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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47423 Gender:	Re: I CAN'T BREATH ! Reply #15 - Nov 15^th, 2023 at 11:51am You just 'disregarded' Floyd's provocation and initiation of his own demise. The Cops 'had to react' as would a Citizen too. You obviously have no experience dealing with dangerous Zombies.
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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10982 armidale Gender:	Re: I CAN'T BREATH ! Reply #16 - Nov 15^th, 2023 at 12:05pm He was a zombie lying on his stomach. Handcuffed he was helpless. "I have had to do the same in restraining Psyche Patients". Very interesting. You're drawn to psycho people and you're dangerous.
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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5470 Gender:	Re: I CAN'T BREATH ! Reply #17 - Nov 15^th, 2023 at 12:08pm thread full of schizos
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58163 Here Gender:	Re: I CAN'T BREATH ! Reply #18 - Nov 15^th, 2023 at 12:09pm Jasin wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 11:51am: You just 'disregarded' Floyd's provocation and initiation of his own demise. The Cops 'had to react' as would a Citizen too. You obviously have no experience dealing with dangerous Zombies. We all deal with you every day ?
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58163 Here Gender:	Re: I CAN'T BREATH ! Reply #19 - Nov 15^th, 2023 at 12:11pm Watch the video and try to believe your own lying eyes. The murder of George Floyd is not in question.
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Reply #20 - Nov 15^th, 2023 at 1:11pm

chimera wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 12:05pm:

He was a zombie lying on his stomach. Handcuffed he was helpless.
"I have had to do the same in restraining Psyche Patients".
Very interesting. You're drawn to psycho people and you're dangerous.

AND WHO PUT HIM THERE?

He was not being arrested. He was asked questions. He freaked and became erratic, non-compliant, aggressive and resisted all physical restraint when it was called upon by his own doing.
Where was his 'Personal Responsibility'?
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?&q=personal+responsibility+by...
Floyd 'instigated and initiated' the conflict.
The Cops were 'forced by his actions and behaviour' to act accordingly.

Chauvin was shafted for doing his job.

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Reply #21 - Nov 15^th, 2023 at 1:17pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 11:51am:

You just 'disregarded' Floyd's provocation and initiation of his own demise. The Cops 'had to react' as would a Citizen too. You obviously have no experience dealing with dangerous Zombies.

I most certainly do, dear, and I do not dismiss the po-lice's role or function. That has nothing to do with murdering a suspect in cold blood.

The po-lice were not trying to resuscitate George Floyd or prevent him harming himself or others.

Zombies should be dealt with accordingly, by shooting them with a silver bullet or laser gun, depending upon the genre of fiction in which one writes.

George Floyd was a human being with human rights, as per Panther's beloved Constitution. The po-lice were judged to be murderers, not zombie killers.

You?

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Reply #22 - Nov 15^th, 2023 at 2:39pm

The difference between Humans and Animals is that Animals can never become 'Monsters' like what Humans can.
Floyd was a Monster and disliked by many in the neighbourhood because of his crimes.
He had become a dangerous junkie Zombie as all junkie Zombies are.

Now lets say he was a Hamas Terrorist and the cop was an Israeli Soldier...

The fact still remains that you are all STILL dismissing his initial actions and behaviours (he was not being arrested) that warrant Police to take action.
If he had complied and did everything expected, they Cops would have thanked him for his help and walked away.

HE BASICALLY CAUSED HIS OWN DEATH upon many levels.

Just like Hamas Terrorists caused the retaliation of Israel.

Or do you disagree?

Floyd started it, the Cops ended it.
Simple.

Now if you look at many clips of what Cops have to deal with over in America - Floyd was given quite a leeway before he had to be restrained. Most usually attack Cops straight away and Cops get killed for being too 'passive'.

So once again.

Where was George Floyd's PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY?

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10982 armidale Gender:	Re: I CAN'T BREATH ! Reply #23 - Nov 15^th, 2023 at 3:21pm Jasin wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 1:11pm: and resisted all physical restraint when it was called upon by his own doing. You just acknowledged he was on his stomach. Police have handcuffs which are used often. Is that to keep a person steady while he's being murdered?
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Reply #24 - Nov 15^th, 2023 at 5:02pm

chimera wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 3:21pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 1:11pm:

and resisted all physical restraint when it was called upon by his own doing.

You just acknowledged he was on his stomach. Police have handcuffs which are used often. Is that to keep a person steady while he's being murdered?

No no, he caused his own death by lying on the footpath and pressing his neck into Derek Chauvin's knee.

Most common, it happens all the time. I think you'll find JaSin's a tad miffed because he's tinted.

You get that.

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Reply #25 - Nov 15^th, 2023 at 5:05pm

chimera wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 3:21pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 1:11pm:

and resisted all physical restraint when it was called upon by his own doing.

You just acknowledged he was on his stomach. Police have handcuffs which are used often. Is that to keep a person steady while he's being murdered?

Why did they have to put him on his stomach?
If he didn't react the way he did and took 'personal responsibility' for his actions and behaviour - they would have thanked him for their enquiry (he wasn't being arrested) and walked away.
Act like a Criminal, get treated like a Criminal.

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Reply #26 - Nov 15^th, 2023 at 5:07pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 5:02pm:

chimera wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 3:21pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 1:11pm:

and resisted all physical restraint when it was called upon by his own doing.

You just acknowledged he was on his stomach. Police have handcuffs which are used often. Is that to keep a person steady while he's being murdered?

No no, he caused his own death by lying on the footpath and pressing his neck into Derek Chauvin's knee.

Most common, it happens all the time. I think you'll find JaSin's a tad miffed because he's tinted.

You get that.

You 'don't want to get' - that Floyd put himself in that circumstance by not taking 'personal responsibility' for his behaviour and actions.
Again, read previous post.

You obviously don't want to accept that 'he' started his own demise from the get go.
Personal Responsibility - you do get that, don't you?

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Reply #27 - Nov 15^th, 2023 at 5:07pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 5:05pm:

chimera wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 3:21pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 1:11pm:

and resisted all physical restraint when it was called upon by his own doing.

You just acknowledged he was on his stomach. Police have handcuffs which are used often. Is that to keep a person steady while he's being murdered?

Why did they have to put him on his stomach?
If he didn't react the way he did and took 'personal responsibility' for his actions and behaviour - they would have thanked him for their enquiry (he wasn't being arrested) and walked away.
Act like a Criminal, get treated like a Criminal.

We don't murder criminal suspects in the country, JaSin.

What do you people do?

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Reply #28 - Nov 15^th, 2023 at 5:12pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 5:07pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 5:05pm:

chimera wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 3:21pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 1:11pm:

and resisted all physical restraint when it was called upon by his own doing.

You just acknowledged he was on his stomach. Police have handcuffs which are used often. Is that to keep a person steady while he's being murdered?

Why did they have to put him on his stomach?
If he didn't react the way he did and took 'personal responsibility' for his actions and behaviour - they would have thanked him for their enquiry (he wasn't being arrested) and walked away.
Act like a Criminal, get treated like a Criminal.

We don't murder criminal suspects in the country, JaSin.

What do you people do?

If I thought my life was in danger by a dangerously paranoid junkie Zombie, I wouldn't hesitate in keeping a knee on him (which is done all around the world as a restraint). Not my fault his Fentanyl is making it hard for him to breath and giving him a cardiac arrest which is what he had.

Again. Those two Australian Cops released the knee of a man 'actually being arrested', when he cried that he couldn't breath and they nearly lost their lives when he grabbed one of their guns and fired off!

Now wouldn't you say, that's more than justification of not taking chances with the criminally insane, the insane and the dangerously insane Zombie junkies?

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Reply #29 - Nov 15^th, 2023 at 5:24pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 5:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 5:07pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 5:05pm:

chimera wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 3:21pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 1:11pm:

and resisted all physical restraint when it was called upon by his own doing.

You just acknowledged he was on his stomach. Police have handcuffs which are used often. Is that to keep a person steady while he's being murdered?

Why did they have to put him on his stomach?
If he didn't react the way he did and took 'personal responsibility' for his actions and behaviour - they would have thanked him for their enquiry (he wasn't being arrested) and walked away.
Act like a Criminal, get treated like a Criminal.

We don't murder criminal suspects in the country, JaSin.

What do you people do?

If I thought my life was in danger by a dangerously paranoid junkie Zombie, I wouldn't hesitate in keeping a knee on him (which is done all around the world as a restraint). Not my fault his Fentanyl is making it hard for him to breath and giving him a cardiac arrest which is what he had.

Again. Those two Australian Cops released the knee of a man 'actually being arrested', when he cried that he couldn't breath and they nearly lost their lives when he grabbed one of their guns and fired off!

Now wouldn't you say, that's more than justification of not taking chances with the criminally insane, the insane and the dangerously insane Zombie junkies?

Sorry, are you saying he was insane, and therefore not responsible for his actions?

Or are you saying he was a dangerous counterfeiter?

Quote:

The store clerk who accepted a $20 bill from George Floyd shortly before Floyd died in a confrontation with police says he immediately suspected the bill was counterfeit — and he says he offered to pay for Floyd's cigarettes himself.

"I thought that George didn't really know that it was a fake bill," Christopher Martin testified Wednesday about taking the $20 bill. "So I thought I'd be doing him a favor."

https://www.npr.org/sections/trial-over-killing-of-george-floyd/2021/03/31/98308...

Witnesses say he didn't know the bill was counterfeit, and the police aren't saying.

They will neither confirm nor deny the Bill's authenticity, saying the evidence is part of an ongoing investigation.

This means he wasn't guilty. On the evidence provided, police don't even have grounds for an arrest.

If you're saying he was insane, mind you, you've withdrawn your earlier charge.

So, what's it to be?

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