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Re: Election for new Mod in Tavern
Reply #105 - Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:42pm
 
Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:37pm:
No-one has to answer to you. It's a simple poll. Vote or don't and Jesus Christ you are a vindictive piece of shyte with no self reflection.

It's like the inmates on 'One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest' TV vote with these mod elections!
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Re: Election for new Mod in Tavern
Reply #106 - Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:48pm
 
Aussie wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:40pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:37pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:35pm:
Agnes. wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:32pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:24pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:16pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:09pm:
But he didn't did he.  He intervened.  He hid them (on the order of Agnes) so people cannot see what the facts about the people they are being asked to vote for.

How about you do what you reckon he should have?

Unhide them, and put them up here.


I'm not here to do your bidding, Vic made the judgement, not me, I'm not about to usurp his authority to do as he sees best. You know this, we went through this when you wanted me to unilaterally unban Mimo and Kaiju when FD banned them. Sorry, not going to happen.

Make a thread in Rels, post what you like and be happy with that.


Vic isn’t the owner of OzPol. Freediver is. How about you check with Freediver. For all we know he may agree with Vic. Then again he may decide otherwise.

Also ... in the interests of fairness, honesty and transparency and given we are being told by Vic (who does the bidding of the current version of the Agnes ID) that those who have voted in this ridiculous Tavern election are not socks ... reveal who the voting IDs were.

There’s no need to reveal who they voted for.

Just the list of who jumped in to vote. In the interests of fairness, honesty and transparency of course. You wouldn’t have a problem with that Setanta...would you?



If I win I will make a list of people who I asked to vote and those who did not even open their pms- that should clear up something for you I would say! There are no socks! I thought that would come from you and Aussie.


Agnes, your answers please?

These questions are addressed to each of the candidates in the election for Mod of the Member Run Board ("MRB") Tavern.

Yes/No answers please:

1.  Have you ever threatened another candidate or potential candidate in that election with the release of the contents of a PM?

2.  If the answer to Question 1 is 'No' and proof is subsequently posted that you had made such a threat, will you resign/retire your candidacy in that election?

3.  Have you ever handed the Modship of a MRB over to any other person?

4.  Have you ever offered to share your Modship of a MRB with another person and to keep that sharing hidden from freediver?

5.  If the answer to Question 4 is 'No,' and proof is subsequently posted that you had made such an offer, will you resign/retire your candidacy in that election?


No-one has to answer to you. It's a simple poll. Vote or don't and Jesus Christ you are a vindictive piece of shyte with no self reflection.


I have nothing to be vindictive about.  Are you aware of anything Agnes has done to me which would cause me to be vindictive?

I think voters need to be aware of what the people they are voting for get up to.  Don't you?


You have supported obviously untrustable people before. To you, it's about who will support you. You had no probs with pressuring Mong's return and his moderation of an MRB here even though he had previously thrown a drunken hissy fit and deleted his whole MRB. How'd that work out for you?

It's not a hard thing to do, just let the poll run it's cource and if you feel you have something to say, say it in your dunghill. You think people won;t read it there? That they avoid it like the plague?

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Re: Election for new Mod in Tavern
Reply #107 - Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:51pm
 
Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:35pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:30pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:25pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:24pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:16pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:09pm:
But he didn't did he.  He intervened.  He hid them (on the order of Agnes) so people cannot see what the facts about the people they are being asked to vote for.

How about you do what you reckon he should have?

Unhide them, and put them up here.


I'm not here to do your bidding, Vic made the judgement, not me, I'm not about to usurp his authority to do as he sees best. You know this, we went through this when you wanted me to unilaterally unban Mimo and Kaiju when FD banned them. Sorry, not going to happen.

Make a thread in Rels, post what you like and be happy with that.


Vic isn’t the owner of OzPol. Freediver is. How about you check with Freediver. For all we know he may agree with Vic. Then again he may decide otherwise.

Also ... in the interests of fairness, honesty and transparency and given we are being told by Vic (who does the bidding of the current version of the Agnes ID) that those who have voted in this ridiculous Tavern election are not socks ... reveal who the voting IDs were.

There’s no need to reveal who they voted for.

Just the list of who jumped in to vote. In the interests of fairness, honesty and transparency of course. You wouldn’t have a problem with that Setanta...would you?



FD trusts Vic or he'd do something. No need to complicate it.


Hang on are you saying we are not allowed to know who voted?

That’s not right. Even on PA - the sister forum of OzPol we get to see who votes and for whom.

And there’s another issue...Vic has clearly stated that he THINKS none of them are socks. Let’s make sure that he KNOWS that none are socks. You know ... for fairness and honesty and transparency.

In fact we’ll drop everything and HELP VIC out so he knows 100% that all votes are bona fide non multi votes. You know for fairness and honesty and transparency. I mean why go to the trouble of even holding an election if it’s not fair or honest or transparent.


Of course, that's exactly what I'm saying. You may ask FD but I don't think it will get you anywhere, he will, I suspect, let the poll run it's course.


Ahhh right. Thank you for confirming that’s how this fake election over a fake Tavern is going to be played.

It’s not really about voting at all then. It’s about rewarding the person who can amass the most fake multi IDs. And Vic is the GMod who is overlooking that process.

Tell me Setanta did the flamer ID Jim Lahey log in and vote? If so then you need to exclude that fake shared ID. Why?  It belongs to Vic - the GMod you reckon you trust. Mongs share it- mainly Greg.

Did Nom De Plume AND The Credible Poster BOTH vote? If so then 1 of these votes needs to be excluded as they’re both Sappho.

Did the fake id Scope vote? If so then that’s a shared fake Mong ID.

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Re: Election for new Mod in Tavern
Reply #108 - Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:52pm
 
Aussie wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:40pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:37pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:35pm:
Agnes. wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:32pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:24pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:16pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:09pm:
But he didn't did he.  He intervened.  He hid them (on the order of Agnes) so people cannot see what the facts about the people they are being asked to vote for.

How about you do what you reckon he should have?

Unhide them, and put them up here.


I'm not here to do your bidding, Vic made the judgement, not me, I'm not about to usurp his authority to do as he sees best. You know this, we went through this when you wanted me to unilaterally unban Mimo and Kaiju when FD banned them. Sorry, not going to happen.

Make a thread in Rels, post what you like and be happy with that.


Vic isn’t the owner of OzPol. Freediver is. How about you check with Freediver. For all we know he may agree with Vic. Then again he may decide otherwise.

Also ... in the interests of fairness, honesty and transparency and given we are being told by Vic (who does the bidding of the current version of the Agnes ID) that those who have voted in this ridiculous Tavern election are not socks ... reveal who the voting IDs were.

There’s no need to reveal who they voted for.

Just the list of who jumped in to vote. In the interests of fairness, honesty and transparency of course. You wouldn’t have a problem with that Setanta...would you?



If I win I will make a list of people who I asked to vote and those who did not even open their pms- that should clear up something for you I would say! There are no socks! I thought that would come from you and Aussie.


Agnes, your answers please?

These questions are addressed to each of the candidates in the election for Mod of the Member Run Board ("MRB") Tavern.

Yes/No answers please:

1.  Have you ever threatened another candidate or potential candidate in that election with the release of the contents of a PM?

2.  If the answer to Question 1 is 'No' and proof is subsequently posted that you had made such a threat, will you resign/retire your candidacy in that election?

3.  Have you ever handed the Modship of a MRB over to any other person?

4.  Have you ever offered to share your Modship of a MRB with another person and to keep that sharing hidden from freediver?

5.  If the answer to Question 4 is 'No,' and proof is subsequently posted that you had made such an offer, will you resign/retire your candidacy in that election?


No-one has to answer to you. It's a simple poll. Vote or don't and Jesus Christ you are a vindictive piece of shyte with no self reflection.


I have nothing to be vindictive about.  Are you aware of anything Agnes has done to me which would cause me to be vindictive?

I think voters need to be aware of what the people they are voting for get up to.  Don't you?


Setanta is obeying Vic.

I wonder if Freediver obeys Vic these days.

Vic aka Jim Lahey.
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Re: Election for new Mod in Tavern
Reply #109 - Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:56pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:51pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:35pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:30pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:25pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:24pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:16pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:09pm:
But he didn't did he.  He intervened.  He hid them (on the order of Agnes) so people cannot see what the facts about the people they are being asked to vote for.

How about you do what you reckon he should have?

Unhide them, and put them up here.


I'm not here to do your bidding, Vic made the judgement, not me, I'm not about to usurp his authority to do as he sees best. You know this, we went through this when you wanted me to unilaterally unban Mimo and Kaiju when FD banned them. Sorry, not going to happen.

Make a thread in Rels, post what you like and be happy with that.


Vic isn’t the owner of OzPol. Freediver is. How about you check with Freediver. For all we know he may agree with Vic. Then again he may decide otherwise.

Also ... in the interests of fairness, honesty and transparency and given we are being told by Vic (who does the bidding of the current version of the Agnes ID) that those who have voted in this ridiculous Tavern election are not socks ... reveal who the voting IDs were.

There’s no need to reveal who they voted for.

Just the list of who jumped in to vote. In the interests of fairness, honesty and transparency of course. You wouldn’t have a problem with that Setanta...would you?



FD trusts Vic or he'd do something. No need to complicate it.


Hang on are you saying we are not allowed to know who voted?

That’s not right. Even on PA - the sister forum of OzPol we get to see who votes and for whom.

And there’s another issue...Vic has clearly stated that he THINKS none of them are socks. Let’s make sure that he KNOWS that none are socks. You know ... for fairness and honesty and transparency.

In fact we’ll drop everything and HELP VIC out so he knows 100% that all votes are bona fide non multi votes. You know for fairness and honesty and transparency. I mean why go to the trouble of even holding an election if it’s not fair or honest or transparent.


Of course, that's exactly what I'm saying. You may ask FD but I don't think it will get you anywhere, he will, I suspect, let the poll run it's course.


Ahhh right. Thank you for confirming that’s how this fake election over a fake Tavern is going to be played.

It’s not really about voting at all then. It’s about rewarding the person who can amass the most fake multi IDs. And Vic is the GMod who is overlooking that process.

Tell me Setanta did the flamer ID Jim Lahey log in and vote? If so then you need to exclude that fake shared ID. Why?  It belongs to Vic - the GMod you reckon you trust.


I hope people look here before thinking of voting for Larry.

“Most fake multi ids” gawd how many times A DAY do we read crap like that??

As to Jim Lahey:
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God, what a lamebrain!
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Re: Election for new Mod in Tavern
Reply #110 - Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:57pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:51pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:35pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:30pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:25pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:24pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:16pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:09pm:
But he didn't did he.  He intervened.  He hid them (on the order of Agnes) so people cannot see what the facts about the people they are being asked to vote for.

How about you do what you reckon he should have?

Unhide them, and put them up here.


I'm not here to do your bidding, Vic made the judgement, not me, I'm not about to usurp his authority to do as he sees best. You know this, we went through this when you wanted me to unilaterally unban Mimo and Kaiju when FD banned them. Sorry, not going to happen.

Make a thread in Rels, post what you like and be happy with that.


Vic isn’t the owner of OzPol. Freediver is. How about you check with Freediver. For all we know he may agree with Vic. Then again he may decide otherwise.

Also ... in the interests of fairness, honesty and transparency and given we are being told by Vic (who does the bidding of the current version of the Agnes ID) that those who have voted in this ridiculous Tavern election are not socks ... reveal who the voting IDs were.

There’s no need to reveal who they voted for.

Just the list of who jumped in to vote. In the interests of fairness, honesty and transparency of course. You wouldn’t have a problem with that Setanta...would you?



FD trusts Vic or he'd do something. No need to complicate it.


Hang on are you saying we are not allowed to know who voted?

That’s not right. Even on PA - the sister forum of OzPol we get to see who votes and for whom.

And there’s another issue...Vic has clearly stated that he THINKS none of them are socks. Let’s make sure that he KNOWS that none are socks. You know ... for fairness and honesty and transparency.

In fact we’ll drop everything and HELP VIC out so he knows 100% that all votes are bona fide non multi votes. You know for fairness and honesty and transparency. I mean why go to the trouble of even holding an election if it’s not fair or honest or transparent.


Of course, that's exactly what I'm saying. You may ask FD but I don't think it will get you anywhere, he will, I suspect, let the poll run it's course.


Ahhh right. Thank you for confirming that’s how this fake election over a fake Tavern is going to be played.

It’s not really about voting at all then. It’s about rewarding the person who can amass the most fake multi IDs. And Vic is the GMod who is overlooking that process.

Tell me Setanta did the flamer ID Jim Lahey log in and vote? If so then you need to exclude that fake shared ID. Why?  It belongs to Vic - the GMod you reckon you trust.

Did Nom De Plume AND The Credible Poster BOTH vote? If so then 1 of these votes needs to be excluded as they’re both Sappho.

Did the fake id Scope vote? If so then that’s a shared fake Mong ID.


If that was the case and I have no idea why you think it is, we could just appoint who we like without the poll. It makes no sense unless we are tying to give members a choice. So make your choice and if it makes you feel better, pretend we appointed someone. Don't be paranoid.
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Re: Election for new Mod in Tavern
Reply #111 - Nov 20th, 2023 at 8:01pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:51pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:35pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:30pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:25pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:24pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:16pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:09pm:
But he didn't did he.  He intervened.  He hid them (on the order of Agnes) so people cannot see what the facts about the people they are being asked to vote for.

How about you do what you reckon he should have?

Unhide them, and put them up here.


I'm not here to do your bidding, Vic made the judgement, not me, I'm not about to usurp his authority to do as he sees best. You know this, we went through this when you wanted me to unilaterally unban Mimo and Kaiju when FD banned them. Sorry, not going to happen.

Make a thread in Rels, post what you like and be happy with that.


Vic isn’t the owner of OzPol. Freediver is. How about you check with Freediver. For all we know he may agree with Vic. Then again he may decide otherwise.

Also ... in the interests of fairness, honesty and transparency and given we are being told by Vic (who does the bidding of the current version of the Agnes ID) that those who have voted in this ridiculous Tavern election are not socks ... reveal who the voting IDs were.

There’s no need to reveal who they voted for.

Just the list of who jumped in to vote. In the interests of fairness, honesty and transparency of course. You wouldn’t have a problem with that Setanta...would you?



FD trusts Vic or he'd do something. No need to complicate it.


Hang on are you saying we are not allowed to know who voted?

That’s not right. Even on PA - the sister forum of OzPol we get to see who votes and for whom.

And there’s another issue...Vic has clearly stated that he THINKS none of them are socks. Let’s make sure that he KNOWS that none are socks. You know ... for fairness and honesty and transparency.

In fact we’ll drop everything and HELP VIC out so he knows 100% that all votes are bona fide non multi votes. You know for fairness and honesty and transparency. I mean why go to the trouble of even holding an election if it’s not fair or honest or transparent.


Of course, that's exactly what I'm saying. You may ask FD but I don't think it will get you anywhere, he will, I suspect, let the poll run it's course.


Ahhh right. Thank you for confirming that’s how this fake election over a fake Tavern is going to be played.

It’s not really about voting at all then. It’s about rewarding the person who can amass the most fake multi IDs. And Vic is the GMod who is overlooking that process.

Tell me Setanta did the flamer ID Jim Lahey log in and vote? If so then you need to exclude that fake shared ID. Why?  It belongs to Vic - the GMod you reckon you trust. Mongs share it- mainly Greg.

Did Nom De Plume AND The Credible Poster BOTH vote? If so then 1 of these votes needs to be excluded as they’re both Sappho.

Did the fake id Scope vote? If so then that’s a shared fake Mong ID.



See? We don’t know who voted Setanta. It’s much fairer and honest and transparent if the list of IDs who voted was made available IN ALL Sub forum elections.

Hey it’s hardly my fault if fake shared multi ids are allowed on OzPol. And I’ve been told by ? that they are.

I’m merely after an honest, upfront, fair and transparent PROCESS. That way once it’s done we all accept the result AND MOVE ON. So let’s have that list of who voted. Cheers 🙏
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Reply #112 - Nov 20th, 2023 at 8:02pm
 
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Reply #113 - Nov 20th, 2023 at 8:02pm
 
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You have supported obviously untrustable people before. To you, it's about who will support you.


You described me as vindictive.  Are you walking that back now?  If not, please tell us all what has occurred to me at the hands of  Agnes that I would be vindictive over.

Put up Setanta.

Just making allegations is easy.  Substantiating them is another matter.  So, lets see it.



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You had no probs with pressuring Mong's return and his moderation of an MRB here even though he had previously thrown a drunken hissy fit and deleted his whole MRB. How'd that work out for you?


Fine.  Monk is doing his thing at his Forum.  I have no issue with that.  Do you?

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It's not a hard thing to do, just let the poll run it's cource and if you feel you have something to say, say it in your dunghill.


Its not me not allowing the poll to run its 'cource.' That would be Vic who did as ordered by a candidate so that the facts relevant to her candidacy could be hidden from the Forum where the election is taking place.


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You think people won;t read it there? That they avoid it like the plague?


I think people are going to read about an election in the MRB where the election is taking place.

You enjoy bringing Monk into the discussion.  How come, in the election for the Cats and Critters MRB there was no GMod intervention despite the fact that much worse was being thrown around than what Vic has hidden.  All I have done is ask questions, and state facts.

If anyone found those facts distasteful, well, (a) no-one has said so and (b) that's not my problem.  Agnes has done what I have said she has done.  Facts are facts.  Why did Vic hide them from the MRB where the election is taking place.

We do know he was ordered to, and just after the order was posted....pfffft......the Thread disappeared.

Election interference/engineering by a GMod doing the specific bidding of a candidate.  Vic should have been that electoral bloke in Georgia.  If he had been, Trump would be have won in 2020 after 'finding' the required number of votes as ordered by Trump!

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Reply #114 - Nov 20th, 2023 at 8:09pm
 
I honestly can’t believe that our own GMods use multi ids and stick up for those who use multi ids in order to win sub forum elections under false pretences.

I’m trying hard to grasp how low OzPol has sunk. God I miss Muso. I honestly miss that guy. He was real, he was fair and he was decent. The best GMod OzPol ever had. And will never ever have again.


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Reply #115 - Nov 20th, 2023 at 8:14pm
 
This is low.  Setanta post this where he knows I have been banned from, so it sits there unchallenged.

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Aussie thinks every new member is someone's sock out to get him although he hasn't been so bad lately, you think anyone who disagrees with you is a sock. Best leave it to us.


The last person I (falsely) challenged as being a sock is Gordon.  How long has he been a Member here?  Seven years!!!

Yes, I have correctly outed the socks of AiA, like Bit Grose, Purvis etc.  On those matters, I was proven right.  JollyGreenGiant is also a sock and I see that Black Orchid claims it is AiA.
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Reply #116 - Nov 20th, 2023 at 8:39pm
 
Aussie wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 8:14pm:
This is low.  Setanta post this where he knows I have been banned from, so it sits there unchallenged.

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Aussie thinks every new member is someone's sock out to get him although he hasn't been so bad lately, you think anyone who disagrees with you is a sock. Best leave it to us.


The last person I (falsely) challenged as being a sock is Gordon.  How long has he been a Member here?  Seven years!!!

Yes, I have correctly outed the socks of AiA, like Bit Grose, Purvis etc.  On those matters, I was proven right.  JollyGreenGiant is also a sock and I see that Black Orchid claims it is AiA. 


Did any of those vote ?

JollyGreenGiant did for sure! It logged in for a few moments then logged off. As did Nom de plume and The credible poster (who are both Sappho). Also Scope another Mong shared fake ID.

Setanta have these ids voted? If so will they be excluded?
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Reply #117 - Nov 20th, 2023 at 8:41pm
 
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Reply #118 - Nov 20th, 2023 at 8:43pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 8:09pm:
I honestly can’t believe that our own GMods use multi ids and stick up for those who use multi ids in order to win sub forum elections under false pretences.

I’m trying hard to grasp how low OzPol has sunk. God I miss Muso. I honestly miss that guy. He was real, he was fair and he was decent. The best GMod OzPol ever had. And will never ever have again.




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Re: Election for new Mod in Tavern
Reply #119 - Nov 20th, 2023 at 8:44pm
 
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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