:24pm:

One thing that we must keep paramount in our minds with regard to uber-religious zealots like Hamas, is that the deaths of children is not a tragedy as it is with us non-zealots - for them, it's an honour as both the zealots and the children are guaranteed by Allah a place and eternal life in Paradise.

It's not hamas dropping bombs on kids

Hamas are using civilians as shields and obstacles to IDF victory, as the Taliban did with the US and allies in Afghanistan.

Not all cultures value children's lives above religious zeal.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #56 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:16pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:07pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 5:24pm:

One thing that we must keep paramount in our minds with regard to uber-religious zealots like Hamas, is that the deaths of children is not a tragedy as it is with us non-zealots - for them, it's an honour as both the zealots and the children are guaranteed by Allah a place and eternal life in Paradise.

It's not hamas dropping bombs on kids

Hamas are using civilians as shields and obstacles to IDF victory, as the Taliban did with the US and allies in Afghanistan.

Not all cultures value children's lives above religious zeal.

So if some murderous dickhead held some school kids in Sydney hostage you'd be OK with bombing the school to kill him. What the bugger is wrong with you people? Israel knows who to target, and they have the ability to get them. It'll take longer sure, and it won't result in killing innocent bystanders. For some reason, they can't have that. They seem determined to kill as many innocent people as possible

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #57 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:20pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 4:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 1:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 1:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 1:35pm:

Your poll question makes no sense - use English grammar.

Question: Are Israell and better than Nazis? Undecided

Thats FD being a dick

Edit it you dickhead. Roll Eyes

FMD you are a moron. FD's changed it you cretin, my thread title shows 'Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?' Thats a direct copy/paste from the poll title I have on my screen now but for some reason it looks different on the page. FD is playing silly buggers because he cannot debate the topic

You as the originator can still edit it. tsk tsk Roll Eyes

Christ on a stick you're a dead set moron. There's nothing to edit when I open it, it reads as it's supposed to.

Seriously, you're the moron, as per usual, you made the poll you can edit it. Calling others morons at this stage of your victimhood is not a good look.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #58 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:21pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:20pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 4:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 1:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 1:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 1:35pm:

Your poll question makes no sense - use English grammar.

Question: Are Israell and better than Nazis? Undecided

Thats FD being a dick

Edit it you dickhead. Roll Eyes

FMD you are a moron. FD's changed it you cretin, my thread title shows 'Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?' Thats a direct copy/paste from the poll title I have on my screen now but for some reason it looks different on the page. FD is playing silly buggers because he cannot debate the topic

You as the originator can still edit it. tsk tsk Roll Eyes

Christ on a stick you're a dead set moron. There's nothing to edit when I open it, it reads as it's supposed to.

Seriously, you're the moron, as per usual, you made the poll you can edit it. Calling others morons at this stage of your victimhood is not a good look.

Go have another beer choochoo

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #59 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:21pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:11pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:06pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 5:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 4:36pm:

I have no problem with bombing Hamas. But bombing innocent men women anbd children under the guise of defending against Hamas is bullshit. You don't think they should be compared to nazi's , I do. They told the civilians to head south if they didn't want to get bombed, then they bombed the area the Palestinians evacuated to.

If that's not trying to exterminate them nothing is.

As a person of Italian descent, I'm guessing you'd appreciate that the only way to dislodge the Italian fascists, and Il Duce, from power during WW2, was to attack Fascist forces, and risk, and cause, civilian deaths on the Italian peninsula.

We're not in 1940.

You don't seriously believe that 83 years changes the context of moral choices, surely.

No, but it does change the realms of possibilities.

Does it? How?

The Allies invaded the Italian peninsula knowing that civilian casualties were certain.

How could the IDF do any better a job at minimising civilian deaths than the Allies did, bearing in mind that there were many soldiers of Italian descent in the Allied forces?

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