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Gough Whitlam- does anyone remember him?
Jan 10th, 2024 at 3:57pm
 
He was the best PM Australia ever had I have heard.

My father loved him but never spoke of him much to me- does anyone know about this legendary person?
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Why Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave !!
 
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Reply #1 - Jan 10th, 2024 at 4:24pm
 
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Why Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave !!
 
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Reply #2 - Jan 10th, 2024 at 4:32pm
 

Remember him very well.

My late wife's father was part of the Whitlam government.

He was a regular visitor to her house when she was a child.

Great, great man.

We have Medicare (which started out as Medibank, under Whitlam) thanks to Gough.

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Reply #3 - Jan 10th, 2024 at 5:21pm
 
I saw Gough a couple times at Labor Conventions (or whatever they were called.)

Always started with “Comrades”  Grin

Very good speaker, believed in the cause.

So much work to do after all those years of Liberal sloth. None of his Ministers had experience of being a Cabinet Minister, mistakes, inevitably got made. Murdoch press after him.

A giant pulled down by pygmies.
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Reply #4 - Jan 10th, 2024 at 7:03pm
 

A great speaker, articulate and quick-witted, who
could deliver the goods.   Unfortunately, I think, he
tried to introduce too many fresh notions, too quickly,
to a citizenry steeped in the ultra-conservative 1950's
Liberal quagmire.

And Kerr's reprehensible suck-holing to the queen
of another country was beyond the pale.  And this,
now all these years later, is why we need to become
a republic, give the current Governor General the
flick, and constitutionally remove any references citing
king Charles III as our purported "head of state".

Remember too that the CIA offered the opposition
Liberal and National party unlimited funding to help
them defeat Whitlam's Labor Party in the 1974 elections.

Sadly Gough was a man almost ahead of his time
and his ideas.  If he and his government had survived
Kerr's indefensible actions at the time, there's every
chance Australia would be a better place today—and
also probably an independent republic, presided over
by an executive Federal council.

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Reply #5 - Jan 10th, 2024 at 7:36pm
 
I do remember him!
Once I was walking down Elizabeth street towards train station after work….and it’s when something happened to Gough … maybe when he was booted out… but a lot of Uni students were matching with placards down middle of street chanting “We want Gough”
I was about 21 at the time… so it was ‘74/‘75….

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Reply #6 - Jan 10th, 2024 at 8:28pm
 
Achieved more in three years than other PMs did in a dozen. Probably the best of my lifetime.

He was the first leader killed by news ltd.

His free education - educated 2 generations and built our economy.

Ironically he had educated for free the very people who have taken free education away from today's students.
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AusGeoff wrote on Jan 10th, 2024 at 7:03pm:
A great speaker, articulate and quick-witted, who
could deliver the goods.   Unfortunately, I think, he
tried to introduce too many fresh notions, too quickly,
to a citizenry steeped in the ultra-conservative 1950's
Liberal quagmire.

And Kerr's reprehensible suck-holing to the queen
of another country was beyond the pale.  And this,
now all these years later, is why we need to become
a republic, give the current Governor General the
flick, and constitutionally remove any references citing
king Charles III as our purported "head of state".

Remember too that the CIA offered the opposition
Liberal and National party unlimited funding to help
them defeat Whitlam's Labor Party in the 1974 elections.

Sadly Gough was a man almost ahead of his time
and his ideas.  If he and his government had survived
Kerr's indefensible actions at the time, there's every
chance Australia would be a better place today—and
also probably an independent republic, presided over
by an executive Federal council.



Cheesy
Is there ANYTHING that is not "ultra" in your world, Guff?

You are your own parody.

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Reply #8 - Jan 10th, 2024 at 10:01pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 10th, 2024 at 8:28pm:
Achieved more in three years than other PMs did in a dozen. Probably the best of my lifetime.

He was the first leader killed by news ltd.

His free education - educated 2 generations and built our economy.

Ironically he had educated for free the very people who have taken free education away from today's students.

Yeah, he gifted free education to the children of the upper class.

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Reply #9 - Jan 10th, 2024 at 10:24pm
 
Gough was equivalent to a breath of fresh air, politically.  He was the greatest PM Australia has ever had.   Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #10 - Jan 11th, 2024 at 3:17am
 
I have heard that Brian and so many positive replies tells me he impressed many here..
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Why Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave !!
 
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Reply #11 - Jan 11th, 2024 at 8:07pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2024 at 9:59pm:
AusGeoff wrote on Jan 10th, 2024 at 7:03pm:
A great speaker, articulate and quick-witted, who
could deliver the goods.   Unfortunately, I think, he
tried to introduce too many fresh notions, too quickly,
to a citizenry steeped in the ultra-conservative 1950's
Liberal quagmire.

Is there ANYTHING that is not "ultra" in your world, Guff?

You are your own parody.

Judging by this comment Frank, it's more than obvious
you didn't live through the conservative Menzies era of
the 1950s to the mid-1960s.

Menzies said of the 1963 Queen's visit to Australia:

"I did but see her passing by, yet I shall love her till I die".

This was typical of the Liberal lapdogs' kowtowing to the
United Kingdom in general and the monarch of another
country in particular.  And this squeamish conservatism
infested our society at all levels of government and the
wider society.

Hanging was still on the statutes; shops had to close on
Sundays; homosexuality was a criminal offence, as was
abortion; we had to stand in film theatres for the National
Anthem; the White Australia Policy was in full force;  Aboriginals
could not vote; the Communist Party was banned;  female
employees were paid far less than their male counterparts;
female nipples were airbrushed out of men's magazines,
and women's weekly magazines invariably included pictures
of the royal family, amongst the knitting patterns;  men
had to wear a tie to the office, and if wearing braces had to
leave a jacket on;  beach inspectors actually measured
women's bikinis to make sure they complied with the legal
minimum coverage.

     A beach inspector at Bondi Beach NSW points out that
     the dark bikini contravenes minimum legal size.

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Reply #12 - Jan 11th, 2024 at 8:09pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2024 at 10:01pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 10th, 2024 at 8:28pm:
Achieved more in three years than other PMs did in a dozen. Probably the best of my lifetime.

He was the first leader killed by news ltd.

His free education - educated 2 generations and built our economy.

Ironically he had educated for free the very people who have taken free education away from today's students.

Yeah, he gifted free education to the children of the upper class.



Fank always says the opposite to what happened. For the first time all Australians had access to education.
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Reply #13 - Jan 11th, 2024 at 8:16pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 11th, 2024 at 8:09pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2024 at 10:01pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 10th, 2024 at 8:28pm:
Achieved more in three years than other PMs did in a dozen. Probably the best of my lifetime.

He was the first leader killed by news ltd.

His free education - educated 2 generations and built our economy.

Ironically he had educated for free the very people who have taken free education away from today's students.

Yeah, he gifted free education to the children of the upper class.



Fank always says the opposite to what happened. For the first time all Australians had access to education.




Bullshit ... they always did ... it's just that it wasn't free.

But you tell me now after successive LNP & ALP govts.... is education free?

Why under Rudd, Gillard, Rudd didn't they repeal the LNPs policies & reinstate Goughs, that provided free education, including University to all Australians if they applied themselves & wanted it?
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Reply #14 - Jan 11th, 2024 at 8:49pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jan 11th, 2024 at 8:16pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 11th, 2024 at 8:09pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2024 at 10:01pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 10th, 2024 at 8:28pm:
Achieved more in three years than other PMs did in a dozen. Probably the best of my lifetime.

He was the first leader killed by news ltd.

His free education - educated 2 generations and built our economy.

Ironically he had educated for free the very people who have taken free education away from today's students.

Yeah, he gifted free education to the children of the upper class.



Fank always says the opposite to what happened. For the first time all Australians had access to education.




Bullshit ... they always did ... it's just that it wasn't free.

But you tell me now after successive LNP & ALP govts.... is education free?

Why under Rudd, Gillard, Rudd didn't they repeal the LNPs policies & reinstate Goughs, that provided free education, including University to all Australians if they applied themselves & wanted it?


Through the late 60's early 70's normal working families mostly could not send their children to UNI, it was reserved for the wealthy. It was very rare for working class children. After Whitlam it became fairly common.
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