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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74740 Gender:	Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis? Reply #75 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:51pm Aussie wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:46pm: If your enemy is hiding behind the skirts of civilians, you don't get a blank cheque to kill the civilians. You find another way, or wait for a better opportunity. Exactly
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Reply #76 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:52pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:46pm:

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The Germans and Italians during WW2 established their command centres and industrial war manufactory as close to civilians as possible in the expectation that the Allies would not bomb civilian residential areas

Is there a point to this or are you just going to keep deflecting from Israel's terrorism?

The point is, that the Germans and Italians did exactly what Hamas is doing and for exactly the same reasons.

I don't recall ever saying they didn't.

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Reply #77 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:53pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:07pm:

It's not hamas dropping bombs on kids

Hamas have hit hospitals in Gaza and Israel with their rockets.
Hamas even fired a rocket that landed in the west bank.

Over 500 rockets fired by hamas have landed in Gaza.

Over 10,000 rockets have been fired into Israel by Hamas at a rate of one every 20 seconds they are still being fired today.

How much damage would those 10,000 rockets have done if Israel didn't create the Iron Dome to intercept them?

Go to Telegram Hamas live streamed their attack on civilians that website hasn't taken videos and pics down. Have a look at what Hamas did to kids you might even find a video where Israeli forensic pathologist said they had to DNA test babies to see which head belonged to which body. Hamas beheaded children.

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Reply #78 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:53pm

Aussie wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:46pm:

If your enemy is hiding behind the skirts of civilians, you don't get a blank cheque to kill the civilians.

You find another way, or wait for a better opportunity.

The World is not going to accept wanton civilian deaths, on going. Hamas might not give a stuff, but the World will.

You didn't make that point about the Hamas pogrom on 7 Oct.
Why?

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Reply #79 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:54pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:46pm:

If your enemy is hiding behind the skirts of civilians, you don't get a blank cheque to kill the civilians.

You find another way, and wait for a better opportunity.

While they continue to attack you from behind those skirts. If people that were out to kill my family hid behind the skirts of their women and kids, they'd all be toast.

Yes I'm sure they'd be quivering in their boots at the thought of an old alcoholic hippy flapping his arms at them Cheesy

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #81 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:55pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:46pm:

If your enemy is hiding behind the skirts of civilians, you don't get a blank cheque to kill the civilians.

You find another way, and wait for a better opportunity.

While they continue to attack you from behind those skirts. If people that were out to kill my family hid behind the skirts of their women and kids, they'd all be toast.

So here is your chance Setanta to dazzle us with your wonderfulness.

I hear that Hamas has some military establishment right underneath a Hospital in Gaza. Do you bomb the sh

it

out of the Hospital full of innocent people to get to that military target?

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #82 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:56pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:07pm:

It's not hamas dropping bombs on kids

Hamas have hit hospitals in Gaza and Israel with their rockets.
Hamas even fired a rocket that landed in the west bank.

Over 500 rockets fired by hamas have landed in Gaza.

Over 10,000 rockets have been fired into Israel by Hamas at a rate of one every 20 seconds they are still being fired today.

How much damage would those 10,000 rockets have done if Israel didn't create the Iron Dome to intercept them?

Go to Telegram Hamas live streamed their attack on civilians that website hasn't taken videos and pics down. Have a look at what Hamas did to kids you might even find a video where Israeli forensic pathologist said they had to DNA test babies to see which head belonged to which body. Hamas beheaded children.

Yes, hamas are terrorists. We all know that. But so is Israel

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #83 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:59pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:56pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:07pm:

It's not hamas dropping bombs on kids

Hamas have hit hospitals in Gaza and Israel with their rockets.
Hamas even fired a rocket that landed in the west bank.

Over 500 rockets fired by hamas have landed in Gaza.

Over 10,000 rockets have been fired into Israel by Hamas at a rate of one every 20 seconds they are still being fired today.

How much damage would those 10,000 rockets have done if Israel didn't create the Iron Dome to intercept them?

Go to Telegram Hamas live streamed their attack on civilians that website hasn't taken videos and pics down. Have a look at what Hamas did to kids you might even find a video where Israeli forensic pathologist said they had to DNA test babies to see which head belonged to which body. Hamas beheaded children.

Yes, hamas are terrorists. We all know that. But so is Israel

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But so is Israel

Does look to be correct.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #84 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:59pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:52pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:46pm:

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The Germans and Italians during WW2 established their command centres and industrial war manufactory as close to civilians as possible in the expectation that the Allies would not bomb civilian residential areas

Is there a point to this or are you just going to keep deflecting from Israel's terrorism?

The point is, that the Germans and Italians did exactly what Hamas is doing and for exactly the same reasons.

I don't recall ever saying they didn't.

So, to destroy German Nazism and Italian Fascism, the Allies did what they had to do, which included accepting civilian casualties.

Should Israel necessarily be held to a higher standard than the Allies?

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #85 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:00pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:52pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:46pm:

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The Germans and Italians during WW2 established their command centres and industrial war manufactory as close to civilians as possible in the expectation that the Allies would not bomb civilian residential areas

Is there a point to this or are you just going to keep deflecting from Israel's terrorism?

The point is, that the Germans and Italians did exactly what Hamas is doing and for exactly the same reasons.

I don't recall ever saying they didn't.

So, to destroy German Nazism and Italian Fascism, the Allies did what they had to do, which included accepting civilian casualties,

Should Israel necessarily be held to a higher standard than the Allies?

Absolutely

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #86 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:00pm

Aussie wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:46pm:

If your enemy is hiding behind the skirts of civilians, you don't get a blank cheque to kill the civilians.

You find another way, or wait for a better opportunity.

The World is not going to accept wanton civilian deaths, on going. Israel might not give a stuff, but the World will.

You pinned a kid to a tree over a soft drink bottle thrown at a fugging stinking taxi.

Now tell us what you'd do if your relative had the 4 month old baby cut out of her belly, the feotus stabbed to death in front of her, then she was shot in the head and the rest of her kids shot.

Go on, tell us, kid pinner.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #87 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:01pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:46pm:

If your enemy is hiding behind the skirts of civilians, you don't get a blank cheque to kill the civilians.

You find another way, and wait for a better opportunity.

While they continue to attack you from behind those skirts. If people that were out to kill my family hid behind the skirts of their women and kids, they'd all be toast.

They have killed about 8,800 of those children and skirts. There were under 13 Hamas members behind them. If only what you said were close to true. The numbers clearly show that your statment is not correct.

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #88 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:02pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:56pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:07pm:

It's not hamas dropping bombs on kids

Hamas have hit hospitals in Gaza and Israel with their rockets.
Hamas even fired a rocket that landed in the west bank.

Over 500 rockets fired by hamas have landed in Gaza.

Over 10,000 rockets have been fired into Israel by Hamas at a rate of one every 20 seconds they are still being fired today.

How much damage would those 10,000 rockets have done if Israel didn't create the Iron Dome to intercept them?

Go to Telegram Hamas live streamed their attack on civilians that website hasn't taken videos and pics down. Have a look at what Hamas did to kids you might even find a video where Israeli forensic pathologist said they had to DNA test babies to see which head belonged to which body. Hamas beheaded children.

Yes, hamas are terrorists. We all know that. But so is Israel

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But so is Israel

Does look to be correct.

Of course it is . So far apart from stupidly pretending I'm saying things I've never said, they haven't managed to put up much of a counter argument

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Re: Are the Israelis any better than the Nazis?
Reply #89 - Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 8:04pm

Aussie wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:55pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 7:46pm:

If your enemy is hiding behind the skirts of civilians, you don't get a blank cheque to kill the civilians.

You find another way, and wait for a better opportunity.

While they continue to attack you from behind those skirts. If people that were out to kill my family hid behind the skirts of their women and kids, they'd all be toast.

So here is your chance Setanta to dazzle us with your wonderfulness.

I hear that Hamas has some military establishment right underneath a Hospital in Gaza. Do you bomb the sh

it

out of the Hospital full of innocent people to get to that military target?

Perhaps you bunker bust every building around it to cut the tunnels then use boots to clear the hospital itself. Of course the civilians in those building are now collateral damage but the hospital is intact. What would you do?

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