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Re: How stupid is our High Court & our Politicians?
Reply #60 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:37pm
 
Gnads wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:34pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 3:43pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 3:32pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 2:13pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 12:39pm:
Many have been convicted by the courts of serious crimes including child rape and murder. 

How many?

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 12:39pm:
Most are convicted criminals.  

I've not seen that reported anywhere.

Who told you that?


they made it up Cheesy


Indeed.  A complete fabrication.

Why do they do that?   Roll Eyes




It doesn't matter if it's only one.

And you know it's more than one.

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Australian Border Force commissioner Michael Outram revealed earlier on Monday that four of the already-freed cohort had been referred to federal police for refusing to wear ankle bracelets, which have been fitted to 132 people.

He said Border Force officials were still trying to contact one of the four people referred for investigation.
 

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/former-detainees-referred-to-afp-over-an...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12794241/Asylum-seekers-refuse-wear-ank...



How do you know it's more than one?   Undecided

There's absolutely nothing in your post that says the four asylum seekers in question are convicted criminals.

So, I'll ask again: how many are convicted criminals?
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Re: How stupid is our High Court & our Politicians?
Reply #61 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:38pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 6:37pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 6:34pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 5:03pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 4:53pm:
And of course it's all about Dutton for the left and aok!    Cheesy Roll Eyes



It was HIS laws that were illegal dumbarse.


I don't remember Dutton being around 25 years ago.  Do you?   


Is it true that 25 years ago, as a police officer, he was driving young aboriginal boys out into the bush, stealing their shoes, and then making them walk all the way back into town?



Irrelevant.

And I bet he would have done the same to white kids who were playing up.

Stop being a putz Peccar.
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Re: How stupid is our High Court & our Politicians?
Reply #62 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:39pm
 
Gnads wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 6:37pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 6:34pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 5:03pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 4:53pm:
And of course it's all about Dutton for the left and aok!    Cheesy Roll Eyes



It was HIS laws that were illegal dumbarse.


I don't remember Dutton being around 25 years ago.  Do you?   


Is it true that 25 years ago, as a police officer, he was driving young aboriginal boys out into the bush, stealing their shoes, and then making them walk all the way back into town?



Irrelevant.



Maybe, but is it true or not?

I'm curious.

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Re: How stupid is our High Court & our Politicians?
Reply #63 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:44pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:32pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:18pm:
Gnads wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:10pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 2:26pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 2:21pm:
Gnads wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 1:02pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 10:09am:
Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 9:57am:
So they get monitored, and they get charged if they breach the rules ... but how long will the monitoring go on for?

Most of them are not criminals we are told, so the majority will be given the opportunity to apply for citizenship after the next election

The few remaining, criminals, will be strictly monitored until the next election, after which, the Libs and Labs will come to an agreement that will allow those criminals to work, but with their ankle monitors still on. Then after two years of working and being monitored during that time, they will have their ankle monitors removed and allowed to blend into the community. The dust would have settled, and our short memories and our abundance of humanitarian tolerance will take over, negating any thoughts that those criminals could possibly commit any more crimes

My conscience is clear, I've never voted for the half-brained ALP and Coalition, and I'm not about to start now

Who'd vote for that big mouth Clare O'Neil? ... egotistical generic Clare! ... "I'll keep you safe, I'll keep you safe" - sure, keep the criminals safe before anyone else







Why would you want politicians to decide someone's guilt without a trial and decide the punishment....There is nowhere to send these people once they are rejected by a third country....What is needed is practicle solutions that do not punish innocent people???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



You send them back to the airport in their country of origin & then it's that countries problem not ours.

And I didn't say all of them - but there are dozens in that 141 who are convicted criminals.

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Constitutional law expert and UNSW Professor George Williams said it was “unusual” for the court to leave a government “flying blind” by delivering a verbal verdict that had an immediate effect, potentially months in advance of providing the reasoning behind the decision so that Labor might legislate to mitigate the fallout from the ruling.

It’s important to acknowledge the court left Labor in this difficult position, because in many ways it has left the government fighting with one hand behind its back.


Now why do you think the High Court would do something like that?

They are not a "law unto themselves". They do not ... or they're not supposed to "run the country".

And a court should also be concerned that their decisions do not adversely affect Australian citizens.

And that's what they've done by their actions.


You do understand that every criminal accept those who commit the most serious crimes cannot be held indefinatly with no adverse judgement found against them....Even if these people are convicted of rape or other serious crimes by an Australia court there would be a release date set by the court....There are also conventions and treaties Australia has ratified that prevent our Government from returning asylum seekers to a country where they face persecution....I understand people's concerns about criminals being released into the community which is why new legislation needs to beenacted to address the issues raised by the High Court....PeterDutton flubbed it again!!!




I understand those concerns too, however, convicted Australian criminals are released back into society every day.

Once they've completed their sentences, they are set free.

So, we have Australian-born citizens walking around our streets right now who have been convicted of rape, murder, kidnapping, child abuse, etc.

That's the way it's always been.

Some of these asylum seekers have been convicted of crimes in the past and have obviously served their sentences in their home countries.

We don't know how many though - is it 4 or is it 100?




These in the main are not Australians.



Indeed.

But how many are convicted criminals?

Nobody seems to know.

Somebody said "most", without a shred of evidence.


How many convicted criminals are you happy to release from detention, repellent creep?



White, Australian-born, convicted criminals are released from detention in this country every single day.

The asylum seekers in question were not being detained for their crimes - they were being detained because they don't have visas.

What part of this don't you understand?

Now, how many are convicted criminals - do you have a number?


Illegal queue jumping chancers, many are criminals NOBODY WANTS.
We are stuck with hundreds  of criminal illegals queue jumpers - yes, shitehead, mouth it: ILLEGAL queue jumpers  - THEIR OWN COUNTRIES wouldn't take back. The dregs of their countries as you are of this one. There is no cause that aims to destroy Australia that you don't support as enthusiastically as your impaired uncle Bbwian.
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Re: How stupid is our High Court & our Politicians?
Reply #64 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:44pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:37pm:
Gnads wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:34pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 3:43pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 3:32pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 2:13pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 12:39pm:
Many have been convicted by the courts of serious crimes including child rape and murder. 

How many?

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 12:39pm:
Most are convicted criminals.  

I've not seen that reported anywhere.

Who told you that?


they made it up Cheesy


Indeed.  A complete fabrication.

Why do they do that?   Roll Eyes




It doesn't matter if it's only one.

And you know it's more than one.

Quote:
Australian Border Force commissioner Michael Outram revealed earlier on Monday that four of the already-freed cohort had been referred to federal police for refusing to wear ankle bracelets, which have been fitted to 132 people.

He said Border Force officials were still trying to contact one of the four people referred for investigation.
 

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/former-detainees-referred-to-afp-over-an...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12794241/Asylum-seekers-refuse-wear-ank...



How do you know it's more than one?   Undecided

There's absolutely nothing in your post that says the four asylum seekers in question are convicted criminals.

So, I'll ask again: how many are convicted criminals?


Ibrahim, the Afghanini paedophile for starters. that's more than one.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-14/government-details-visas-immigration-dete...

That's more than one ... these are serious convictions.
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Re: How stupid is our High Court & our Politicians?
Reply #65 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:45pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:39pm:
Gnads wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 6:37pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 6:34pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 5:03pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 4:53pm:
And of course it's all about Dutton for the left and aok!    Cheesy Roll Eyes



It was HIS laws that were illegal dumbarse.


I don't remember Dutton being around 25 years ago.  Do you?   


Is it true that 25 years ago, as a police officer, he was driving young aboriginal boys out into the bush, stealing their shoes, and then making them walk all the way back into town?



Irrelevant.



Maybe, but is it true or not?

I'm curious.



It's irrelevant to this situation. STFU.
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Re: How stupid is our High Court & our Politicians?
Reply #66 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:49pm
 
Black Orchid wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 4:53pm:
And of course it's all about Dutton for the left and aok!    Cheesy Roll Eyes



The thread title is about stupid politicians dumbarse.
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Reply #67 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:51pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 5:17pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 5:03pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 4:53pm:
And of course it's all about Dutton for the left and aok!    Cheesy Roll Eyes



It was HIS laws that were illegal dumbarse.

It has been law for 25 years. 


They weren't locked up indefinitely 25yrs ago.
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Reply #68 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:52pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:39pm:
Gnads wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 6:37pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 6:34pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 5:03pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 4:53pm:
And of course it's all about Dutton for the left and aok!    Cheesy Roll Eyes



It was HIS laws that were illegal dumbarse.


I don't remember Dutton being around 25 years ago.  Do you?   


Is it true that 25 years ago, as a police officer, he was driving young aboriginal boys out into the bush, stealing their shoes, and then making them walk all the way back into town?



Irrelevant.



Maybe, but is it true or not?

I'm curious.



Pity he didn't do it to you. Hang your guitar, your drums, your piano and kitchen sink around your weaselly chicken  neck and let you walk back to civilisation so you would appreciate it, rotten punk.


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Re: How stupid is our High Court & our Politicians?
Reply #69 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:54pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:51pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 5:17pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 5:03pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 4:53pm:
And of course it's all about Dutton for the left and aok!    Cheesy Roll Eyes



It was HIS laws that were illegal dumbarse.

It has been law for 25 years. 


They weren't locked up indefinitely 25yrs ago.

How is that relevamt or illuminating in any way, thick as **** bozo?

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Reply #70 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:56pm
 
Black Orchid wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 6:34pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 5:03pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 4:53pm:
And of course it's all about Dutton for the left and aok!    Cheesy Roll Eyes



It was HIS laws that were illegal dumbarse.


I don't remember Dutton being around 25 years ago.  Do you?   


Ohh, you read Frank's reply too? Bravo. Now you just have to figure out what it means.
The laws weren't wrong, the high Court is simply enforcing those laws. Dutton was wrong in locking them up indefinitely, in doing so he made up his own laws. .
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Reply #71 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:57pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:54pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:51pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 5:17pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 5:03pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 4:53pm:
And of course it's all about Dutton for the left and aok!    Cheesy Roll Eyes



It was HIS laws that were illegal dumbarse.

It has been law for 25 years. 


They weren't locked up indefinitely 25yrs ago.

How is that relevamt or illuminating in any way, thick as **** bozo?



Not relevant Frank?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Get that refund
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Reply #72 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 8:00pm
 
Gnads wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:44pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:37pm:
Gnads wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:34pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 3:43pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 3:32pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 2:13pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 12:39pm:
Many have been convicted by the courts of serious crimes including child rape and murder. 

How many?

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 12:39pm:
Most are convicted criminals.  

I've not seen that reported anywhere.

Who told you that?


they made it up Cheesy


Indeed.  A complete fabrication.

Why do they do that?   Roll Eyes




It doesn't matter if it's only one.

And you know it's more than one.

Quote:
Australian Border Force commissioner Michael Outram revealed earlier on Monday that four of the already-freed cohort had been referred to federal police for refusing to wear ankle bracelets, which have been fitted to 132 people.

He said Border Force officials were still trying to contact one of the four people referred for investigation.
 

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/former-detainees-referred-to-afp-over-an...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12794241/Asylum-seekers-refuse-wear-ank...



How do you know it's more than one?   Undecided

There's absolutely nothing in your post that says the four asylum seekers in question are convicted criminals.

So, I'll ask again: how many are convicted criminals?


Ibrahim, the Afghanini paedophile for starters. that's more than one.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-14/government-details-visas-immigration-dete...

That's more than one ... these are serious convictions.


So, two?

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Reply #73 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 8:00pm
 
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It doesn't matter if it's only one.


So why  pretend it's all of them if it doesn't matter?
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Reply #74 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 8:02pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:44pm:
Illegal queue jumping chancers, many are criminals NOBODY WANTS.


There's no queue.

But tell me, how many are convicted criminals?

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