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Reply #45 - Feb 7th, 2024 at 5:14pm
 
I saw Brian in full battle uniform hiding behind some Librarian and telling him to go fight that Viet-Cong Soldier for him.
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Reply #46 - Feb 7th, 2024 at 5:48pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 7th, 2024 at 4:37pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me, you are a worry-wart, Soren.  We presently have no enemies so who are we supposedly defending against?  China is a distant worry, way off there, some 5000 kilometres away.  Who else is a danger?  Asylum seekers?  Terrorists?  Anyone?  Americans perhaps?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



You are, of course, a complete fool and numpty.


The suspended death sentence, now likely to mean life imprisonment, passed by the Chinese courts, in the service of the Chinese Communist Party, against Australian academic and writer Yang Hengjun is a sign of the utter contempt Beijing has for Australia, for human rights and the rule of law, and for international agreements such as those providing for consular access to our citizens.

It’s a tragedy for a man guilty of nothing worse than being a brave dissident. It’s also a stark reminder of the nature of the government that is, second only to the United States, the biggest military power on Earth, and that seeks complete dominance of our region
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Reply #47 - Feb 7th, 2024 at 6:41pm
 
Tell me, does China have jurisdiction over crimes committed in the PRC, Soren?  Yang Hengjun is in China.  He is under the PRC's jurisdiction.  He has gone up Chinese law and Chinese courts.  He doesn't have Extraterritoriality, which you believe he does.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #48 - Feb 7th, 2024 at 6:50pm
 
Belgarion wrote on Dec 4th, 2023 at 10:42am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 9:40pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 7:40pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 5:25pm:
ANZAC Day continues to be observed and will continue to be observed in Adelaide.


So why then, was the wording "ANZAC DAY" removed from the official 25th April public holiday?


Why not? Everybody knows what happens on the 25th April, Bias.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Yes, everyone knows. However the removal of the actual name ANZAC Day, along with Australia Day and Christmas Day, from the legislation and simply calling these days 'public holiday' indicates a lack of official recognition and a downplaying of their significance by the SA government.
This leaves open the possibility of discontented groups trying to rename these public holidays and claim them for airing of their pet grievances.   

Well said.
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Reply #49 - Feb 7th, 2024 at 8:38pm
 
Labor has done ‘absolutely nothing’ with defence: Greg Sheridan



“One reason is because it has very weak ministerial leadership in defence,” Mr Sheridan told Sky News host Peta Credlin.

“Under Labor, you’ve got what I think is the most bizarre ministerial arrangements I’ve ever seen in journalism.

Mr Sheridan pointed out Richard Marles presides over the “most complex and demanding portfolio in government” while also taking on Deputy Prime Minister duties.

“I don’t think there is another nation in the world that spends its defence dollar as inefficiently as Australia does.”

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/labor-has-done-absolutely-nothing-with-defe...
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Reply #50 - Feb 7th, 2024 at 8:41pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 7th, 2024 at 6:50pm:
Belgarion wrote on Dec 4th, 2023 at 10:42am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 9:40pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 7:40pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 5:25pm:
ANZAC Day continues to be observed and will continue to be observed in Adelaide.


So why then, was the wording "ANZAC DAY" removed from the official 25th April public holiday?


Why not? Everybody knows what happens on the 25th April, Bias.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Yes, everyone knows. However the removal of the actual name ANZAC Day, along with Australia Day and Christmas Day, from the legislation and simply calling these days 'public holiday' indicates a lack of official recognition and a downplaying of their significance by the SA government.
This leaves open the possibility of discontented groups trying to rename these public holidays and claim them for airing of their pet grievances.   

Well said.



A bipartisan, cultural collapse in Australia, which no longer seems to take its own defence - and history and much of its Australian identity and values - seriously.
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Reply #51 - Feb 7th, 2024 at 8:48pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 7th, 2024 at 8:38pm:
Greg Sheridan


Greg Sheridan who never saw a dictator he didn't like.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #52 - Feb 7th, 2024 at 8:50pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 7th, 2024 at 6:41pm:
Tell me, does China have jurisdiction over crimes committed in the PRC, Soren?  Yang Hengjun is in China.  He is under the PRC's jurisdiction.  He has gone up Chinese law and Chinese courts.  He doesn't have Extraterritoriality, which you believe he does.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Australian citizens. Secret trial. Unclear charges, no access to consular or legal assistance. You are not a Chinese citizens so you have no ability to criticise their treatment of Australian citizens, right, you stupid cockwomble.




The death sentence imposed on Australian writer Yang Hengjun on Monday, which may be reduced to life in prison after two years for good behaviour – if Dr Yang, 58, who is critically ill, survives that long – is macabre and harrowing. Dr Yang was arrested by 10 security agents in January 2019 at the gate at Guangzhou’s international airport as he was arriving from New York, where he was based as a visiting scholar at Columbia University. He travelled to China to visit his sick brother, but was taken to an unofficial “black jail”, tortured and interrogated by secret police around 300 times, sometimes in the middle of the night, while confined in shackles. Dr Yang, whose writings called on China to embrace democracy, has consistently denied the shadowy charges of espionage levelled against him. These were prosecuted almost three years ago in a secretive, closed-door trial in Beijing, to which Australia’s ambassador was denied entry. Throughout his ordeal, Dr Yang has had limited access to lawyers, consular assistance and family.

Dr Yang’s treatment shows the Chinese Communist Party’s longstanding preference for punishing those it regards as opponents – rather than following transparent, procedural fairness and the rule of law – has not changed. After five years of advocacy on behalf of Dr Yang by the Morrison and Albanese governments, the sentence shows the real extent of Australia’s influence with Beijing. That is as true now under Labor, when relations appear to have thawed, as it was when they were at their lowest ebb under Scott Morrison.

In retrospect, Chinese ambassador Xiao Qian – an urbane master of smooth yet menacing rhetoric – gave a hint at his new year’s press conference last month that trouble lay ahead for Dr Yang. Mr Xiao played down questions about whether China would release Dr Yang in coming months. His case was different to that of journalist Cheng Lei, the ambassador said, and he did not expect Dr Yang’s case would come to such a conclusion.

Ms Lei’s treatment at the brutal hands of China was also grossly unfair. A Chinese-born television reporter and Australian citizen who worked for China’s state-run English-language TV station, she was released in October after three years’ detention, on vague allegations of sharing Chinese state secrets. After her release, Ms Lei, 49, likened the experience to “being buried alive’’. Last month, this newspaper named her our Australian of the Year for her resilience, articulacy and strength of values, including freedom of the press.
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Reply #53 - Feb 7th, 2024 at 9:24pm
 
Rather foolish for Yang Hengjun to place himself in jeopardy then.  Tell me, Soren would you contemplate a trip to China?  No, I wonder why?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #54 - Feb 7th, 2024 at 9:27pm
 
How long has Brian been a covert Racist?
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Reply #55 - Feb 7th, 2024 at 9:33pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Feb 7th, 2024 at 10:27am:
Frank wrote on Dec 14th, 2023 at 8:44am:
The US Navy has asked Australia to send a warship to the Red Sea as part of an expanded international task force, in response to growing attacks on shipping by Iran-backed militia that are threatening vital global sea lanes.

The move, under consideration by the Albanese government, would mark a major escalation in Australia’s response to the unfolding crisis in the Middle East and reflect fears the conflict could become a region-wide war.

Any Australian warship sent to the Red Sea in this crisis would be entering a hot war zone where it could easily find itself fired upon and forced to fire back amid a volatile and fast-changing security situation.


... and with no drone defence apart from the close-in defence system .... which doesn't hit bombs dropped from drones... though existing systems could take out drones.... but under what rules?

Down 'em All!  Let God Sort 'Em Out!!  'Allied' drones would have an IFF system.




Shadow defence minister Andrew Hastie has expressed his disappointment in the Albanese government for not sending a Royal Australian Naval vessel to the Red Sea at the request of the United States in December.

Mr Hastie said America and its allies "have no choice" to combat the Houthi rebels in the Red Sea as a significant portion of global trade passes through the region and the disruption will cost Australians "a lot of money".

He said the Labor government took a "weak position" not to join the US, UK, France and Italy who are "doing the hard work" to keep the trade routes operational.

Mr Hastie illustrated the poignancy of the situation in simple terms; 12 per cent of global trade passes through the Gate of Tears into the Red Sea while up to 29 ships have been targeted by the Iran-backed militant group with 13 sustaining direct hits.

"Just today, I looked at the prices of moving a 40-foot shipping container from northern Europe to the Far East. They've gone up 147% in the last month," Mr Hastie said.

Royal Australian Navy Vice Admiral Mark Hammond said Mr Albanese's decision not to send a warship to the region to combat the Iran-backed Houthi rebels was not a question of capability, but a "decision for government".

"This was a question of the government deciding where it wanted to focus its surface combatant force at the moment," Vice Admiral Hammond said.

The recent Houthi tactics of deploying drones such as the Shahid 136, which has a range of 2.5 kilometres and the ability to carry a 50-kilogram warhead, prompted him review and assure the Navy’s own capabilities.

"I've got complete confidence in our radar and weapons systems on our surface combatant force," he said.

Mr Hastie said the significant costs to redirect and reroute the ships, and the financial complexity of the situation, will end up affecting Australians.

"The Houthi rebels who are backed by Iran, a lot of the equipment and missiles that they're using, the drones, particularly Iranian - the US and its allies have no choice but to strike against these rebels to keep these ships moving," he said.

"Because the costs are significant, the financial complexity, the operational complexity of rerouting these ships from the Red Sea down around the Cape of Good Hope is going to cost Australian mums and dads and small businesses a lot of money if we don't sort this out."

Mr Hastie said under the Labor government Australia is a “fair-weather friend”.

"Over the last 30 years, we've sent 57 Royal Australian naval vessels to the Middle East or waters around the Middle East to fight against piracy and terror," Mr Hastie said.

"I admire the Chief of Navy and his courage in speaking up for the Navy. He said that they could have done it. So this is a political decision.

"And the Albanese government has still not explained why they've taken the weak decision and not supported the US, the French, the British, the Italians and other nations who are doing the hard work to keep those shipping, trade routes open.
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The Houthi rebels say the attacks in the Red Sea are in support of Palestinians killed in the ongoing Israel-Hamas war in Gaza. Houthi leader Abdul Malik al-Houthi said recently the group will "seek to escalate more and more if the barbaric and brutal aggression against Gaza does not stop".

It comes as shipping vessel MV Bahijah, containing almost 17,000 sheep bound for Israel, remains in limbo in Fremantle, Western Australia, amid the ongoing security issues involving indiscriminate Houthi attacks in the Red Sea.

If the export permit is refused again, the animals will be slaughtered.

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Reply #56 - Feb 7th, 2024 at 10:00pm
 
Send de man wit' de hammer and de nails to fix it!

Carpet bomb Yemen... of no account anyway.... pack of idiots intent on cutting their own throats, just like Hamas... so worked up over their own invulnerability under Allah that they just don't see those body parts flying past...

I have often walked
Yemen streets before,
But the pavement always stayed
Beneath my feet before.
All at once am I
Seven stories high
Knowing I'm on the street
You just Blitzed....

There go Ahmed's balls
They don't bother me
I am more concerned about landing
In one piece you see
There goes Mahomed, too
In a piece or two
He won't be there
On the street
You just Blitzed.

And oh - that towering mushroom
That makes street after street here disappear
That overpowering feeling
That your drones may suddenly just re-appear.

Let the ships go by
They won't bother me
For there's nowhere else on Earth
That I would rather be,
Let them all go by
I don't care if I
Can just be here on the street
You just blitzed.
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Reply #57 - Feb 7th, 2024 at 10:29pm
 
australia doesnt have the ability to domestically manufacture the stuff it needs to have any viable 'defense' capacities whatsoever because input prices are too high here and probably always will be.
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Reply #58 - Feb 7th, 2024 at 10:32pm
 
JC Denton wrote on Feb 7th, 2024 at 10:29pm:
australia doesnt have the ability to domestically manufacture the stuff it needs to have any viable 'defense' capacities whatsoever because input prices are too high here and probably always will be.


Blame the Unions!!

If you want to financially succeed.
Run your own business and don't hire anyone else at all.

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Reply #59 - Feb 7th, 2024 at 10:35pm
 
Jasin wrote on Feb 7th, 2024 at 10:32pm:
JC Denton wrote on Feb 7th, 2024 at 10:29pm:
australia doesnt have the ability to domestically manufacture the stuff it needs to have any viable 'defense' capacities whatsoever because input prices are too high here and probably always will be.


Blame the Unions!!

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Run your own business and don't hire anyone else at all.



ya they are part of it but its mostly land energy and the mining sector
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