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Reply #90 - Nov 8th, 2023 at 9:59pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 9:57pm:
Confirmed by the UN from two independent sources. If you added the numbers killed that could be confirmed by independent sources the numbers would probably quadruple.  They were killed in most cases because the idf are terrorists.

The UN, eh! Independent sources!

What were the circumstances that got them killed?
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Reply #91 - Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:01pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 9:42pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 9:38pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 9:24pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 9:21pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 9:18pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 9:14pm:
The Jews weren't the only people some nutjob has tried to exterminate over the centuries . But they're the only ones who think it entitles them to do the exterminating. 
I have no problem with Israel defending itself.  They can go after hamas all they want. Kill them all, they deserve it. But there are tens of thousands of innocent people stuck in the middle of all this. People just trying to get on with their lives,   raise their families,
watch their children grow etc .  For Israel to indiscriminately target these innocents for their blood-lust makes them no different to any other terrorist.

How many Italian civilians were killed by the Allies to get rid of Il Duce and his Fascists?

Civilian casualties are a certainty in war, not a possiblity.


You already tried that argument and lost.  Don't waste my time repeating that drivel

This is where your dumb c~ntery shows up. You're like an old bint.

There are no special circumstances in war where civilians do not take the brunt of the fighting.


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There are no special circumstances in war where civilians do not take the brunt of the fighting.


So if you turn that around the other way the casualties caused by Hamas are justified the same way ?

I don't believe that and neither do you.

Hamas targeted civilians, not the IDF and committed atrocities on them to ensure Israel would reel in uncontrollable rage against them, thereby ensuring and maximising retaliation.

Hamas wanted total war. They got one.

Name a war where civilians don't die in numbers usually greater than soldiers.


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Hamas targeted civilians, not the IDF


Israel have been targeting civilians not Hamas ?

The first 6000 deaths resulted in 13 Hamas casualties. The math clearly show that it is not possible to get these numbers by Targeting Hamas in most cases.
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Reply #92 - Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:08pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:01pm:
Israel have been targeting civilians not Hamas ?

The first 6000 deaths resulted in 13 Hamas casualties. The math clearly show that it is not possible to get these numbers by Targeting Hamas in most cases.

'Resulted in 13 Hamas casualties' and you know this because?

'The math clearly shows', eh! How much is stuck up your arse?

'In most cases', eh! Added that in as a cover!

'Not possible to get these numbers'!! Are you playing at Military Strategist for our entertainment or yours?

Name a war where civilian casualties did not outnumber many times over the number of soldiers killed.
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Reply #93 - Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:08pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:01pm:
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Hamas targeted civilians, not the IDF


Israel have been targeting civilians not Hamas ?

The first 6000 deaths resulted in 13 Hamas casualties. The math clearly show that it is not possible to get these numbers by Targeting Hamas in most cases.


The IDF have lost about 35 since they went into Gaza. It's clear Hamas have killed more Israeli civilians than IDF.

Where did you get 13 Hamas deaths did you pluck that from your arse?

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Hamas rockets have now hit Israel’s Barzilai hospital in Ashkelon 3 times in the last month.

How much coverage have you seen about it?

https://twitter.com/AGHamilton29/status/1722014207313379501



Hamas rockets hit that Hospital in Gaza. The fake news were quick to blame Israel for that without fact checking they have since backtracked and agreed Hamas rocket from Palestinian Islamic Jihad was reponsible.
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Reply #94 - Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:10pm
 
Do these people look like IDF?

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Reply #95 - Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:11pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 9:59pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 9:57pm:
Confirmed by the UN from two independent sources. If you added the numbers killed that could be confirmed by independent sources the numbers would probably quadruple.  They were killed in most cases because the idf are terrorists.

The UN, eh! Independent sources!

What were the circumstances that got them killed?


You want me to list the circumstances for 6000 cases? What are you stupid? If you think you're onto something you look it up. Or ask your grandfather.
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Reply #96 - Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:11pm
 
Hamas kids.

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Reply #97 - Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:12pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:11pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 9:59pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 9:57pm:
Confirmed by the UN from two independent sources. If you added the numbers killed that could be confirmed by independent sources the numbers would probably quadruple.  They were killed in most cases because the idf are terrorists.

The UN, eh! Independent sources!

What were the circumstances that got them killed?


You want me to list the circumstances for 6000 cases? What are you stupid? If you think you're onto something you look it up. Or ask your grandfather.

So you grabbed a headline and pulled the backstory out of your arse... Are you a blue hairs?
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Reply #98 - Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:14pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:10pm:
Do these people look like IDF?


Who took the photo?

Who are the people?

What are the circumstances in which this photo was taken?

Or doesn't it matter? Is it all just war porn to you?
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Reply #99 - Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:14pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:12pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:11pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 9:59pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 9:57pm:
Confirmed by the UN from two independent sources. If you added the numbers killed that could be confirmed by independent sources the numbers would probably quadruple.  They were killed in most cases because the idf are terrorists.

The UN, eh! Independent sources!

What were the circumstances that got them killed?


You want me to list the circumstances for 6000 cases? What are you stupid? If you think you're onto something you look it up. Or ask your grandfather.

So you grabbed a headline and pulled the backstory out of your arse... Are you a blue hairs?


Grin

I've previously put up the link to the UN  report. It's time you went to play with the cars on the road,  you're out of your depth.
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Reply #100 - Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:16pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:14pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:12pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:11pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 9:59pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 9:57pm:
Confirmed by the UN from two independent sources. If you added the numbers killed that could be confirmed by independent sources the numbers would probably quadruple.  They were killed in most cases because the idf are terrorists.

The UN, eh! Independent sources!

What were the circumstances that got them killed?


You want me to list the circumstances for 6000 cases? What are you stupid? If you think you're onto something you look it up. Or ask your grandfather.

So you grabbed a headline and pulled the backstory out of your arse... Are you a blue hairs?


Grin

I've previously put up the link to the UN  report. It's time you went to play with the cars on the road,  you're out of your depth.

Did you read it? Or did you google it five minutes ago?
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Reply #101 - Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:28pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:14pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:10pm:
Do these people look like IDF?


Who took the photo?

Who are the people?

What are the circumstances in which this photo was taken?

Or doesn't it matter? Is it all just war porn to you?


The photos come from video Hamas took when they killed these Israelis on Oct 7th. A few Allahu Akbars were said.

Video is available on websites like Telegram

Should we exclude the Israeli civilian deaths that started this war when Hamas broke the ceasefire that was in place from the last war?

What about the 260 civilian deaths from the music festival should we ignore those deaths?


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Reply #102 - Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:31pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:28pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:14pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 8th, 2023 at 10:10pm:
Do these people look like IDF?


Who took the photo?

Who are the people?

What are the circumstances in which this photo was taken?

Or doesn't it matter? Is it all just war porn to you?


The photos come from video Hamas took when they killed these Israelis on Oct 7th. A few Allahu Akbars were said.

Video is available on websites like Telegram

Should we exclude the Israeli civilian deaths that started this war when Hamas broke the ceasefire that was in place from the last war?

What about the 260 civilian deaths from the music festival should we ignore those deaths?



Yes, point taken.

Hamas did not engage the IDF. They invaded Israel to kill as many unarmed civilians to maximise their kill rate before they were taken out.

Turns out they were likely more successful than they'd calculated.
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Reply #103 - Nov 8th, 2023 at 11:18pm
 
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Reports from West #Darfur received today unveil that 773 African civilians including mostly teenagers, but women and elderly as well, have been massacred by the Jihadi #Janjaweed in the #Geneina area. Reports talks about hundreds burned and many detained and brutalized on their way for exodus. The Janjaweed are allies to a network of militias in the Middle East and North Africa that includes #Hamas and #Hezbollah. Voices from Darfur are urging the US and Europe, as well as the Arab League to intervene at once.

https://twitter.com/WalidPhares/status/1721684021262823436



Where is the outage from BLM or anyone on these victims of Islamic Jihad?

Picture shows dead men the Jihadis were following the example of their prophet in capturing women for sex slavery or to be sold into marriage.

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(1)Chapter: Permissibility of raiding the Kuffar, who have been reached with the call of Islam, without giving prior warning.

Ibn 'Aun reported:

I wrote to Nafi' inquiring from him whether it was necessary to extend (to the disbelievers) an invitation to accept (Islam) before meeting them in fight. He wrote (in reply) to me that it was necessary in the early days of Islam. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) made a raid upon Banu Mustaliq while they were unaware and their cattle were having a drink at the water. He killed those who fought and imprisoned others. On that very day, he captured Juwairiya bint al-Harith. Nafi' said that this tradition was related to him by Abdullah b. Umar who (himself) was among the raiding troops.

https://sunnah.com/muslim:1730a


Juwairiya became one of Muhammads wives, he captured her.

You can almost read these Jihadis like a book.

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Reply #104 - Nov 9th, 2023 at 9:04pm
 
Jew hatred is bizarre. It's so irrational and intense. I can perhaps understand some Palestinians' hatred of Jews, but you see people who have nothing to do with the conflict going batshit crazy with rage.
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