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Re: Drug overdose deaths outnumber gun deaths
Reply #15 - Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 10:57am

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 10:26am:

AusGeoff wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2024 at 10:40pm:

An attempted comparison between US firearm deaths and
drug overdose deaths is, of course, untenable. I guess the
intention of this absurd OP was an attempt to diminish the
impact of gun deaths in some way.

US gun-related deaths from preventable, intentional, and
undetermined causes totalled 48,830 in 2021 —which as
well as being disastrous would be largely preventable by
rewriting the outmoded 2nd Amendment in order to suit a
21st century society as well as currently available firearms,
-
rather than 200-year-old single shot long guns.

At any rate, it's highly unlikely that any nutjob with a grudge
against society is gonna walk into a shopping mall or school
armed with a handful of Es or a bag of meth and kill ten or
twenty people on the spot is it?

How would you rewrite the Second Amendment?

The right of people to keep and bear arms on their own property shall not be infringed.

Under no circumstance may a citizen carry a firearm in a public area, unless given a legal permit in the court of law.

Firearm purchasing and ownership requirements include: a legal background check, no criminal record, at least 21 years of age, and must be neurotypical.

Assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition firearms of all kinds are prohibited from purchasing or possessing by any individual.

Governmental agencies have the right to possess all forms of weapons in order to secure the
freedom of the state and safety of the country.

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Re: Drug overdose deaths outnumber gun deaths
Reply #16 - Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 9:51pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2024 at 10:11pm:

So, drug deaths are meant to excuse gun deaths then? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

No, it shows that you don't care about deaths. Just restricting the only people not responsible for gun deaths! It's the same problem with our democrats, they don't reason out problems. It is always about "how they feel" about an issue.

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Re: Drug overdose deaths outnumber gun deaths
Reply #18 - Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 10:05pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 6:27am:

Mortdooley wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2024 at 9:32pm:

The arguments here about gun laws have never been about deaths. Those wanting to further restrict our Rights don't care about anything except they feel we should have harsher restrictions on honest people while ignoring that subcultures are the overwhelming majority of offenders!

The subculture of white Americans? Undecided

"Between 1982 and December 2023, 80 out of the 149 mass shootings in the United States were carried out by White shooters. By comparison, the perpetrator was African American in 26 mass shootings, and Latino in 12. When calculated as percentages, this amounts to 54 percent, 17 percent, and eight percent respectively."

Yes, subculture. Something you conveniently ignore. We are not the people who raise mass shooters, our children grow up to be well payed, productive citizens. Now if you would like to allow our democrats to immigrate they can bring their insanity to your country.

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Re: Drug overdose deaths outnumber gun deaths
Reply #19 - Feb 4^th, 2024 at 10:16am

Mortdooley wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 9:55pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 12:17am:

Possession of up to 50g of marijuana for
personal use should be made legal.

The general population is stupid enough without making more Stoners. No gateway drugs should be legal in any amount!

Are you claiming all Trump supporters are stoners Mort....That would explain a lot....The gateway effect is exactly why recreational marijuana is being legalized....Users have to purchase through licenced dealers with less chance of them pushing harder drugs....You have no problem with people getting guns with no licence or checks yet worry about someone smoking pot....Looks like you don't need to smoke weed to be stupid Mort???

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47295 Gender:	Re: Drug overdose deaths outnumber gun deaths Reply #20 - Feb 4^th, 2024 at 10:45am Then there's the good ol' sporting YOBBO of Australia. Slab a day, downers on anything from a XXXX to a VB, from a Swannie to a Resches. Wifebeaters and blue queensland singlets.
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Re: Drug overdose deaths outnumber gun deaths
Reply #21 - Feb 4^th, 2024 at 12:12pm

Mortdooley wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 9:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2024 at 10:11pm:

So, drug deaths are meant to excuse gun deaths then? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

No, it shows that you don't care about deaths. Just restricting the only people not responsible for gun deaths! It's the same problem with our democrats, they don't reason out problems. It is always about "how they feel" about an issue.

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Your clairvoyance is working overtime it seems, Mort. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Drug overdose deaths outnumber gun deaths
Reply #22 - Feb 4^th, 2024 at 10:26pm

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 4^th, 2024 at 10:16am:

Mortdooley wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 9:55pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 12:17am:

Possession of up to 50g of marijuana for
personal use should be made legal.

The general population is stupid enough without making more Stoners. No gateway drugs should be legal in any amount!

Are you claiming all Trump supporters are stoners Mort....That would explain a lot....The gateway effect is exactly why recreational marijuana is being legalized....Users have to purchase through licenced dealers with less chance of them pushing harder drugs....You have no problem with people getting guns with no licence or checks yet worry about someone smoking pot....Looks like you don't need to smoke weed to be stupid Mort???

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You must be a user since I said nothing about any particular group but that is what you think you read. The only use for marijuana is to become intoxicated. Why do you need to become intoxicated?

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Re: Drug overdose deaths outnumber gun deaths
Reply #23 - Feb 4^th, 2024 at 10:33pm

Mortdooley wrote on Feb 4^th, 2024 at 10:26pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 4^th, 2024 at 10:16am:

Mortdooley wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 9:55pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 12:17am:

Possession of up to 50g of marijuana for
personal use should be made legal.

The general population is stupid enough without making more Stoners. No gateway drugs should be legal in any amount!

Are you claiming all Trump supporters are stoners Mort....That would explain a lot....The gateway effect is exactly why recreational marijuana is being legalized....Users have to purchase through licenced dealers with less chance of them pushing harder drugs....You have no problem with people getting guns with no licence or checks yet worry about someone smoking pot....Looks like you don't need to smoke weed to be stupid Mort???

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You must be a user since I said nothing about any particular group but that is what you think you read. The only use for marijuana is to become intoxicated. Why do you need to become intoxicated?

We all need to become intoxicated, Mort.

Unless you have any alternatives - reality? Truth?

No. The important think is to keep hallucinating. Stay stoned.

Kids, do drugs. Take as many as you can. You're gonna need em to vibe with Mort and his friends.

We all do, no?

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Re: Drug overdose deaths outnumber gun deaths
Reply #24 - Feb 4^th, 2024 at 10:35pm

What is BaronVonRort smoking?

Doesn't the US Constitution confer the right that Americans can OD without hindrance?

Are US drug laws contrary to Darwinian theory?

The borders should be thrown wide open so that Cowboy mentality can reemerge and rescue America from itself.

Didn't the USA totally screw South America and create the nightmare South of the border?

What is BaronVonRort smoking?

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Re: Drug overdose deaths outnumber gun deaths
Reply #25 - Feb 4^th, 2024 at 10:41pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 4^th, 2024 at 12:12pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 9:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2024 at 10:11pm:

So, drug deaths are meant to excuse gun deaths then? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

No, it shows that you don't care about deaths. Just restricting the only people not responsible for gun deaths! It's the same problem with our democrats, they don't reason out problems. It is always about "how they feel" about an issue.

*SIGH*

Your clairvoyance is working overtime it seems, Mort. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

I can only go with what I see, you don't care about the cost in lives, just that those evil tools should be under the complete control of the government. Far be it for you to understand that guns prevent more crimes than they cause here. This is a time for honest people to consider what to do. The military age men who have entered this country illegally far outnumber our law enforcement and military. Why would biden and his puppeteers want that?

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Re: Drug overdose deaths outnumber gun deaths
Reply #26 - Feb 5^th, 2024 at 11:45am

Mortdooley wrote on Feb 4^th, 2024 at 10:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 4^th, 2024 at 12:12pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 9:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2024 at 10:11pm:

So, drug deaths are meant to excuse gun deaths then? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

No, it shows that you don't care about deaths. Just restricting the only people not responsible for gun deaths! It's the same problem with our democrats, they don't reason out problems. It is always about "how they feel" about an issue.

*SIGH*

Your clairvoyance is working overtime it seems, Mort. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

I can only go with what I see, you don't care about the cost in lives, just that those evil tools should be under the complete control of the government. Far be it for you to understand that guns prevent more crimes than they cause here. This is a time for honest people to consider what to do. The military age men who have entered this country
bnbn illegally far outnumber our law enforcement and military. Why would biden and his puppeteers want that?

Who says they want it, Mort, except for people like you? What was Trump doing when he was el Presidente? Bugger all. He tried to erect a fence that was easily circumvented, which he supposedly tried to have Mexico pay for. If you want someone who doesn't care about deaths look at Trump. He did nothing about guns or drugs when el Presidente. Oh, dearie, dearie, me, what a WOFTAM. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Drug overdose deaths outnumber gun deaths
Reply #27 - Feb 5^th, 2024 at 12:44pm

Mortdooley wrote on Feb 4^th, 2024 at 10:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 4^th, 2024 at 12:12pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 9:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2024 at 10:11pm:

So, drug deaths are meant to excuse gun deaths then? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

No, it shows that you don't care about deaths. Just restricting the only people not responsible for gun deaths! It's the same problem with our democrats, they don't reason out problems. It is always about "how they feel" about an issue.

*SIGH*

Your clairvoyance is working overtime it seems, Mort. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

I can only go with what I see, you don't care about the cost in lives, just that those evil tools should be under the complete control of the government. Far be it for you to understand that guns prevent more crimes than they cause here. This is a time for honest people to consider what to do. The military age men who have entered this country
bnbn illegally far outnumber our law enforcement and military. Why would biden and his puppeteers want that?

More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes, Evidence Shows

More firearms do not keep people safe, hard numbers show. Why do so many Americans believe the opposite?

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Re: Drug overdose deaths outnumber gun deaths
Reply #28 - Feb 5^th, 2024 at 3:31pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 10:57am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 10:26am:

AusGeoff wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2024 at 10:40pm:

An attempted comparison between US firearm deaths and
drug overdose deaths is, of course, untenable. I guess the
intention of this absurd OP was an attempt to diminish the
impact of gun deaths in some way.

US gun-related deaths from preventable, intentional, and
undetermined causes totalled 48,830 in 2021 —which as
well as being disastrous would be largely preventable by
rewriting the outmoded 2nd Amendment in order to suit a
21st century society as well as currently available firearms,
-
rather than 200-year-old single shot long guns.

At any rate, it's highly unlikely that any nutjob with a grudge
against society is gonna walk into a shopping mall or school
armed with a handful of Es or a bag of meth and kill ten or
twenty people on the spot is it?

How would you rewrite the Second Amendment?

The right of people to keep and bear arms on their own property shall not be infringed.

Under no circumstance may a citizen carry a firearm in a public area, unless given a legal permit in the court of law.

Firearm purchasing and ownership requirements include: a legal background check, no criminal record, at least 21 years of age, and must be neurotypical.

Assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition firearms of all kinds are prohibited from purchasing or possessing by any individual.

Governmental agencies have the right to possess all forms of weapons in order to secure the
freedom of the state and safety of the country.

That’s not a rewrite that’s a list of suggestions for a rewrite.

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Re: Drug overdose deaths outnumber gun deaths
Reply #29 - Feb 5^th, 2024 at 3:44pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 5^th, 2024 at 12:44pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Feb 4^th, 2024 at 10:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 4^th, 2024 at 12:12pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 9:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2024 at 10:11pm:

So, drug deaths are meant to excuse gun deaths then? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

No, it shows that you don't care about deaths. Just restricting the only people not responsible for gun deaths! It's the same problem with our democrats, they don't reason out problems. It is always about "how they feel" about an issue.

*SIGH*

Your clairvoyance is working overtime it seems, Mort. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

I can only go with what I see, you don't care about the cost in lives, just that those evil tools should be under the complete control of the government. Far be it for you to understand that guns prevent more crimes than they cause here. This is a time for honest people to consider what to do. The military age men who have entered this country
bnbn illegally far outnumber our law enforcement and military. Why would biden and his puppeteers want that?

More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes, Evidence Shows

More firearms do not keep people safe, hard numbers show. Why do so many Americans believe the opposite?

Because the rate of murders has been in steady decline ,9.95 murders/100,000 in 1990 dropping to 6.81 in2021, whilst the number of guns in civilian hands rose .
Shewing that more guns means less crime.
“ The homicide rate in the United States is expected to plummet nearly 13% compared to 2022, meaning more than 2,000 fewer people were the victims of homicide this year, Jeff Asher, a national crime analyst, told ABC News.”
[url] https://abcnews.go.com/US/homicide-numbers-poised-hit-record-decline-nationwide-
americans/story?id=105556400[/url]

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