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Reply #15 - Dec 4th, 2023 at 12:54pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4th, 2023 at 10:28am:
Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 4th, 2023 at 12:27am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 9:40pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 7:40pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 5:25pm:
ANZAC Day continues to be observed and will continue to be observed in Adelaide.


So why then, was the wording "ANZAC DAY" removed from the official 25th April public holiday?


Why not? Everybody knows what happens on the 25th April, Bias.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


So you don't know why they removed it, and couldn't give a stuff, you just accept whatever the Labor party does, is that it?

Or you know why they removed it, but you're far too cowardly to say why

I'll tell you why they shouldn't have removed it ... it's ANZAC day ... and future generations will be asking: "Why doesn't the SA govt recognize it as such?"

I'm surprised you're so jaded and nonchalant about it, since you've got threads about remembering diggers etc

It appears you're not even a half-brain lefty, seems both your cerebral hemispheres are wasting away, as happens to two faced cowards like you


I once wrote an entire exam essay about why Australia Day should be abandoned in favour of ANZAC day as a national holiday.  Gained me a distinction, from memory and that was at ADFA in my Masters Degree.  Now, I knew what the 25th April was then and I know what it is, now.  I once used to live in South Australia and everybody I knew, knew what happened on 25th April.  You cannot erase ANZAC Day from the Australian Consciousness that easily.  Time you grew up and recognised that.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


So why erase the name of the day in the calendar? What is the point of this change, cockwomble? what has it improved?
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Reply #16 - Dec 4th, 2023 at 1:54pm
 
Belgarion wrote on Dec 4th, 2023 at 10:42am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 9:40pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 7:40pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 5:25pm:
ANZAC Day continues to be observed and will continue to be observed in Adelaide.


So why then, was the wording "ANZAC DAY" removed from the official 25th April public holiday?


Why not? Everybody knows what happens on the 25th April, Bias.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Yes, everyone knows. However the removal of the actual name ANZAC Day, along with Australia Day and Christmas Day, from the legislation and simply calling these days 'public holiday' indicates a lack of official recognition and a downplaying of their significance by the SA government.
This leaves open the possibility of discontented groups trying to rename these public holidays and claim them for airing of their pet grievances.   


What it does is it removes objections from non-Christians and non-citizens to the names of the days.  Suddenly they have nothing to protest against any more.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #17 - Dec 4th, 2023 at 2:21pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4th, 2023 at 10:28am:
Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 4th, 2023 at 12:27am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 9:40pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 7:40pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 5:25pm:
ANZAC Day continues to be observed and will continue to be observed in Adelaide.


So why then, was the wording "ANZAC DAY" removed from the official 25th April public holiday?


Why not? Everybody knows what happens on the 25th April, Bias.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


So you don't know why they removed it, and couldn't give a stuff, you just accept whatever the Labor party does, is that it?

Or you know why they removed it, but you're far too cowardly to say why

I'll tell you why they shouldn't have removed it ... it's ANZAC day ... and future generations will be asking: "Why doesn't the SA govt recognize it as such?"

I'm surprised you're so jaded and nonchalant about it, since you've got threads about remembering diggers etc

It appears you're not even a half-brain lefty, seems both your cerebral hemispheres are wasting away, as happens to two faced cowards like you


I once wrote an entire exam essay about why Australia Day should be abandoned in favour of ANZAC day as a national holiday.  Gained me a distinction, from memory and that was at ADFA in my Masters Degree.  Now, I knew what the 25th April was then and I know what it is, now.  I once used to live in South Australia and everybody I knew, knew what happened on 25th April.  You cannot erase ANZAC Day from the Australian Consciousness that easily.  Time you grew up and recognised that.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Did you all see that? -

Brian wrote an exam essay on it while doing his Masters Degree.

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Reply #18 - Dec 4th, 2023 at 2:45pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4th, 2023 at 1:54pm:
Belgarion wrote on Dec 4th, 2023 at 10:42am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 9:40pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 7:40pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 5:25pm:
ANZAC Day continues to be observed and will continue to be observed in Adelaide.


So why then, was the wording "ANZAC DAY" removed from the official 25th April public holiday?


Why not? Everybody knows what happens on the 25th April, Bias.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Yes, everyone knows. However the removal of the actual name ANZAC Day, along with Australia Day and Christmas Day, from the legislation and simply calling these days 'public holiday' indicates a lack of official recognition and a downplaying of their significance by the SA government.
This leaves open the possibility of discontented groups trying to rename these public holidays and claim them for airing of their pet grievances.   


What it does is it removes objections from non-Christians and non-citizens to the names of the days.  Suddenly they have nothing to protest against any more.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



They didn't change Easter, cockwomble. 

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Reply #19 - Dec 4th, 2023 at 4:26pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 9:53pm:
Jasin wrote on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 9:44pm:
Is it true the ADF are all Gay?
The reason why they don't want women in the armed forces.


I attended an Army reunion today, Jasin.  There were plenty of female members there.  I think they were tougher than you are.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Oh, I have no doubt many would be 'tougher' than I.
Hell, I've even seen Women Nurses powerlifting fat & lazy Plebs in the Hospitals better than you and I, especially when doing StoneMasonry - my best was 100kg (and that's a carry up stairs).
So I'm pretty sure there are women in the ADF who could whip your gay arse.  Grin Probably better shots than you, too.

But I didn't say anything about 'Women being Worthy - in comparison to Men' in the ADF.
Why the paranoid jump to eh Brian? Feeling insecure?

I simply said the reason why the ADF doesn't want Women, because many Males 'still' decry about them as unworthy - and the fact that it can be said at the start the ADF was reluctant to take women more than just 'office biatches'.

Well, the ADF is known internationally as the
Boutique Military
and with that, I guess the ADF 'still' doesn't want women because they (& you) are all
GAY
!!!
...let alone you got to SCAB women from the Medical Industry to get laid. The price of which is the 'sympathy-wounded' pathway to achieve a root in the first place.  Grin


...oh, btw the last women I slept with was Ex-Military (still has camo lingerie) and her father was a Major.  Wink Kiss
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Reply #20 - Dec 4th, 2023 at 4:34pm
 
Doing a Masters Exam on why
'Military Warmongering and Enslavement of Civilians Day'
should become 'and'
REPLACE
our National POLITICAL (Aust) day...

...shows what a brown nose to the Military he is, forsaking common sense and any understanding about this country as a whole - both past and in the future.  Grin

Major: "Well Bwian. What an amazing giant paper on Sucking Military Dick you have there."...Brian smiles Smiley "I guess we have to save face and give you a big reward and Smiley Stamp in return for your efforts!?"
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Reply #21 - Dec 4th, 2023 at 4:46pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4th, 2023 at 1:54pm:
Belgarion wrote on Dec 4th, 2023 at 10:42am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 9:40pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 7:40pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 5:25pm:
ANZAC Day continues to be observed and will continue to be observed in Adelaide.


So why then, was the wording "ANZAC DAY" removed from the official 25th April public holiday?


Why not? Everybody knows what happens on the 25th April, Bias.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Yes, everyone knows. However the removal of the actual name ANZAC Day, along with Australia Day and Christmas Day, from the legislation and simply calling these days 'public holiday' indicates a lack of official recognition and a downplaying of their significance by the SA government.
This leaves open the possibility of discontented groups trying to rename these public holidays and claim them for airing of their pet grievances.   


What it does is it removes objections from non-Christians and non-citizens to the names of the days.  Suddenly they have nothing to protest against any more.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Non Christians have had no issue previously and have their own days of celebration, while non citizens have no say anyway. This is a woke government attempting to appeal to the fringe malcontents. Roll Eyes
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Reply #22 - Dec 5th, 2023 at 8:16am
 
The Australian Defence Force will gain access to France’s military bases in the Pacific and Indian Oceans under a new road map to reset the countries’ ties after the Attack-class submarine row.


Under the new reciprocal access arrangements, Australian naval vessels will be more frequent visitors at France’s Pacific bases in New Caledonia, French Polynesia, and its Indian Ocean bases at Réunion and Mayotte.


More access to Club Med for RAN sailors - great!
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Reply #23 - Dec 5th, 2023 at 11:28am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 5th, 2023 at 8:16am:
The Australian Defence Force will gain access to France’s military bases in the Pacific and Indian Oceans under a new road map to reset the countries’ ties after the Attack-class submarine row.


Under the new reciprocal access arrangements, Australian naval vessels will be more frequent visitors at France’s Pacific bases in New Caledonia, French Polynesia, and its Indian Ocean bases at Réunion and Mayotte.


More access to Club Med for RAN sailors - great!


Noumea is a good run, but the police cells are a bit ordinary.  Cool
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Reply #24 - Dec 14th, 2023 at 8:44am
 
The US Navy has asked Australia to send a warship to the Red Sea as part of an expanded international task force, in response to growing attacks on shipping by Iran-backed militia that are threatening vital global sea lanes.

The move, under consideration by the Albanese government, would mark a major escalation in Australia’s response to the unfolding crisis in the Middle East and reflect fears the conflict could become a region-wide war.

Any Australian warship sent to the Red Sea in this crisis would be entering a hot war zone where it could easily find itself fired upon and forced to fire back amid a volatile and fast-changing security situation.
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Reply #25 - Dec 24th, 2023 at 8:05am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 14th, 2023 at 8:44am:
The US Navy has asked Australia to send a warship to the Red Sea as part of an expanded international task force, in response to growing attacks on shipping by Iran-backed militia that are threatening vital global sea lanes.

The move, under consideration by the Albanese government, would mark a major escalation in Australia’s response to the unfolding crisis in the Middle East and reflect fears the conflict could become a region-wide war.

Any Australian warship sent to the Red Sea in this crisis would be entering a hot war zone where it could easily find itself fired upon and forced to fire back amid a volatile and fast-changing security situation.

There are only three potential reasons Australia would say no to a US Navy request to help protect commercial shipping through sea lanes where more than 12 per cent of the world’s trade passes, including many billions of dollars of Australian imports and exports.

The first is that there has been a change in Australia’s strategic priorities to such a degree that we no longer support sending military assets out of our immediate region except in extreme circumstances.

The second is that the navy is so rundown, so inadequately funded, that it does not have a ship, crew or appropriate weapons to be able to muster at short notice a single ship for deployment to a hot war zone in the Middle East.

The third is that the government is wary of alienating Arab and pro-Palestinian voters in Australia by sending a warship to the Middle East when it is stepping up calls for a ceasefire in Gaza and is increasingly critical of Israel’s conduct of its war on Hamas.

“Defence Minister Marles is manipulating the so-called Defence of Australia doctrine and the primacy of our region of primary strategic concern as an excuse,” Dibb tells Inquirer.

“It was never meant to exclude modest contributions to the joint allied effort. He talks with abandon about protecting sea lines of communication elsewhere but seems to ignore the fact that sea lines from the Persian Gulf through to the Red Sea and the Suez Canal are critical for oil supplies.”


“Only days after the US congress had agreed, with qualifications, to sell us three Virginia-class SSNs (nuclear submarines), Canberra looks a gift horse in the mouth and says no to deploying a solitary warship into the Red Sea,” he says. “This is not only highly embarrassing, it is a national disgrace.”




It is a disgrace. Spineless Labor is afraid of upsetting the Muslims by actually pushing back against Islamists jeopardising international shipping lanes. Albo is prepared to fight only Tories, the Bbwianesque little twerp.

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Reply #26 - Dec 24th, 2023 at 9:10am
 
Ummmm .... let us think ...... not having a drone shooter is not a deterrent to sending a ship that can take over other duties so as to free the drone shooters to shoot the drones... we are not talking here about small drones like your backyarder .. we are talking about drones that fly high and carry ordnance - all of which ordnance the ship weapons systems are designed to handle...

There's more to this than meets the eye....

Anyway - this may now prompt the OzGuvCorp to obtain or create drone shooters... ground and ship-based and aircraft based.... send up the Hawker Typhoons and the Spits to knock them V-1s off balance... actually they didn't ram them - they used the airflow over the top of the wing to tip their gyros off balance and make them spin into the earth.. must've frightened a few cows...

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Reply #27 - Dec 24th, 2023 at 10:49am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 8:05am:
Frank wrote on Dec 14th, 2023 at 8:44am:
The US Navy has asked Australia to send a warship to the Red Sea as part of an expanded international task force, in response to growing attacks on shipping by Iran-backed militia that are threatening vital global sea lanes.

The move, under consideration by the Albanese government, would mark a major escalation in Australia’s response to the unfolding crisis in the Middle East and reflect fears the conflict could become a region-wide war.

Any Australian warship sent to the Red Sea in this crisis would be entering a hot war zone where it could easily find itself fired upon and forced to fire back amid a volatile and fast-changing security situation.

There are only three potential reasons Australia would say no to a US Navy request to help protect commercial shipping through sea lanes where more than 12 per cent of the world’s trade passes, including many billions of dollars of Australian imports and exports.

The first is that there has been a change in Australia’s strategic priorities to such a degree that we no longer support sending military assets out of our immediate region except in extreme circumstances.

The second is that the navy is so rundown, so inadequately funded, that it does not have a ship, crew or appropriate weapons to be able to muster at short notice a single ship for deployment to a hot war zone in the Middle East.

The third is that the government is wary of alienating Arab and pro-Palestinian voters in Australia by sending a warship to the Middle East when it is stepping up calls for a ceasefire in Gaza and is increasingly critical of Israel’s conduct of its war on Hamas.

“Defence Minister Marles is manipulating the so-called Defence of Australia doctrine and the primacy of our region of primary strategic concern as an excuse,” Dibb tells Inquirer.

“It was never meant to exclude modest contributions to the joint allied effort. He talks with abandon about protecting sea lines of communication elsewhere but seems to ignore the fact that sea lines from the Persian Gulf through to the Red Sea and the Suez Canal are critical for oil supplies.”


“Only days after the US congress had agreed, with qualifications, to sell us three Virginia-class SSNs (nuclear submarines), Canberra looks a gift horse in the mouth and says no to deploying a solitary warship into the Red Sea,” he says. “This is not only highly embarrassing, it is a national disgrace.”




It is a disgrace. Spineless Labor is afraid of upsetting the Muslims by actually pushing back against Islamists jeopardising international shipping lanes. Albo is prepared to fight only Tories, the Bbwianesque little twerp.



Number three seems the most likely, although there are some elements of one and two that could be used as an excuse for three. There has been some interesting debate on the ex RAN sites I visit. 
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Reply #28 - Dec 24th, 2023 at 11:22am
 
51st State Australia doesn't want to send a 'boat' where it's American boss tell it to go.

51st State Australia cowardly hides behind USA.
...depends on the USA.
...sends Mercenary Troops for the USA, many who fantasise that they are the 300 Spartans  Grin
...buys Submarines off the USA, which sabotaged the French contract.

...and now 'cowardly' refuses to send a 'boat' when the tough gets going.

Welcome to the Australian 'Boutique' ADF.
...you can see why they need to enslave with drafting citizens and civilians and 'boys'.
No-one in their right mind would join the ADF, especially as a 'slave' to the USA: a Rogue Political nation.
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Reply #29 - Dec 25th, 2023 at 7:54pm
 
Defence - we send de man wit' de hammer and de nails to fix 'im!!

Just reading a shocker about Afghanistan and the preventable deaths of three Aus soldiers ... as someone said about something else - the cover-up/paper over was worse than the actual event... and raises doubts about senior military command...
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