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Reply #15 - Nov 7^th, 2023 at 12:08pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 12:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 7:52am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 7:43am:

Bobby - Hamas is hiding amongst civilians. They have bases under hospitals.

This is not like WW1 where there are 2 opposing sides staring at each other across an area called no man’s land.

I know Lisa,
how would you feel if it was your house that was hit with a 500 pound bomb?
What is the excuse? -

"ohh a Hamas member was on a 2 way radio in your street
so we thought we'd flatten the whole street -
sorry about your house"

Bobby

How would you like it if Hamas was based under your house? Would you stay there? Of course not. You’d use a little common sense and go live with friends/relatives. Elsewhere.

I know - I'd be angry with both Hamas and Israel.

Sometimes in life you can be the nicest person
but tragedy comes your way through the fault of others.

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Reply #16 - Nov 7^th, 2023 at 12:12pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 12:08pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 12:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 7:52am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 7:43am:

Bobby - Hamas is hiding amongst civilians. They have bases under hospitals.

This is not like WW1 where there are 2 opposing sides staring at each other across an area called no man’s land.

I know Lisa,
how would you feel if it was your house that was hit with a 500 pound bomb?
What is the excuse? -

"ohh a Hamas member was on a 2 way radio in your street
so we thought we'd flatten the whole street -
sorry about your house"

Bobby

How would you like it if Hamas was based under your house? Would you stay there? Of course not. You’d use a little common sense and go live with friends/relatives. Elsewhere.

I know - I'd be angry with both Hamas and Israel.

Sometimes in life you can be the nicest person
but tragedy comes your way through the fault of others.

So you’d be too scared to stick around yes? You’d move. Of course you’d move. Why? Hamas aka your own home grown terrorist Palestinian organisation is in effect using YOU AND YOUR HOME as a shield to hide behind. You are in effect being abused by your OWN fellow countrymen.

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Reply #17 - Nov 7^th, 2023 at 12:19pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 7:52am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 7:43am:

Bobby - Hamas is hiding amongst civilians. They have bases under hospitals.

This is not like WW1 where there are 2 opposing sides staring at each other across an area called no man’s land.

I know Lisa,
how would you feel if it was your house that was hit with a 500 pound bomb?
What is the excuse? -

"ohh a Hamas member was on a 2 way radio in your street
so we thought we'd flatten the whole street -
sorry about your house"

bobby, you shouldnt watch the footage

did you know after 9/11 studies of people showed that those who watched more then 20 hrs of footage had a higher rate of PTSD then people who were actually in the towers and survived.

your brain cant distinguish

i dont watch gaza
i dont watch car accidents at daylesford
none of it.

stop seeing yourself as a human

see yourself as a party or a house

YOU have control of who gets in and who doesnt

dont let debbie downers into the party. rats and snakes dont get into the house.

you have a duty to yourself to keep the bad stuff out .

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Reply #18 - Nov 7^th, 2023 at 12:23pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 12:12pm:

So you’d be too scared to stick around yes? You’d move. Of course you’d move. Why? Hamas aka your own home grown terrorist Palestinian organisation is in effect using YOU AND YOUR HOME as a shield to hide behind. You are in effect being abused by your OWN fellow countrymen.

I would have done anything to get out of Gaza itself.

It reminds me of the beautiful city of Mariupol in Ukraine.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/28/mariupol-before-and-after-updated-...

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46% of the city’s building were damaged or destroyed in the siege,
according to one estimate. In a city that was once home to more than 400,000,
the UN estimates that up to 90% of its multi-storey residential buildings
have been damaged or destroyed.

If I was living there I would have thought.
Why can't they take their bloody war out to the farmlands? -
Why destroy this whole beautiful city?

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Reply #19 - Nov 7^th, 2023 at 12:24pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 12:19pm:

bobby, you shouldnt watch the footage

did you know after 9/11 studies of people showed that those who watched more then 20 hrs of footage had a higher rate of PTSD then people who were actually in the towers and survived.

your brain cant distinguish

i dont watch gaza
i dont watch car accidents at daylesford
none of it.

stop seeing yourself as a human

see yourself as a party or a house

YOU have control of who gets in and who doesnt

dont let debbie downers into the party. rats and snakes dont get into the house.

you have a duty to yourself to keep the bad stuff out .

You have a point.
I could never understand the senseless loss of live and total destruction of war.

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Reply #20 - Nov 7^th, 2023 at 12:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 12:24pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 12:19pm:

bobby, you shouldnt watch the footage

did you know after 9/11 studies of people showed that those who watched more then 20 hrs of footage had a higher rate of PTSD then people who were actually in the towers and survived.

your brain cant distinguish

i dont watch gaza
i dont watch car accidents at daylesford
none of it.

stop seeing yourself as a human

see yourself as a party or a house

YOU have control of who gets in and who doesnt

dont let debbie downers into the party. rats and snakes dont get into the house.

you have a duty to yourself to keep the bad stuff out .

You have a point.
I could never understand the senseless loss of live and total destruction of war.

i watched a few shows on ill treatment of factory animals
didnt sleep well for a month

now you can use that to motivate you to take action (never buy woolies chickens or pork) but after that , further watching is insane

helpless animals distress me

i imagine helpless gazans distress some viewers

answer

dont watch it

use it as motivation to do something positive.

maybe find a member of the apex gang and tell him how much you admire his joggers.
tell him you have a hedge that needs trimming and you will pay him 100 bucks to come around with his machete

find the win/win.

the media are using the gazans as unpaid soap opera stars in a real live action realitv show,

if the entire population of the world refused to watch, cnn and deuthce vella and the bbc go home and hamas go back to herding their goats.

attention is cash
dont add more gas to the fire

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Reply #21 - Nov 7^th, 2023 at 12:50pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 12:23pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 12:12pm:

So you’d be too scared to stick around yes? You’d move. Of course you’d move. Why? Hamas aka your own home grown terrorist Palestinian organisation is in effect using YOU AND YOUR HOME as a shield to hide behind. You are in effect being abused by your OWN fellow countrymen.

I would have done anything to get out of Gaza itself.

It reminds me of the beautiful city of Mariupol in Ukraine.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/28/mariupol-before-and-after-updated-...

Quote:

46% of the city’s building were damaged or destroyed in the siege,
according to one estimate. In a city that was once home to more than 400,000,
the UN estimates that up to 90% of its multi-storey residential buildings
have been damaged or destroyed.

If I was living there I would have thought.
Why can't they take their bloody war out to the farmlands? -
Why destroy this whole beautiful city?

This morning while I was plugging in my chores for the day I kept thinking to myself ... if only we women could be in charge. I bet we could sort things out better ... and faster too. War is senseless. What does it achieve?

It then occurred to me that war is also a wonderful opportunity to make sh1tloads of money IF you’re into weapons production/distribution and/or if you hold shares in enterprises which specialise in these areas.

It’s seriously depressing really. I want nothing more than to wake up tomorrow morning and read that this war is over. 😔😩🥺

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Reply #22 - Nov 7^th, 2023 at 12:55pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 12:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 12:23pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 12:12pm:

So you’d be too scared to stick around yes? You’d move. Of course you’d move. Why? Hamas aka your own home grown terrorist Palestinian organisation is in effect using YOU AND YOUR HOME as a shield to hide behind. You are in effect being abused by your OWN fellow countrymen.

I would have done anything to get out of Gaza itself.

It reminds me of the beautiful city of Mariupol in Ukraine.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/28/mariupol-before-and-after-updated-...

Quote:

46% of the city’s building were damaged or destroyed in the siege,
according to one estimate. In a city that was once home to more than 400,000,
the UN estimates that up to 90% of its multi-storey residential buildings
have been damaged or destroyed.

If I was living there I would have thought.
Why can't they take their bloody war out to the farmlands? -
Why destroy this whole beautiful city?

This morning while I was plugging in my chores for the day I kept thinking to myself ... if only we women could be in charge. I bet we could sort things out better ... and faster too. War is senseless. What does it achieve?

It then occurred to me that war is also a wonderful opportunity to make sh1tloads of money IF you’re into weapons production/distribution and/or if you hold shares in enterprises which specialise in these areas.

It’s seriously depressing really. I want nothing more than to wake up tomorrow morning and read that this war is over. 😔😩🥺

It's very depressing. Cry

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Reply #24 - Nov 7^th, 2023 at 1:07pm

Frank wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 7:52am:

Aussie wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 9:48pm:

Often enough, someone comes up with a telling point which highlights an issue so well.

This is one such gem.

(If you watched Media Watch tonight you would have seen it as I did.)

If Hamas was positioned in Israel, would the IDF be attacking it with the same lack of care for civilian deaths as is the case with Hamas in Gaza?

Absurd, stupid nonsense. Not surprisingly you think it somehow clever or telling, Aarssie.

Would the IDF set up its artillery, command posts, munition depots etc in the basement of schools, hospitals, apartment buildings? Of course it wouldn't.
And if it did, would Hamas not target them? Of course it would target them.

were you under the impression that Hamas actually has military infrastructure? Cheesy

They're terrorists, not a military.

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #25 - Nov 7^th, 2023 at 2:04pm

https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-11-06-23...

More than 10,000 people have been killed in Gaza

since Israel launched its military offensive a month ago,
the Palestinian Ministry of Health in Ramallah said,
drawing from sources in the Hamas-controlled enclave.
Meanwhile, the UN chief warned

Gaza is "becoming a graveyard for children."

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Reply #26 - Nov 7^th, 2023 at 3:48pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 2:04pm:

https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-11-06-23...

More than 10,000 people have been killed in Gaza

.............
Meanwhile, the UN chief warned

Gaza is "becoming a graveyard for children."

bobby,

If that is true, then [in its war with Israelis],
Hamas [aka all followers of ISLAM in 'palestine'] are meeting its >> DECLARED << [ISLAMIC] military objectives.

i.e.
Hamas is successfully fertilising the land of 'palestine' with THE BLOOD of their own children,
so that Israelis can grow and harvest, rich, red, tasty tomatoes.

bobby,

Please DO NOT BE OFFENDED by this statement, above.

That is NOT my claim, this is NOT my assertion.

That, is the assertion of the most holy warriors of ISLAM [aka the followers of ISLAM in 'palestine'].
[.....aka HAMAS, militants, who are presently, safely, hiding in tunnels, hundreds of feet below the surface of Gaza.]

Allah wants the children of all moslems [followers of ISLAM in 'palestine'], to die, and to spill their blood onto the land of 'palestine'.

.......so that Israelis can harvest nice bunches, of red, tomatoes.

.

AS PER this direct declaration, BY the followers of ISLAM [aka, moslems] in 'palestine'........

Quote:

"Our children are our glory and honor,
they were created to be fertilizer for the land of Palestine,
and for our pure land to be saturated with their blood."

"Moderate" Palestinian Authority TV: Palestinian children created to fertilize the land with their blood
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/02/moderate-palestinian-authority-tv-palestinian-...
2023 live link...... https://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/02/moderate-palestinian-authority-tv-palestinian...

cited on OzPol here......
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1621945743/7#7

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #27 - Nov 7^th, 2023 at 5:08pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 12:55pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 12:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 12:23pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 12:12pm:

So you’d be too scared to stick around yes? You’d move. Of course you’d move. Why? Hamas aka your own home grown terrorist Palestinian organisation is in effect using YOU AND YOUR HOME as a shield to hide behind. You are in effect being abused by your OWN fellow countrymen.

I would have done anything to get out of Gaza itself.

It reminds me of the beautiful city of Mariupol in Ukraine.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/28/mariupol-before-and-after-updated-...

Quote:

46% of the city’s building were damaged or destroyed in the siege,
according to one estimate. In a city that was once home to more than 400,000,
the UN estimates that up to 90% of its multi-storey residential buildings
have been damaged or destroyed.

If I was living there I would have thought.
Why can't they take their bloody war out to the farmlands? -
Why destroy this whole beautiful city?

This morning while I was plugging in my chores for the day I kept thinking to myself ... if only we women could be in charge. I bet we could sort things out better ... and faster too. War is senseless. What does it achieve?

It then occurred to me that war is also a wonderful opportunity to make sh1tloads of money IF you’re into weapons production/distribution and/or if you hold shares in enterprises which specialise in these areas.

It’s seriously depressing really. I want nothing more than to wake up tomorrow morning and read that this war is over. 😔😩🥺

It's very depressing. Cry

I agree. It is so sad to see so many people on both sides died. And the worst thing is that this is not the first time, nor will it be the last time. It will go on and on forever. Growing up, I sometimes look at the areas around Middle East - in Jerusalem. This place is meant to be the most sacred place for three of the largest major religions on Earth. And yet... so much blood shed, so much tears have stained the soils. Any future archeologist would think this place is cursed.

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Reply #28 - Nov 7^th, 2023 at 5:15pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 1:07pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 7:52am:

Aussie wrote on Nov 6^th, 2023 at 9:48pm:

Often enough, someone comes up with a telling point which highlights an issue so well.

This is one such gem.

(If you watched Media Watch tonight you would have seen it as I did.)

If Hamas was positioned in Israel, would the IDF be attacking it with the same lack of care for civilian deaths as is the case with Hamas in Gaza?

Absurd, stupid nonsense. Not surprisingly you think it somehow clever or telling, Aarssie.

Would the IDF set up its artillery, command posts, munition depots etc in the basement of schools, hospitals, apartment buildings? Of course it wouldn't.
And if it did, would Hamas not target them? Of course it would target them.

were you under the impression that Hamas actually has military infrastructure? Cheesy

They're terrorists, not a military.

And plus... by bombing all the civilian infrastructures, Hamas will have no shortages of new recruits.

I once watched an interview on youtube somewhere but I cant find it anymore. Where a reporter sat down with a member of Hamas. The reporter asked him: is it because of religion? The terrorist shook his head. And replied: "No, nothing to do with religion. My whole family: my parents, my brothers and my sisters were all killed by Israel. And if I did not join Hamas, I would have died from starvation like many other boys. I have no hope for future. All I have is hatred and revenge. And when I die, I will be with my family."

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Reply #29 - Nov 7^th, 2023 at 6:13pm

tickleandrose wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 5:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 12:55pm:

It's very depressing. Cry

I agree. It is so sad to see so many people on both sides died. And the worst thing is that this is not the first time, nor will it be the last time. It will go on and on forever. Growing up, I sometimes looks at the areas around Middle East - in Jerusalem. This place is meant to be the most sacred place for three of the largest major religions on Earth. And yet... so much blood shed, so much tears have stained the soils. Any future archeologist would think this place is cursed.

It's supposed to be a sacred place of peace and prayer -

instead it's a place full of crimes like mass murder.

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