Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 17
th, 2024 at 7:20pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 20
th, 2024 at 1:56pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20
th, 2024 at 1:36pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 20
th, 2024 at 1:12pm:
But deduded 'natural individiual rights' minds like yours are making good governance near impossible; wars, ecological collapse, inequality and entrenched poverty around the globe are reaching catastrophic levels.
Modern political systems where individual rights are not recognised are collapsing.
Why is that?
1. you need to differentiate global emergencies (eg ecological, war), from national social breakdown.
2. China is demonstrably more internally stable than the US (where serious commentators are concerned about the possibility of civil war); but even so, a
sense of fairness for all - not just for the most advantaged - is needed to create good government engendering universal prosperity, in ALL nations.
National social breakdown works toward the generation of wars
??
WW1 was caused by a breakdown of diplomacy between nations competing for empire, with stable social conditions at home.
Quote:for the simple reason...
It wasn't simple, the geopolitical forces were complex...
Quote:...that 'others' (non-inclusive/not included Mk I) will perceive wrongly that their time has come to strike down the unbeliever using their personal sovereign choices in the matter.
"Clash of civilizations"? (The Iranians hated the US when the US gave sanctuary to the despised deposed Shah).
Quote: Ecologically the ideology has stumbled along now for several decades without a single result.
I have ecological breakdown caused by economics as usual in mind (and if the climate scientists are correct....).
Quote:China IS demonstrably more stable - if you misbehave it's a bullet to the back of the head with the bill sent to your family, and your body parts harvested for organ donation.
"Misbehave" ....by calling for the overthrow of the nation's government?
You could choose to get a life, and prosper under the one-party 'socialist' government, rather than emulate the deluded "freedom" ideologues in the US, rioting in the nation's Capitol trying to overturn the election results.
Quote:Ah - the benefits of surrendering your personal choices and personal sovereignty and rights to government
Yes they are considerable as outlined above, so long as the government sees engendering common prosperity as its task.
Quote: Hitler and Stalin etc would have been proud. Just think of the possibilities had my cardio gone ahead with heart transplant.... he thought I was worth it..... using my personal sovereignty I said it should, if necessary, go to someone younger and more deserving - IF it came to that.... but that's just me....
H and S had international domination in mind; the CCP isn't interested in exporting China's system of government.
Quote:So you would be content with a sense of fairness?
I certainly call for the eradication of poverty and war....fair?
Quote: Easy .... we can give you a sense of fairness any time .... now for genuine fairness we need to exclude Inclusion™ etc... but you don't need to know about that while we mushroom you ....
You are one confused bunny: inclusion means establishing universal above-poverty participation (whether trannies can get special acknowledgement on their birth certificates or not).
Simplistic..... if only it were that simple ... back to school son - you need a year's remedial at Ardknox.