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What Arabs does it belong to?

You're just a Hamas terrorist supporter.

You do realise that the Israelis & so called Palestinians have a common ancestor?

They've been there as long as any Arabs. Whatever tribe that is.

Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English, or France to the French.

M.K. Gandhi   Nov. 1938

Indeed it does - as part of a mosaic of different ethnicities and various groups of whatever - not least Jewish women taken as slave wives, rape and disempowered over the centuries and turned into walking tents..... but since the Jews held the place first (after booting out the locals who are now long gone) it's only right that they stay there... just like the Britons, the various Indian tribes, the French Algerians and Indo-Chinese etc, and all the others with long tenure.... all citizens in the modern age.

Britain belongs to the Brtitish now - not just the Britons.... same as every other country in the world... France to the French of all kinds now.....  Scotland to the Scots, who are a wide range including Black these days, and not just the Picts ......

Gandhi was quite specific about that....................... though like so many such things, many need to understand language first before commenting....

Thank you for coming.................  NEXT!!

Gnads wrote on Jan 13^th, 2024 at 7:52am:


Palestinian Arabs of course.

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If there were no illegal occupation, no decades-long dispossession, siege and horrific crimes committed against the Palestinian people, there would be no Hamas.

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Are you aware that most Israelis are not descendants of the ancient Jews of that land but rather are descendants of E. Europeans who converted to Judaism around the 8th century?

North America - ruled by Politics.
Middle-East - ruled by Military.

Netanyahu was never ever 'in charge' as a Political representative. The Israeli Military always have the last word, not the Prime Minister.

The 'Empire' of Islam is falling and will fall for good once they get their Gay Messiah from France to die for their Moslem sins.
The Empire of Israel is rising! The World demands the 'true' Military Empire to rise.

Judaism - Fall from Religion, Rise for Military.
Mohommedism - Fall from Military, Rise for Religion.

Tough luck Wombatwoody - that's the way it goes, wether you like it or not. 

PS: kiss my Jewish arse! 

The Military rules the Military in Israel.
Even the religious zealots and orthodox extremists get their butts kicked by the Military.
Often these extreme Religious Jews try to exploit the Military to get their wicked religious ways against Moslems - but the Israel Military don't buy into it and stay as diplomatic to Palestine as they can.
Many times, these Jewish 'religious fanatics', come into confrontation with the Israeli Military when they don't get their own way against Moslems.

Jasin wrote on Jan 15^th, 2024 at 7:31pm:


No, that's not the case.

From Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel by Israel Shahak and Norton Mezvinsky, Chapter Six, The Real Significance of Baruch Goldstein:

The story of the massacre committed by Baruch Goldstein in the Patriarchs' Cave in Hebron on February 25, 1994, is well known. Goldstein entered the Muslim prayer hall and shot worshippers mostly in their backs, killing 29, including children, and wounding many more... Goldstein as an army physician repeatedly breached army discipline by refusing to treat Arabs, even those serving in the Israeli army. He was not punished, either while in active or reserve service, for his refusal because of intervention in his favor.

Amir Oren, who subsequently became the military correspondent of Haaretz, wrote...

In the end the issue of what to do with an officer who openly refused to obey orders by invoking Halacha has never been resolved, even if that officer openly refused to provide medical help both to Israeli soldiers and POWS. Can we avoid being stunned by the army's failure to court-martial Goldstein? Why was no order to court-martial him ever issued by the entire chain of the army command? That chain of command included the commander of the northern command, Reserve General Orri Or [a Labor MK and later in 1994 the chairman of the Knesset Committee for Foreign and Defense Affairs], and General Amos Yaron, who now is the commander of the manpower department. Why did they refuse to decide without first consulting the chief rabbi? The already embarrassed medical corps [commanders] now [after the massacre] admit that they were scared by publicity that might have propelled the religious parties and religious settlers' lobbies to make things more of a mess than ever before. The fear of publicity time after time prompted the army commanders to give in to all kinds of Goldsteins, rather than to denounce their views and court-martial them.

Many sources corroborated Oren's hinting that this Goldstein situation did not constitute a unique case. The story told by Oren revealed the pervasiveness of the religious parties' influence in the Israeli army. Jewish orthodoxy's stance against non-Jews, as openly advocated by Goldstein's idolized leader, Rabbi Meir Kahane, was—and still is—an essential position held by the major religious parties. As such, this stance has had a strong impact upon the Israeli army. Had Rabin and the army commanders mentioned by Oren, moreover, felt no affinity whatsoever with Kahane's and Goldstein's views, they would not have given in to the religious parties with such abandon and thus sacrificed all consideration of military discipline. Israeli policies, directed towards Palestinians, other Middle East Arabs (perceived by Zionists as non-Jews) and people of other nations, are only explainable by assuming that they are based upon anti-Gentile feeling.