John Smith wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2024 at 6:04am:


Is this another one of your lies John?

John Smith wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2024 at 8:20pm:


Why do you tell so many lies John?

The only way to settle this is with Guns.
Might is right. Simple as that.

John Smith wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2024 at 8:24pm:


You cannot produce a single piece of evidence to back up your claim John.

John Smith wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 10:20am:


It is your claim John. It is up to you to back it up. All I claimed was that I had climbed it.

freediver wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 10:49am:



back it up or you're lying

Fraudiver writes
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You claimed a "secrete committee" in the govt. closed Mt. Warning.

You didn't say whether the committee was composed of whites or blacks (or both).

But my link showed black cultural beliefs of a particular group of blacks - disputed by other blacks - were the original impetus for the closure.

So the composition/existance of a government "committee" is irrelevant, in considering WHY the park was closed.   

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Addressed above; government (as opposed to a "secrete committee") was advised by the bureaucracy following black activism re cultural beliefs (true or false, the beliefs were acted on by the government).

I accept your concession.

[/quote]Are you suggesting the WCG are just a front for the government's agenda? [/quote]

No - the government's agenda was determinded by black activism.
     

Aboriginal significance
Wollumbin is a place of cultural and traditional significance to the Bundjalung people and contains sacred sites, where particular ceremonies and initiation rites are performed.[3] The summit area of the Mountain is a declared Aboriginal Place under the National Parks and Wildlife Act.[9] 

While now spelt Wollumbin, the Aboriginal word had numerous alternative spellings which are recorded in the historic record including; Walumban,[10] Walumbin,[11] and Wooloombin,[12] all referring to the same place. In 1873 reference can be found to the Mountain being referred to by Aboriginal people as "Wollumbin", signifying "big fellow mountain".[13] The Aboriginal significance of the area is contextual and dependant on direction of observance, gender, and status of whoever is telling the story.[14] Several different stories exist about Wollumbin including reference to the Mountain as the Warrior Chief,[15] a special place of significance for brush turkey,[16] and the cloud catcher.[17] Many more stories exist that are not in the public record.

Small cloud over the 'cloud catcher' on a clear day.
Small cloud over the 'cloud catcher', photographed from an aeroplane.
The name Wollumbin refers to the whole of the central vent and its surrounding ring dykes.[18]

The Bundjalung people observe cultural and traditional restrictions forbidding the uninitiated from climbing the mountain, and, as such, ask that others also do not attempt to climb the mountain.[19] The government National Parks and Wildlife Service advertise this request and do not encourage climbers to hike the Mt. Warning/Wollumbin Trail up the mountain, but it is not forbidden by park regulations.[20]

Name confusion
In 2005 the name "Mount Wollumbin" was removed from a peak nearby to Mount Warning by the Geographical Names Board. This mountain is also referred to as Mount Ivy and Mount Dum Dum and was believed to be named Mount Wollumbin in error.[21] In 2006 the Geographical Names Board assigned dual naming to Mount Warning, to also be known by its indigenous name of Wollumbin. The name Wollumbin refers the whole of the central vent and its surrounding ring dykes.[22]