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Reply #15 - Dec 26^th, 2023 at 9:19pm

Gordon wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 7:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 4:05pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 3:52pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 2:48pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 9:50am:

Would you like to take the H2R to the end of its speedo?

I wouldn't have the guts -
the fastest I've been on a bike was on a race track and that was 200 km/hr -
that was enough for me -
I can't imagine 400 km/hr on an H2R Shocked

I've done about 260.

I'd have a go on the H2R, but I'd want some coaching and a full sized runway, and it would probably take a lot of practice to get there.

Tell ya what Bob's, if I win the 90m lotto tonight I'll buy a pair of them and rent us a runway Grin

Hi Gordon,
260 km/hr. wow - that's when we were young and foolhardy - LOL

Thanks but I'd prefer to take a Ducati Panigale V4 R for 20 laps
around Philip Island race track and then try a Yamaha YZF-R1M for another 20 laps.
I never rode a bike with top handling i.e
that could handle bumps in corners etc.

I have a friend who claims to have ridden all the equivalents of the bikes in my reply #2
and he's also ridden many top Ducatis and even on a race track where it was
hired out for the day by a club -
how much fun would that be?

You'd be into that wouldn't you?

I reckon the real world differences between any of the top line Superbikes would be lost on the likes of us.

260 was in my younger days on a Fireblade at Eastern Creek.

Yes - also most riders would never lean a bike over as far as the Grand Prix riders do -
first they don't have the skill and second they don't want to risk a crash
where they'd have to pay for the bike.

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Reply #18 - Dec 27^th, 2023 at 7:34am

Yes - very funny Geoff.

So - where did the superbike 1000cc 4 cylinder 4 strokes of today come from?
Their grandfather was the Z1 900 cc Kawasaki from the 1970s -
a marvel of engineering.
Many people don't like the modern bikes of today and would rather own a restored Z1 900.

This is the final of an 8 parts series about the restoration of one.
It looks brand new.

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Reply #19 - Dec 27^th, 2023 at 7:31pm

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 25^th, 2023 at 10:10pm:

$117k and 241km/h cafe racer; 0-100km/h approx 2.7 seconds...

Arc Vector Electric motorcycle.

1983 GPZ 1100 did 2.5 sec 0-100 around 270 top speed.

105 kph in 1st gear. 60-80 kph in top gear 1.8 seconds

A 40 year old Kawasaki is quicker no carbon fibre or titanium in that old bike.

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Reply #20 - Dec 27^th, 2023 at 7:37pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 9:19pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 7:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 4:05pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 3:52pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 2:48pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 9:50am:

Would you like to take the H2R to the end of its speedo?

I wouldn't have the guts -
the fastest I've been on a bike was on a race track and that was 200 km/hr -
that was enough for me -
I can't imagine 400 km/hr on an H2R Shocked

I've done about 260.

I'd have a go on the H2R, but I'd want some coaching and a full sized runway, and it would probably take a lot of practice to get there.

Tell ya what Bob's, if I win the 90m lotto tonight I'll buy a pair of them and rent us a runway Grin

Hi Gordon,
260 km/hr. wow - that's when we were young and foolhardy - LOL

Thanks but I'd prefer to take a Ducati Panigale V4 R for 20 laps
around Philip Island race track and then try a Yamaha YZF-R1M for another 20 laps.
I never rode a bike with top handling i.e
that could handle bumps in corners etc.

I have a friend who claims to have ridden all the equivalents of the bikes in my reply #2
and he's also ridden many top Ducatis and even on a race track where it was
hired out for the day by a club -
how much fun would that be?

You'd be into that wouldn't you?

I reckon the real world differences between any of the top line Superbikes would be lost on the likes of us.

260 was in my younger days on a Fireblade at Eastern Creek.

Yes - also most riders would never lean a bike over as far as the Grand Prix riders do -
first they don't have the skill and second they don't want to risk a crash
where they'd have to pay for the bike.

I did a few laps on GSXR 1000 around Eastern Creek modern bikes handle really well a huge improvement over old fashioned stuff. Went into turn 1 around 180-190 kph.
Engine modes tame it down with traction control anti wheelie etc pretty wild with it turned off.

You will never get the angles of lean a GP bike gets road tyres don't grip like racing slicks which only last 20-30 laps in a GP before they're worn out.

Look at the tyre wear people get most don't even get to the edge. Racers rip the edges off the tyres.

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Reply #21 - Dec 27^th, 2023 at 7:46pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 7:34am:

Yes - very funny Geoff.

So - where did the superbike 1000cc 4 cylinder 4 strokes of today come from?
Their grandfather was the Z1 900 cc Kawasaki from the 1970s -
a marvel of engineering.
Many people don't like the modern bikes of today and would rather own a restored Z1 900.

This is the final of an 8 parts series about the restoration of one.
It looks brand new.

I'd prefer one of these

https://www.kawasaki.com.au/en-au/motorcycle/w/retro-classic/w800

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Reply #22 - Dec 27^th, 2023 at 9:04pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 7:31pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 25^th, 2023 at 10:10pm:

$117k and 241km/h cafe racer; 0-100km/h approx 2.7 seconds...

Arc Vector Electric motorcycle.

1983 GPZ 1100 did 2.5 sec 0-100 around 270 top speed.

105 kph in 1st gear. 60-80 kph in top gear 1.8 seconds

A 40 year old Kawasaki is quicker no carbon fibre or titanium in that old bike.

Yes - they were very quick bikes.

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Reply #23 - Dec 27^th, 2023 at 9:07pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 7:37pm:

I did a few laps on GSXR 1000 around Eastern Creek modern bikes handle really well a huge improvement over old fashioned stuff. Went into turn 1 around 180-190 kph.
Engine modes tame it down with traction control anti wheelie etc pretty wild with it turned off.

You will never get the angles of lean a GP bike gets road tyres don't grip like racing slicks which only last 20-30 laps in a GP before they're worn out.

Look at the tyre wear people get most don't even get to the edge. Racers rip the edges off the tyres.

Look what even a 1986 500cc 2 stroke GP bike does:

A two-stroke Yamaha YZR500 makes about 190 horsepower.

https://www.roadracingworld.com/news/yamaha-gp-four-stroke-already-faster-than-y...

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Reply #24 - Dec 27^th, 2023 at 9:24pm

Gordon wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 7:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 7:34am:

Yes - very funny Geoff.

So - where did the superbike 1000cc 4 cylinder 4 strokes of today come from?
Their grandfather was the Z1 900 cc Kawasaki from the 1970s -
a marvel of engineering.
Many people don't like the modern bikes of today and would rather own a restored Z1 900.

This is the final of an 8 parts series about the restoration of one.
It looks brand new.

I'd prefer one of these

https://www.kawasaki.com.au/en-au/motorcycle/w/retro-classic/w800

You already have a nice cruising bike.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105003 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Ultimate motorbikes Reply #26 - Dec 27^th, 2023 at 9:34pm Gordon - you have a nice bike: 2012 VT750. The bikes I have mentioned are only usable on a racetrack.
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20601 Gordon Gender:	Re: Ultimate motorbikes Reply #27 - Dec 27^th, 2023 at 9:41pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 9:34pm: Gordon - you have a nice bike: 2012 VT750. https://i.ibb.co/mvnB7LJ/1.jpg The bikes I have mentioned are only usable on a racetrack. I don't want a Superbike, that Guzzi would be nice.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105003 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Ultimate motorbikes Reply #28 - Dec 27^th, 2023 at 9:43pm Gordon wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 9:41pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 9:34pm: Gordon - you have a nice bike: 2012 VT750. https://i.ibb.co/mvnB7LJ/1.jpg The bikes I have mentioned are only usable on a racetrack. I don't want a Superbike, that Guzzi would be nice. But Honda's are the best.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105003 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Ultimate motorbikes Reply #29 - Dec 29^th, 2023 at 8:19am When you think you are fast....and then Valentino Rossi passes you like a boss!! WET and COLD track
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