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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40641 Gender:	the murderous extreme rigth Jan 21^st, 2024 at 2:37am have a google I'll change my signature they are sick and should be banned
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Reply #1 - Jan 21^st, 2024 at 6:54am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 21^st, 2024 at 2:37am:

have a google

I'll change my signature
they are sick and should be banned

The Anti-Defamation League (ADL), formerly known as the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith,[a] is a New York-based international Jewish non-governmental organization and advocacy group[4][5] that specializes in civil rights law and combatting antisemitism and extremism.

Right-wing groups and pundits, including right-wing Jewish groups, have criticized ADL as having moved too far to the left under Jonathan Greenblatt, labeling it a "Democratic Party auxiliary".

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47295 Gender:	Re: the murderous extreme rigth Reply #2 - Jan 21^st, 2024 at 8:36am Frank just swatted you Sprinty. What have you got left in your hand or will you just fold? Am proud to be Jewish.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47295 Gender:	Re: the murderous extreme rigth Reply #3 - Jan 21^st, 2024 at 8:38am FD, VIC or SET - can you please move this to the Extremism Board? Cheers.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40641 Gender:	Re: the murderous extreme rigth Reply #4 - Jan 21^st, 2024 at 9:50am Jasin wrote on Jan 21^st, 2024 at 8:36am: Frank just swatted you Sprinty. What have you got left in your hand or will you just fold? Am proud to be Jewish. Good on you for being a proud Jew
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Reply #5 - Jan 21^st, 2024 at 9:52am

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....... ......... All the extremist-related murders in 2022 were committed by right-wing extremists of various kinds, who typically commit most such killings each year but only occasionally are responsible for all (the last time this occurred was 2012) ............... ..........

https://www.adl.org/resources/report/murder-and-extremism-united-states-2022

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Reply #6 - Jan 21^st, 2024 at 9:53am

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.......... the far-right has consistently been higher than the far-left. .........

google it,

' .......... Far-left versus Far-right Fatal Violence

Criminology, Criminal Justice, Law & Society
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The right in US are violent, even by american standards

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40641 Gender:	Re: the murderous extreme rigth Reply #7 - Jan 21^st, 2024 at 9:55am Quote: .......... and the murders by the right have surged by over 300% in the last 5 years ........ https://www.visionofhumanity.org/far-right-attacks-in-the-west-surge-by-320-per-...
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Reply #8 - Jan 21^st, 2024 at 10:19am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 21^st, 2024 at 9:55am:

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.......... and the murders by the right have surged by over 300% in the last 5 years ........

https://www.visionofhumanity.org/far-right-attacks-in-the-west-surge-by-320-per-...

This article doesn't say what is far-right or far-left. How you classify these things determines the count. Is Islamic terrorism far-right or far left or something else? BLM? Antifa? Eco terrorism? Narco terrorism?

In my view, the months of BLM and Antifa lawlessness, eco terrorism, Islamic terrorism in recent years have far outweighed anything far-right. Even the Christchurch shooter didn't see himself as 'far-right'.

Another link from your site:
The term, ‘far-right’, refers to any political ideology that is centred on one or more of the following elements:

strident nationalism
usually racial or exclusivist in some fashion
fascism
racism
anti-Semitism
anti-immigration
chauvinism
nativism
xenophobia

Racism, racial exclusivism, chauvinism, anti-semitism, xenophobia - these are very strong and significant elements of black and Muslim ideologies.

When does nationalism or patriotism become 'strident'? This is a very tendentious label, 'strident nationalism' as is 'nativism'.
Anti-immigration - a very broad term. Everyone, or almost everyone is against uncontrolled, unlimited immigration. Does that make almost everyone 'far right'? For the lefty media pundits, and social media hordes of pwogwessives - yes. ANY control of immigration from the third world, especially of illegal third world immigration, is automatically labelled 'controversial and far-right' by them.

When almost anyone the left disagrees with can be called 'fascist', that label is also near-meaningless. Look at the logo for the Federal Politics board on this site: it has Abbott with a hitler moustache. Ridiculous and frivolous.

Is this any more serious:

Could Taylor Swift stop the rise of the far right in Europe?

No. This is morons talking down to what they take to be the 'stupefied masses' whom they imagine to be even stupider than themselves.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 94975 Gender:	Re: the murderous extreme rigth Reply #9 - Jan 21^st, 2024 at 2:13pm Jasin wrote on Jan 21^st, 2024 at 8:36am: Frank just swatted you Sprinty. What have you got left in your hand or will you just fold? Am proud to be Jewish. Jewish, are you?
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 94975 Gender:	Re: the murderous extreme rigth Reply #10 - Jan 21^st, 2024 at 2:16pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 21^st, 2024 at 2:37am: have a google I'll change my signature they are sick and should be banned Change your signature? You don't think it might help to change your mind first?
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Reply #11 - Feb 13^th, 2024 at 8:24am

Two armed, off-duty law enforcement officers stopped a "woman" toting a gun emblazoned with “Free Palestine” from shooting up televangelist Joel Osteen’s Houston megachurch on Sunday.

Genessee Ivonne Moreno, 36, entered celebrity-pastor Joel Osteen’s Lakewood Church in Texas on Sunday afternoon accompanied by a child, firing as many as twelve shots. Off-duty officers quickly struck and killed Moreno, who the Houston Police Department says shot and injured one Lakewood parishioner. The child, a boy believed to be younger than five, was also injured.

Originally from El Salvador, Moreno was born as a biological male under the name Jeffrey Escalante, Fox News reported on Monday. The shooter had a criminal history, including the assault of a police officer in 2009.

Harris County judge Lina Hidalgo asked investigators to treat Sunday’s shooting as a potential hate crime as the shooting happened during Lakewood’s all-Spanish service.

Needless to say:
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Will be classified as a white supremacist right winger.

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Reply #12 - Feb 13^th, 2024 at 9:44am

Frank wrote on Feb 13^th, 2024 at 8:24am:

Two armed, off-duty law enforcement officers stopped a "woman" toting a gun emblazoned with “Free Palestine” from shooting up televangelist Joel Osteen’s Houston megachurch on Sunday.

Genessee Ivonne Moreno, 36, entered celebrity-pastor Joel Osteen’s Lakewood Church in Texas on Sunday afternoon accompanied by a child, firing as many as twelve shots. Off-duty officers quickly struck and killed Moreno, who the Houston Police Department says shot and injured one Lakewood parishioner. The child, a boy believed to be younger than five, was also injured.

Originally from El Salvador, Moreno was born as a biological male under the name Jeffrey Escalante, Fox News reported on Monday. The shooter had a criminal history, including the assault of a police officer in 2009.

Harris County judge Lina Hidalgo asked investigators to treat Sunday’s shooting as a potential hate crime as the shooting happened during Lakewood’s all-Spanish service.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGJcEMPWoAAI_kv?.jpg

Needless to say:
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Not female
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Will be classified as a white supremacist right winger.

Indeed. These facts were not mentioned on the news last night. Roll Eyes

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Reply #13 - Feb 13^th, 2024 at 9:54am

In the US, Hispanics are increasingly identifying and being categorised as white, as are East and Southeast Asians.

With colour categorisation becoming an indicator of socioeconomic status in the US, as opposed to ethnicity, the ultimate irony will be when subcontinental Indians in the US are also categorized as white - shades of Apartheid South Africa's conferring 'honourary white' status on visiting non-South African coloured people.

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Reply #14 - Feb 13^th, 2024 at 10:36am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 13^th, 2024 at 9:54am:

In the US, Hispanics are increasingly identifying and being categorised as white, as are East and Southeast Asians.

With colour categorisation becoming an indicator of socioeconomic status in the US, as opposed to ethnicity, the ultimate irony will be when subcontinental Indians in the US are also categorized as white - shades of Apartheid South Africa's conferring 'honourary white' status on visiting non-South African coloured people.

The whole identity wheeze is fraudulent and stupid.

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