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Reply #75 - Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:52pm
 
mothra wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:51pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:50pm:
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Tell me Lee, what do you think of Israeli combatants disguising themselves as hospital staff and going into a hospital away from the combat zone to execute a Hamas commander and two Islamic Jihaists non-combatant patients?


Your thoughts?

"non-combatant patients" ?? Cry Cry Cry  No. Hamas and Islamic Jihad monsters.

Excellent. Targeted, quick. no civilian involvement.  What's not to like?






Absolute war crime. Text book.

How so? explain.
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Reply #76 - Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:56pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:52pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:51pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:50pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 12:48pm:
lee wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 12:43pm:


Tell me Lee, what do you think of Israeli combatants disguising themselves as hospital staff and going into a hospital away from the combat zone to execute a Hamas commander and two Islamic Jihaists non-combatant patients?


Your thoughts?

"non-combatant patients" ?? Cry Cry Cry  No. Hamas and Islamic Jihad monsters.

Excellent. Targeted, quick. no civilian involvement.  What's not to like?






Absolute war crime. Text book.

How so? explain.


You don't murder patients, fruitbat. Article 18 of the Geneva Convention is merely a starting point to your path to becoming informed.

This was a literal war crime. Of that there can be no dispute.
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Reply #77 - Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:01pm
 
Good clip contribution Mothra.
Hard to take Ritter sometimes, as he was one of those who helped con the International Community into supporting the USA that Iraq had Weapons of Mass Destruction, when it did not. So Ritter is more than happy to say such and such for himself, but take the money and say otherwise for others.

But that aside. He has been right throughout the clip and I can't see any real delusional claims by him. Step by step - he's been honest about the reality of it all.

The best bit is at the end - that the greatest threat to Israel are indeed the Right Wing Radical 'Jews'. This, I have also been saying for ages. The 'religious' based Jews are undermining the Military Israel future. If there is any 'genocide' or war crimes to be had by the ADF, then it is by these Religious Jews who corrupt it and commit it. These Radical Religious Fanatics have been pushing their 'kill Moslems, or anyone for that matter' absolutism for decades.
I've only been to Israel once for just a month, but it was more than enough to see the difference in the People there. The irony of the Military Israelis being the more peace-minded of the two, was very apparent. Many 'confrontations' between the Right-Wing Radical Religious and the Israeli Military have happened. Many times, the Israel Military have had to PROTECT PALESTINIANS by these fanatics of absolutism. They want to USE/EXPLOIT the Israeli Military to do their dirty religious hatred work for them and 'conquer' Palestine and whoever.
Although I am a Jew. My 'faith' is in the Israeli Military of the future, not the Religious bitter past. If the Right-Wing gain total control of Israeli Military - they will be no different to Nazi's, Hamas, Isis, Soviets, Khmer Rouge, etc. If that happens, Israel as a nation - will FAIL. Simple as that.
The Israeli Military is not perfect. It still has a lot to learn and grow from - if it is indeed destined to become the New Middle-Eastern 'Empire' after Islam falls (due to the 'Christian' Messiah sacrifice of France... which is why Britain has stepped back via its 'Brexit' to leave France out in front to face Islam).
Israel may not have the capabilities to engage with the likes of Iran, Lebanon, etc - directly. But when Islam forfeits its centuries long Military Empire upon their new Messiah (France) - the likelihood of Iran, Hezbollah, etc will no longer be a threat to Israel anyway. And that's how it should be. A Israel Empire, not by 'conquest', but by just filling the void.

So Mothra. Yes, you are justified in your views. But don't forget - it is written and it is set in stone. What goes around, comes around. One day both Islam & Israel will 'unite' and that in itself proves that it is the right direction for both and for the world. Anything other than this, is destruction, death and failure upon both parts and for those who follow that path.
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Re: "Gas the Jews!" was not chanted at the Opera House
Reply #78 - Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:14pm
 
mothra wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:56pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:52pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:51pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:50pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 12:48pm:
lee wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 12:43pm:


Tell me Lee, what do you think of Israeli combatants disguising themselves as hospital staff and going into a hospital away from the combat zone to execute a Hamas commander and two Islamic Jihaists non-combatant patients?


Your thoughts?

"non-combatant patients" ?? Cry Cry Cry  No. Hamas and Islamic Jihad monsters.

Excellent. Targeted, quick. no civilian involvement.  What's not to like?






Absolute war crime. Text book.

How so? explain.


You don't murder patients, fruitbat. Article 18 of the Geneva Convention is merely a starting point to your path to becoming informed.

This was a literal war crime. Of that there can be no dispute.

hamas and Islamic Jihad fighters and commanders hiding in a cilvilian hospital.
Various Palestinian jihadist organisatins like hamas and IJ have been using civilian hospitals, schools as human shields for terrorist campaigns. these tree mosnters did exactly the same, tried to use the civilian hospital as a human shield. They were not themselves civilians.

Not a war crime.  Well done those Jews.

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Re: "Gas the Jews!" was not chanted at the Opera House
Reply #79 - Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:16pm
 
Jasin wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:01pm:
Good clip contribution Mothra.
Hard to take Ritter sometimes, as he was one of those who helped con the International Community into supporting the USA that Iraq had Weapons of Mass Destruction, when it did not. So Ritter is more than happy to say such and such for himself, but take the money and say otherwise for others.

But that aside. He has been right throughout the clip and I can't see any real delusional claims by him. Step by step - he's been honest about the reality of it all.

The best bit is at the end - that the greatest threat to Israel are indeed the Right Wing Radical 'Jews'. This, I have also been saying for ages. The 'religious' based Jews are undermining the Military Israel future. If there is any 'genocide' or war crimes to be had by the ADF, then it is by these Religious Jews who corrupt it and commit it. These Radical Religious Fanatics have been pushing their 'kill Moslems, or anyone for that matter' absolutism for decades.
I've only been to Israel once for just a month, but it was more than enough to see the difference in the People there. The irony of the Military Israelis being the more peace-minded of the two, was very apparent. Many 'confrontations' between the Right-Wing Radical Religious and the Israeli Military have happened. Many times, the Israel Military have had to PROTECT PALESTINIANS by these fanatics of absolutism. They want to USE/EXPLOIT the Israeli Military to do their dirty religious hatred work for them and 'conquer' Palestine and whoever.
Although I am a Jew. My 'faith' is in the Israeli Military of the future, not the Religious bitter past. If the Right-Wing gain total control of Israeli Military - they will be no different to Nazi's, Hamas, Isis, Soviets, Khmer Rouge, etc. If that happens, Israel as a nation - will FAIL. Simple as that.
The Israeli Military is not perfect. It still has a lot to learn and grow from - if it is indeed destined to become the New Middle-Eastern 'Empire' after Islam falls (due to the 'Christian' Messiah sacrifice of France... which is why Britain has stepped back via its 'Brexit' to leave France out in front to face Islam).
Israel may not have the capabilities to engage with the likes of Iran, Lebanon, etc - directly. But when Islam forfeits its centuries long Military Empire upon their new Messiah (France) - the likelihood of Iran, Hezbollah, etc will no longer be a threat to Israel anyway. And that's how it should be. A Israel Empire, not by 'conquest', but by just filling the void.

So Mothra. Yes, you are justified in your views. But don't forget - it is written and it is set in stone. What goes around, comes around. One day both Islam & Israel will 'unite' and that in itself proves that it is the right direction for both and for the world. Anything other than this, is destruction, death and failure upon both parts and for those who follow that path.


I don't mean to pick an argument with you, Peanuts, but I think you are a Jew like Pascoe is an Aborigine.



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Re: "Gas the Jews!" was not chanted at the Opera House
Reply #80 - Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:19pm
 
mothra wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:26pm:
Belgarion wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:18pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 12:48pm:
lee wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 12:43pm:


Tell me Lee, what do you think of Israeli combatants disguising themselves as hospital staff and going into a hospital away from the combat zone to execute non-combatant patients?

Have you ever heard of such a thing in any war past?

What do you think of Israeli soldiers throwing incendiary devices hidden inside food and toys to desperate and starving people?

What do you think of Israel repeatedly bombing areas they tell refugees to flee to?

Your thoughts?


I think it was a well planned and well executed operation that took out the terrorists (not non combatants) with no civilian casualties. Of course the Israelis could have simply flattened the hospital, and no doubt that's what you would have preferred because it would give you another chance to tut tut and be all self righteous, but they did not because, unlike these terrorists you are so fond of, they go out of the way to avoid unnecessary casualties. 



Well, haven't you just rattled off a list of war crimes. How telling.

And dude, a patient in a hospital outside of the military zone is a non-combatant.  I'm sorry for you that the Geneva Convention doesn't have a disclaimer for Muslims .... to be exterminated however you wish.

You would have liked that.

However, reality, war crime. And an egregious one.

What do you think of the IDF hiding incendiary devices in food and toys?

What do you think about them repeatedly bombing areas they advise refugees to flee to?

You had no comment on those questions. Would you like to take the opportunity to respond? I'm well interested in how you'll spin this into Muslim bashing.


You stupid woman. Roll Eyes Before quoting the Geneva Convention like you actually understand what it means you would be well advised to look at the detail around who the Conventions actually apply to. As for your ridiculous assertion that the Israelis are hiding bombs in toys and foodstuffs and directing civilians to areas they intend to bomb, how about giving a source?  I mean a real source, not some anti-Jewish propaganda site that you have unquestioningly fallen for.
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Re: "Gas the Jews!" was not chanted at the Opera House
Reply #81 - Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:19pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:14pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:56pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:52pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:51pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:50pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 12:48pm:
lee wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 12:43pm:


Tell me Lee, what do you think of Israeli combatants disguising themselves as hospital staff and going into a hospital away from the combat zone to execute a Hamas commander and two Islamic Jihaists non-combatant patients?


Your thoughts?

"non-combatant patients" ?? Cry Cry Cry  No. Hamas and Islamic Jihad monsters.

Excellent. Targeted, quick. no civilian involvement.  What's not to like?






Absolute war crime. Text book.

How so? explain.


You don't murder patients, fruitbat. Article 18 of the Geneva Convention is merely a starting point to your path to becoming informed.

This was a literal war crime. Of that there can be no dispute.

hamas and Islamic Jihad fighters and commanders hiding in a cilvilian hospital.
Various Palestinian jihadist organisatins like hamas and IJ have been using civilian hospitals, schools as human shields for terrorist campaigns. these tree mosnters did exactly the same, tried to use the civilian hospital as a human shield. They were not themselves civilians.

Not a war crime.  Well done those Jews.



They were patients, fruitbat. In a hospital outside of the war zone.

It's a war crime. You're just going to have to accept that.

At this point i'm amazed you're even pretending Israel isn't committing them all over the place. Even they aren't denying it.
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Re: "Gas the Jews!" was not chanted at the Opera House
Reply #82 - Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:26pm
 
Belgarion wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:19pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:26pm:
Belgarion wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:18pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 12:48pm:
lee wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 12:43pm:


Tell me Lee, what do you think of Israeli combatants disguising themselves as hospital staff and going into a hospital away from the combat zone to execute non-combatant patients?

Have you ever heard of such a thing in any war past?

What do you think of Israeli soldiers throwing incendiary devices hidden inside food and toys to desperate and starving people?

What do you think of Israel repeatedly bombing areas they tell refugees to flee to?

Your thoughts?


I think it was a well planned and well executed operation that took out the terrorists (not non combatants) with no civilian casualties. Of course the Israelis could have simply flattened the hospital, and no doubt that's what you would have preferred because it would give you another chance to tut tut and be all self righteous, but they did not because, unlike these terrorists you are so fond of, they go out of the way to avoid unnecessary casualties. 



Well, haven't you just rattled off a list of war crimes. How telling.

And dude, a patient in a hospital outside of the military zone is a non-combatant.  I'm sorry for you that the Geneva Convention doesn't have a disclaimer for Muslims .... to be exterminated however you wish.

You would have liked that.

However, reality, war crime. And an egregious one.

What do you think of the IDF hiding incendiary devices in food and toys?

What do you think about them repeatedly bombing areas they advise refugees to flee to?

You had no comment on those questions. Would you like to take the opportunity to respond? I'm well interested in how you'll spin this into Muslim bashing.


You stupid woman. Roll Eyes Before quoting the Geneva Convention like you actually understand what it means you would be well advised to look at the detail around who the Conventions actually apply to. As for your ridiculous assertion that the Israelis are hiding bombs in toys and foodstuffs and directing civilians to areas they intend to bomb, how about giving a source?  I mean a real source, not some anti-Jewish propaganda site that you have unquestioningly fallen for.



Seriously. With all we know.

Aren't you embarrassed?
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Re: "Gas the Jews!" was not chanted at the Opera House
Reply #83 - Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:35pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:16pm:
Jasin wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:01pm:
Good clip contribution Mothra.
Hard to take Ritter sometimes, as he was one of those who helped con the International Community into supporting the USA that Iraq had Weapons of Mass Destruction, when it did not. So Ritter is more than happy to say such and such for himself, but take the money and say otherwise for others.

But that aside. He has been right throughout the clip and I can't see any real delusional claims by him. Step by step - he's been honest about the reality of it all.

The best bit is at the end - that the greatest threat to Israel are indeed the Right Wing Radical 'Jews'. This, I have also been saying for ages. The 'religious' based Jews are undermining the Military Israel future. If there is any 'genocide' or war crimes to be had by the ADF, then it is by these Religious Jews who corrupt it and commit it. These Radical Religious Fanatics have been pushing their 'kill Moslems, or anyone for that matter' absolutism for decades.
I've only been to Israel once for just a month, but it was more than enough to see the difference in the People there. The irony of the Military Israelis being the more peace-minded of the two, was very apparent. Many 'confrontations' between the Right-Wing Radical Religious and the Israeli Military have happened. Many times, the Israel Military have had to PROTECT PALESTINIANS by these fanatics of absolutism. They want to USE/EXPLOIT the Israeli Military to do their dirty religious hatred work for them and 'conquer' Palestine and whoever.
Although I am a Jew. My 'faith' is in the Israeli Military of the future, not the Religious bitter past. If the Right-Wing gain total control of Israeli Military - they will be no different to Nazi's, Hamas, Isis, Soviets, Khmer Rouge, etc. If that happens, Israel as a nation - will FAIL. Simple as that.
The Israeli Military is not perfect. It still has a lot to learn and grow from - if it is indeed destined to become the New Middle-Eastern 'Empire' after Islam falls (due to the 'Christian' Messiah sacrifice of France... which is why Britain has stepped back via its 'Brexit' to leave France out in front to face Islam).
Israel may not have the capabilities to engage with the likes of Iran, Lebanon, etc - directly. But when Islam forfeits its centuries long Military Empire upon their new Messiah (France) - the likelihood of Iran, Hezbollah, etc will no longer be a threat to Israel anyway. And that's how it should be. A Israel Empire, not by 'conquest', but by just filling the void.

So Mothra. Yes, you are justified in your views. But don't forget - it is written and it is set in stone. What goes around, comes around. One day both Islam & Israel will 'unite' and that in itself proves that it is the right direction for both and for the world. Anything other than this, is destruction, death and failure upon both parts and for those who follow that path.


I don't mean to pick an argument with you, Peanuts, but I think you are a Jew like Pascoe is an Aborigine.




All good Frank.
Pascoe is 'culturally' Aboriginal.
He is not 'racially' Aborigine (despite what he may think).
And yes, I have met him late last year.
So which one are you saying I'm not in regards to me being a Jew?
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Reply #84 - Feb 3rd, 2024 at 3:00pm
 
mothra wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 12:48pm:
Tell me Lee, what do you think of Israeli combatants disguising themselves as hospital staff and going into a hospital away from the combat zone to execute non-combatant patients?


They were non-combatant patients? So they were not combatant murderers that had been injured?

But of course nothing to do with the cartoon.

mothra wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 12:48pm:
Have you ever heard of such a thing in any war past?


"The international law of war limits the use of violence, largely through protections afforded to civilians. However, the law provides no principled limit on the taking of combatant life — soldiers may be killed even if to do so would contribute absolutely no military advantage."

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/canadian-journal-of-law-and-jurisprudenc...
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Reply #85 - Feb 3rd, 2024 at 3:05pm
 
Well if they were combatant HAMAS terrorists hiding behind women and children in a hospital for safety and care.
Then I guess they must have had an ironic look of despair on their faces when in comes Israeli's (or Right-Wing Jews) dressed as 'women & children' to void them from killing more innocents when they're better.
Karma for you.  Wink

Now where was that clip where Israeli's followed a HAMAS terrorist by drone, who was dressed up as a 'woman'? Only when he took the deceit off, did another Israeli drone come in to blow him to bits.
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Reply #86 - Feb 3rd, 2024 at 3:31pm
 


mothra wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:26pm:
Seriously. With all we know.

Aren't you embarrassed?


What do we know Mothra? I'm keen to hear where you got this information from and so are others it seems. Please don't keep us waiting.
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Reply #87 - Feb 3rd, 2024 at 4:03pm
 
Mothra seems to indicate non-combatant is a state of mind. Today I am a combatant. Tomorrow - it is too soon to tell. If I am injured fighting - I am now a non-combatant until armed again. If I still  have those arms? I guess a non-combatant combatant. Wink
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Reply #88 - Feb 3rd, 2024 at 4:45pm
 
The Imperial Japanese Army was condemned for the murder of patients under the care of medical staff when they captured Singapore at the Alexandra Hospital on 14 February 1942.  Some 250-300 staff and patients were massacred.  Now tell me, were they non-combatants or combatants? Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #89 - Feb 3rd, 2024 at 4:51pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 4:45pm:
The Imperial Japanese Army was condemned for the murder of patients under the care of medical staff when they captured Singapore at the Alexandra Hospital on 14 February 1942.  Some 250-300 staff and patients were massacred.  Now tell me, were they non-combatants or combatants? Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Are you suggesting equivalence, cockwomble:

At about 13:00, the Japanese broke through and advanced towards the Alexandra Barracks Hospital. A British lieutenant—acting as an envoy with a white flag—approached Japanese forces but was killed with a bayonet.[130] After Japanese troops entered the hospital, they killed up to 50 soldiers, including some undergoing surgery. Doctors and nurses were also killed.[131] The next day, about 200 male staff members and patients who had been assembled and bound the previous day,[131] many of them walking wounded, were ordered to walk about 400 m (440 yd) to an industrial area. Those who fell on the way were bayoneted. The men were forced into a series of small, badly ventilated rooms where they were held overnight without water. Some died during the night as a result of their treatment.[131] The remainder were bayoneted the following morning.[132][133] Several survivors were identified after the war, some of whom had survived by pretending to be dead.
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