aquascoot wrote on Dec 28
th, 2023 at 9:39am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 28
th, 2023 at 9:06am:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 28
th, 2023 at 9:00am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 28
th, 2023 at 8:23am:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 28
th, 2023 at 8:05am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 28
th, 2023 at 7:12am:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 28
th, 2023 at 6:57am:
If this task was handed over to the government
We would have seen
Traffic control people spending the day putting out cones
Setting up green lights and red lights
It doesn't take much imagination to figure out what would happen if government cleanup crews did not ensure safety issues are paramount.
Those safety issues extend to workers and locals.
Spontaneous local cleanup crews are more likely to be forgiven by locals for risky procedures and minor accidents in the way formal government crews would not be.
I reject that
People with a can do attitude focus on the task at hand
People with an I don't want to do attitude focus on ticking boxes dotting eyes and crossing tees
I would back a focusing volunteer over a disengaged council worker every time
Have a think about how many laws government workers would break if they just did stuff without regard for regulated safety procedures.
It would all be fine... until it wasn't... such as in the event of an accident... Then comes the locals' complaints, demands for compensation, the council inquiry, the recriminations, the charges of negligence...
We have gone full circle
The complaining whining cry baby mentality if you did have an accident
Should be dealt with by accepting that s*** happens
You're over-estimating rural people.
Community-mindedness in rural communities is generally only extended to those within the community.
Rural people are just as capable of outrage as their urban counterparts where accidents are caused by outsiders - particularly government-employed outsiders.
Most rural people develop the skill of self-reliance
From a position of competence rural people realize that you still need to have each other's backs
Most urban people developed the skill of learned helplessness and the cry baby mentality
From a position of incompetence urban people see their fellow man as a competitor for scarce resourcesThere are literally hundreds of thousands of houses in urban areas with one inhabitant
4 bedrooms and two bathrooms
And yet the incompetent urban person refuses to take in the homeless nurse
A skilled nurse in a rural community would have no trouble finding accommodation
That’s exactly what I have come to realise years ago!
I actually remember feeling angry about it thinking the world is filling up with idiots fast!
Made me want to run and hide out in the never never far away as possible from them
So we’ve become the helpers to the helpless and we’ve become the ones to rely upon.
I must say for ages I felt like we were used… felt puzzled why some people never learnt how to be more reliant on themselves.
I think Aqua… when you write about having more personal accountability/responsibility … it’s where many won’t or are too dammed lazy.
I’ve got a friend that never learnt… her ex is a mechanic/farmer and very hard working… she was way too ladedah madam princess… delighted in spending and never learnt to survive or save or anything…
He left her…. she end up with $250K from house sale only to have spent it all within 2 years with her teens asking for money constantly….then she had nothing… we scratched our heads…. she ended up renting with her son and his partner but they wanted their own space so then she had to get rid of all that expensive furniture for peanuts so she could shrink her life down to living in a retirement village with her 80 yr old mother…. a 2 bedroom… and she’s in a single bed in a small room now.
From a 5 acre paradise and mansion built to her specifications….
Yet has she learnt anything? My mechanic hubby services her car for peanuts…. we’ve got her shipping container with some of her personal keepsakes on our property - no charge. We’ve helped her twice to shift house. Hubby wonders why her son and son in law and partners are like ghosts… nowhere to be seen.
I think what you said Aqua about good relationships is important… but even now… after all we did… she’s settled in with her aging mother and I hardly hear from her…. Whereas before she visited twice weekly for cuppa and chat.
I text her and I get no reply for days.
Her other friends are no longer in her circle and the estranged attitude is losing me too.
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