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Re: Terrorist groups should be banned
Reply #105 - Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 4:57pm

Setanta wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 4:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 4:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 3:00pm:

John Smith said that the Palestinians are illegally occupying Palestine.

No I didn't. My response was to what was actually said, not what you pretended was said. keep trying

Yes, you did, and you also said the IDF are Christians. Early onset dementia?

Again, I didn't , thats why for days you were unable to quote me saying it.

You'll have dementia long before me dumbarse Cheesy

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Re: Terrorist groups should be banned
Reply #106 - Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 4:59pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 4:57pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 4:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 4:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 3:00pm:

John Smith said that the Palestinians are illegally occupying Palestine.

No I didn't. My response was to what was actually said, not what you pretended was said. keep trying

Yes, you did, and you also said the IDF are Christians. Early onset dementia?

Again, I didn't , thats why for days you were unable to quote me saying it.

You'll have dementia long before me dumbarse Cheesy

I quoted you saying it. I guess you make the same new friends every day with your memory.

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Re: Terrorist groups should be banned
Reply #107 - Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 5:13pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 20^th, 2024 at 9:12pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 20^th, 2024 at 8:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 20^th, 2024 at 8:01pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 20^th, 2024 at 4:43pm:

I don't think the Palestinians are illegally occupying Palestine.

That's because you're an idiot.

Do you think they are John?

Absolutely they are

John have you forgotten posting this already?

And then trying to blame me?

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Re: Terrorist groups should be banned
Reply #108 - Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 5:31pm

freediver wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 5:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 20^th, 2024 at 9:12pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 20^th, 2024 at 8:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 20^th, 2024 at 8:01pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 20^th, 2024 at 4:43pm:

I don't think the Palestinians are illegally occupying Palestine.

That's because you're an idiot.

Do you think they are John?

Absolutely they are

John have you forgotten posting this already?

And then trying to blame me?

Person1: The sky is blue!
Idiot: No! It's green!
Person1: How can you say the sky is green?
Idiot: I never said the sky was green, I was talking about the tree.

No point debating the village idiot but it is fun watching him rationalise.

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Re: Terrorist groups should be banned
Reply #109 - Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 5:31pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 17^th, 2024 at 8:24pm:

Many Islamic countries designate groups like the muslim brotherhood and Hizb ut tahrir as terrorist groups and ban them.

Hamas is linked to the muslim brotherhood and considered terrorists.

Islamic countries can ban these terrorist groups so when are our politicians going to grow a backbone and do the same?

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Fatwa saying Hamas are terrorists which makes it easy to identify terrorist supporters who should be deported.

Australia has listed Hamas as a terrorist organisation???

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Australia has listed Hamas as a terrorist organisation, and it is also a designated entity subject to counter-terrorism financing sanctions under the Australian sanctions law. It is a criminal offence to fund listed terrorist organisations, either directly or indirectly. It is also a criminal offence for a person to provide or collect funds, where that person knows or is reckless to the fact that the funds will be used to facilitate or engage in a terrorist act.

Hamas supporters should be deported if they are found to be plotting against Australia....I am sure the AFP and local police are monitoring these protests and those that attend!!!

Huh

https://www.dfat.gov.au/crisis-hub/hamas-israel-conflict

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Reply #110 - Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 6:27pm

freediver wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 3:00pm:

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Please clarify....

John Smith said that the Palestinians are illegally occupying Palestine. He appears to have realised he posted something stupid again and is trying to blame me for tricking him into saying it.

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Fact: Israel is illegally occupying land defined in UN res 242 as 'Palestine'.

How would the borders change under resolution 242?

The border through Jerusalem, for starters:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_of_Jerusalem

"Following the Six-Day War of 1967, Israel declared that Israeli law would be applied to East Jerusalem and enlarged its eastern boundaries, approximately doubling its size. The action was deemed unlawful by other states who did not recognize it. It was condemned by the UN Security Council and General Assembly which described it as an annexation and a violation of the rights of the Palestinian population."

UN res 242 was adopted by the UN immediately after the 1967 war.

Then there's the matter of the 'swiss cheese' appearance of the WB, re internal virtual borders around illegal settlements in the WB, and connections to Israel.

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How exactly do you make the leap to calling them terrorists, other than "blame the Jews" for the terrorism committed against them?

Other than?

If a state (Israel) refuses to implement international law, then it must bear responsibilty for the terrorism directed against it from the agrieved party, given the opposing ideologies involved.

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Re: Terrorist groups should be banned
Reply #111 - Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 6:31pm

Do you have a map showing how the borders should be moved?

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If a state (Israel) refuses to implement international law, then it must bear responsibilty for the terrorism

Can you explain how you make the leap from blaming the Jews for the acts of terrorism committed by the Muslims against them, to the Jews actually being the terrorists?

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 16610 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Terrorist groups should be banned Reply #112 - Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 6:36pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 6:27pm: If a state (Israel) refuses to implement international law, then it must bear responsibilty for the terrorism directed against it from the agrieved party, given the opposing ideologies involved. Like China and the Uighurs?
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Re: Terrorist groups should be banned
Reply #113 - Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 6:43pm

Setanta wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 6:36pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 6:27pm:

If a state (Israel) refuses to implement international law, then it must bear responsibilty for the terrorism directed against it from the agrieved party, given the opposing ideologies involved.

Like China and the Uighurs?

I doubt it. There aren't many Jews in China.

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Re: Terrorist groups should be banned
Reply #114 - Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 6:47pm

freediver wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 6:43pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 6:36pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 6:27pm:

If a state (Israel) refuses to implement international law, then it must bear responsibilty for the terrorism directed against it from the agrieved party, given the opposing ideologies involved.

Like China and the Uighurs?

I doubt it. There aren't many Jews in China.

I was more going on the "state" thing rather than the parentheses(Israel). In that case the state would be China and it's human rights violations. Perhaps Xinjang needs UN peacekeepers.

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Re: Terrorist groups should be banned
Reply #115 - Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 6:55pm

freediver wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 6:31pm:

Do you have a map showing how the borders should be moved?

Not necessary: google the map identifying the borders of the proposed Palestine Partition in UN181 (in 1947).

That's what shouid have been established, with security guaranteed by the UN......but your 'national sovereignty' delusion - with veto - crippled the UN's law-making capacity from the start.

I want to end the cycle of violence.

So does Biden.

Netanyahu's plan begets more terrorism.

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Can you explain how you make the leap from blaming the Jews for the acts of terrorism committed by the Muslims against them, to the Jews actually being the terrorists?

You don't understand retaliation?

Jews started committing terrorist acts in Palestine - even against the British, before the unilateral proclamation of Israel, but after it as well.

It's been tit for tat ever since.

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Re: Terrorist groups should be banned
Reply #116 - Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 7:54pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 6:55pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 6:31pm:

Do you have a map showing how the borders should be moved?

Not necessary: google the map identifying the borders of the proposed Palestine Partition in UN181 (in 1947).

That's what shouid have been established, with security guaranteed by the UN......but your 'national sovereignty' delusion - with veto - crippled the UN's law-making capacity from the start.

I want to end the cycle of violence.

So does Biden.

Netanyahu's plan begets more terrorism.

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Can you explain how you make the leap from blaming the Jews for the acts of terrorism committed by the Muslims against them, to the Jews actually being the terrorists?

You don't understand retaliation?

Jews started committing terrorist acts in Palestine - even against the British, before the unilateral proclamation of Israel, but after it as well.

It's been tit for tat ever since.

Can you explain to me good and bad retaliation? My Chinese DiL told me all Uighurs were terrorists and should be killed. I wonder where she learned that?

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Re: Terrorist groups should be banned
Reply #117 - Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 9:15pm

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Not necessary: google the map identifying the borders of the proposed Palestine Partition in UN181 (in 1947).

Obviously I did that or I wouldn't be asking. I could not get any clarity on it.

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You don't understand retaliation?

I do not understand the logical leap you make from blaming Jews for the acts of terrorism committed against them by Muslims (while it is pathetic and inhuman, I at least know what you are trying to say there) to saying that the Jews are the actual terrorists.

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Re: Terrorist groups should be banned
Reply #118 - Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 9:20pm

freediver wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 5:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 20^th, 2024 at 9:12pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 20^th, 2024 at 8:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 20^th, 2024 at 8:01pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 20^th, 2024 at 4:43pm:

I don't think the Palestinians are illegally occupying Palestine.

That's because you're an idiot.

Do you think they are John?

Absolutely they are

John have you forgotten posting this already?

And then trying to blame me?

Yes dumbarse, and I already told you that I'm not interested in your games. The topic was isreali's illegally living in palestian territory, only a cretin would think he was actually claiming Palestinians were living illegally in Palestinian territory.

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Re: Terrorist groups should be banned
Reply #119 - Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 9:21pm

Setanta wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 4:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 4:57pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 4:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 4:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 3:00pm:

John Smith said that the Palestinians are illegally occupying Palestine.

No I didn't. My response was to what was actually said, not what you pretended was said. keep trying

Yes, you did, and you also said the IDF are Christians. Early onset dementia?

Again, I didn't , thats why for days you were unable to quote me saying it.

You'll have dementia long before me dumbarse Cheesy

I quoted you saying it. I guess you make the same new friends every day with your memory.

You quoted no such thing . You should stay off the vb.

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