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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 45888 Gender:	Re: Gough Whitlam- does anyone remember him? Reply #60 - Jan 15^th, 2024 at 8:01am If you don’t want people to call you idiot, Booby, then don’t act like an idiot.
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 103049 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Gough Whitlam- does anyone remember him? Reply #61 - Jan 15^th, 2024 at 8:04am Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 15^th, 2024 at 8:01am: If you don’t want people to call you idiot, Booby, then don’t act like an idiot. Shut up idiot.
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Agnes.. Moderator Offline Porco Rosso Posts: 426 Gender:	Re: Gough Whitlam- does anyone remember him? Reply #62 - Jan 15^th, 2024 at 8:14am you do realise that I am the mod here Bob? You really are acting up?
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Agnes.. Moderator Offline Porco Rosso Posts: 426 Gender:	Re: Gough Whitlam- does anyone remember him? Reply #63 - Jan 15^th, 2024 at 8:19am a one day ban for anyone acting up and ruining Mr Whitlams topic.-
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Re: Gough Whitlam- does anyone remember him?
Reply #64 - Jan 15^th, 2024 at 10:26am

Jasin wrote on Jan 15^th, 2024 at 1:45am:

He must be like Trump.

OK, maybe not just like Trump... But he was a lot like Trump.

Whitlam was 6 foot 4... Trump is 6 foot 2.

Both were uber populists.

Both had a massive personal presence (although most leading politicians do).

Both were gifted with truckloads of natural charisma.

Both promised radical social change.

Both had an imperious style of governing... preferring to rule by decree.

Both initiated a radical and idiosyncratic political agenda.

Both triggered constitutional crises towards the end of their tenures.

Both left office under a cloud.

Both radically changed the way their respective nations think of themselves - as Keating said of Whitlam, 'There was an Australia before Whitlam and a different Australia after' - the same could be said of Trump.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47391 Gender:	Re: Gough Whitlam- does anyone remember him? Reply #65 - Jan 15^th, 2024 at 11:55am At least MeisterEckhardt gets it. (Peccary must be choking by now )
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Re: Gough Whitlam- does anyone remember him?
Reply #66 - Jan 15^th, 2024 at 10:32pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 15^th, 2024 at 10:26am:

Jasin wrote on Jan 15^th, 2024 at 1:45am:

He must be like Trump.

OK, maybe not just like Trump... But he was a lot like Trump.

Whitlam was 6 foot 4... Trump is 6 foot 2.

Both were uber populists.

Both had a massive personal presence (although most leading politicians do).

Both were gifted with truckloads of natural charisma.

Both promised radical social change.

Both had an imperious style of governing... preferring to rule by decree.

Both initiated a radical and idiosyncratic political agenda.

Both triggered constitutional crises towards the end of their tenures.

Both left office under a cloud.

Both radically changed the way their respective nations think of themselves - as Keating said of Whitlam, 'There was an Australia before Whitlam and a different Australia after' - the same could be said of Trump.

And, of course, both Whitlam and Trump left office having split their respective nations in half.

In Whitlam's case, his legacy has been rehabilitated... Trump's legacy will probably remain contentious and bitter, as Nixon's has.

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Re: Gough Whitlam- does anyone remember him?
Reply #67 - Jan 15^th, 2024 at 11:18pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 15^th, 2024 at 1:45am:

He must be like Trump.
Gough is considered the biggest BUFFOON in Australian Political history besides Harold Holt (another loser!)...

Once again JaSin gets things totally wrong. It seems
to be a habit of his across many and varied fields of
knowledge LOL.

Highest Nielsen Poll popularity ratings for each Australian prime minister since 1972:

Bob Hawke – 75% (November 1984)
Kevin Rudd – 74%[11] (March 2009)
John Howard – 67% (January 2005)

Gough Whitlam – 62% (February 1973)
Malcolm Fraser – 56% (April 1976 and May 1978)
Julia Gillard – 56% (July 2010)

Tony Abbott – 47% (November 2013)
Paul Keating – 40% (November 1994)
William McMahon – 34% (November 1972)

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47391 Gender:	Re: Gough Whitlam- does anyone remember him? Reply #68 - Jan 16^th, 2024 at 1:06am Gough was tough until he hit the rough. Uncle Sam and John were quite enough.
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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11869 Gender:	Re: Gough Whitlam- does anyone remember him? Reply #69 - Jan 16^th, 2024 at 6:49am The best comparison between Whitlam and a US president, in terms of personality and motivation, would be Roosevelt (FDR).
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Re: Gough Whitlam- does anyone remember him?
Reply #70 - Jan 16^th, 2024 at 11:10am

Agnes.. wrote on Jan 15^th, 2024 at 8:19am:

a one day ban for anyone acting up and ruining Mr Whitlams topic.-

Ban Monk for a day as well.

It's not "Mr Whitlams" topic

It's your topic about Whitlam.

He was also a contributor to West Papua & it Melanesian people being put under the Colonial boot of Indonesia in 1965.

They've been shooting West Papuans ever since.

Good one Gough. Roll Eyes

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Agnes.. Moderator Offline Porco Rosso Posts: 426 Gender:	Re: Gough Whitlam- does anyone remember him? Reply #71 - Jan 16^th, 2024 at 3:32pm To me he IS Mr Whitlam--oh yes of course I will ban Monk ( to suit you)..!
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Re: Gough Whitlam- does anyone remember him?
Reply #72 - Jan 16^th, 2024 at 4:40pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 15^th, 2024 at 10:26am:

Jasin wrote on Jan 15^th, 2024 at 1:45am:

He must be like Trump.

OK, maybe not just like Trump... But he was a lot like Trump.

Whitlam was 6 foot 4... Trump is 6 foot 2.

Both were uber populists.

Both had a massive personal presence (although most leading politicians do).

Both were gifted with truckloads of natural charisma.

Both promised radical social change.

Both had an imperious style of governing... preferring to rule by decree.

Both initiated a radical and idiosyncratic political agenda.

Both triggered constitutional crises towards the end of their tenures.

Both left office under a cloud.

Both radically changed the way their respective nations think of themselves - as Keating said of Whitlam, 'There was an Australia before Whitlam and a different Australia after' - the same could be said of Trump.

Both weren't rapists who stole money from kids' cancer charities though.

Only Trump is a rapist who stole money from kids' cancer charities.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47391 Gender:	Re: Gough Whitlam- does anyone remember him? Reply #73 - Jan 16^th, 2024 at 5:08pm Gough was very charitable while cruising the Newtown 'Wall' for his 'boys'.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58141 Here Gender:	Re: Gough Whitlam- does anyone remember him? Reply #74 - Jan 16^th, 2024 at 6:16pm Jasin wrote on Jan 16^th, 2024 at 5:08pm: Gough was very charitable while cruising the Newtown 'Wall' for his 'boys'. Newtown 'Wall' for his 'boys'. [/quote] Quote: cruising the Newtown 'Wall' for his 'boys'. No such thing. Normally expect 100% garbage but this time you managed 200 % GARBAGE.
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