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Reply #90 - Feb 27th, 2024 at 11:19am
 
Frank wrote on Feb 27th, 2024 at 10:01am:
freediver wrote on Feb 27th, 2024 at 8:01am:
Woody why don't you just admit you were spreading lies about Jews on behalf of a terrorist organisation?

Rather absurd lies that you tried to cover up by blaming the Jews for being too "clannish" to let you have any evidence.


It is a perversity.


In 1948, after the UN announced the state, all of Israel’s Arab neighbors invaded to try to wipe it out. They failed. But the upper estimate of the casualties on all sides came to some 20,000 people. The upper estimates of the wars of 1967 and 1973, when Israel’s neighbors once again attempted to annihilate it, are very similar (some 20,000 and 15,000 respectively). Subsequent wars in Lebanon and Gaza add several thousands more to that figure. It means that up to the present war, some 60,000 people had died on every side in all wars involving Israel.

Over the past decade of civil war in Syria, Bashar al-Assad has managed to kill more than ten times that number. Although precise figures are hard to come by, Assad is reckoned to have murdered some 600,000 Arab Muslims in his country. Meaning that every six to twelve months he manages to kill the same number as died in every war involving Israel ever.

There are lots of reasons you might give to explain this: that people don’t care when Muslims kill Muslims; that people don’t care when Arabs kill Arabs; that they only care if Israel is involved. Allow me to give another example that is suggestive.

No one knows how many people have been killed in the war in Yemen in recent years. From 2015-2021 the UN estimated perhaps 377,000 — ten times the highest estimate of the recent death toll in Gaza. The only time I’ve heard people scream on the streets about Yemen has been after the Houthis started attacking American and British ships in the Red Sea and the deadbeat idiots on the streets started chanting: “Yemen, Yemen, make us proud, turn another ship around.” Because like all leftists and Islamists there is no terrorist group these people can’t get a pash on, so long as that terrorist group is against us.

I often wonder why this obsession arises when the war involves Israel. Why don’t people trawl along our streets and scream by their thousands about Syria, Yemen, China’s Uighurs or a hundred other terrible things? There are only two possible conclusions.

The first is a journalistic one. Ever since Marie Colvin was killed it became plain that western journalists were a target in Syria. Not eager to be the target, most journalists hotfooted it out of the country. Some who didn’t fell into the hands of ISIS. Israel-Gaza wars by contrast do not have the same dynamic and on a technical level the media can applaud itself for reporting from a warzone where they are not the target.

But I suspect it is a moral explanation which explains the situation so many people find themselves in. They simply enjoy being able to accuse the world’s only Jewish state of “genocide” and “Nazi-like behavior.” They enjoy the opportunity to wound Jews as deeply as possible. Many find it satisfies the intense fury they feel when Israel is winning.

Like being fanned on your veranda while lambasting the evils of empire, it is a paradox, to be sure. But it is also a perversity. And it doesn’t come from nowhere.
Dougas Murray


It really makes you wonder how many self-identifying lefties are closer to Nazis.
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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #91 - Feb 27th, 2024 at 12:50pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 27th, 2024 at 11:19am:
It really makes you wonder how many self-identifying lefties are closer to Nazis.


I have many Jewish friends, does that count?
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Reply #92 - Feb 27th, 2024 at 1:02pm
 
By every measure, what is happening in Gaza is not genocide. More than that – it’s not even regionally remarkable.

Hamas’s own figures – not to be relied upon – suggest that around 28,000 people have been killed in Gaza since October. Most of the international media likes to claim these people are all innocent civilians. In fact, many of the dead will have been killed by the quarter or so Hamas and Islamic Jihad rockets that fall short and land inside Gaza.

Then there are the more than 9,000 Hamas terrorists who have been killed by the Israel Defence Forces. As Lord Roberts of Belgravia recently pointed out, that means there is fewer than a two to one ratio of civilians to terrorists killed: ‘An astonishingly low ratio for modern urban warfare where the terrorists routinely use civilians as human shields.’ Most western armies would dream of such a low civilian casualty count. But because Israel is involved (‘Jews are news’) the libellous hyperbole is everywhere.

For almost 20 years since Israel withdrew from Gaza, we have heard the same allegations. Israel has been accused of committing genocide in Gaza during exchanges with Hamas in 2009, 2012 and 2014. As a claim it is demonstrably, obviously false. When Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005, the population of the Strip was around 1.3 million. Today it is more than two million, with a male life expectancy higher than in parts of Scotland. During the same period, the Palestinian population in the West Bank grew by a million. Either the Israelis weren’t committing genocide, or they tried to commit genocide but are uniquely bad at it. Which is it? Well, when it comes to Israel it seems people don’t have to choose. Everything and anything can be true at once.
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Reply #93 - Feb 27th, 2024 at 1:10pm
 
Gee, some pommie islamaphobe has an opinion that it's not genocide

that settles it ehh frankie  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #94 - Feb 27th, 2024 at 1:13pm
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 27th, 2024 at 1:10pm:
Gee, some pommie islamaphobe has an opinion that it's not genocide

that settles it ehh frankie  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

He provides evidence, unlike you shrieking mongs.

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Reply #95 - Feb 27th, 2024 at 1:23pm
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 27th, 2024 at 12:50pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 27th, 2024 at 11:19am:
It really makes you wonder how many self-identifying lefties are closer to Nazis.


I have many Jewish friends, does that count?


Do you feel compelled to tell lies about them?
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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #96 - Feb 27th, 2024 at 7:42pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 27th, 2024 at 1:13pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 27th, 2024 at 1:10pm:
Gee, some pommie islamaphobe has an opinion that it's not genocide

that settles it ehh frankie  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

He provides evidence, unlike you shrieking mongs.



Like you claim you have evidence Trump won the last election? That sort of evidence? Cheesy
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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #97 - Feb 27th, 2024 at 7:43pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 27th, 2024 at 1:23pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 27th, 2024 at 12:50pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 27th, 2024 at 11:19am:
It really makes you wonder how many self-identifying lefties are closer to Nazis.


I have many Jewish friends, does that count?


Do you feel compelled to tell lies about them?


No, unlike you,  I've never lied about Jewish people.
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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #98 - Feb 27th, 2024 at 8:05pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 27th, 2024 at 8:01am:
Woody why don't you just admit you were spreading lies about Jews


Looks like I'm finally getting you to admit, after I've asked many times, your claim that Prof. Shahak lied in that translation.

So why don't you just come out and say it?

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on behalf of a terrorist organisation?


Do you know who the original terrorists in that region were?

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blaming the Jews for being too "clannish" to let you have any evidence.


Like I said, if the good professor hadn't translated it from the Hebrew in which it was first published, it's likely no non-Hebrew speaker would ever know of it.

And why is that?

Well, look up din moser.

Or here, see what Prof. Shahak says on it:

The law which,

'commands every Jew to kill or wound severely any Jew who, without a decision of a competent rabbinical authority, has informed non-Jews, especially non-Jewish authorities, about Jewish affairs...'

Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel, Chapter Seven: The Religious Background of Rabin's Assassination

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Reply #99 - Feb 27th, 2024 at 8:10pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 27th, 2024 at 1:02pm:
By every measure, what is happening in Gaza is not genocide. More than that – it’s not even regionally remarkable.

Hamas’s own figures – not to be relied upon – suggest that around 28,000 people have been killed in Gaza since October. Most of the international media likes to claim these people are all innocent civilians. In fact, many of the dead will have been killed by the quarter or so Hamas and Islamic Jihad rockets that fall short and land inside Gaza.

Then there are the more than 9,000 Hamas terrorists who have been killed by the Israel Defence Forces. As Lord Roberts of Belgravia recently pointed out, that means there is fewer than a two to one ratio of civilians to terrorists killed: ‘An astonishingly low ratio for modern urban warfare where the terrorists routinely use civilians as human shields.’ Most western armies would dream of such a low civilian casualty count. But because Israel is involved (‘Jews are news’) the libellous hyperbole is everywhere.

For almost 20 years since Israel withdrew from Gaza, we have heard the same allegations. Israel has been accused of committing genocide in Gaza during exchanges with Hamas in 2009, 2012 and 2014. As a claim it is demonstrably, obviously false. When Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005, the population of the Strip was around 1.3 million. Today it is more than two million, with a male life expectancy higher than in parts of Scotland. During the same period, the Palestinian population in the West Bank grew by a million. Either the Israelis weren’t committing genocide, or they tried to commit genocide but are uniquely bad at it. Which is it? Well, when it comes to Israel it seems people don’t have to choose. Everything and anything can be true at once.
Douglas Murray



He obviously hasn't heard of The Goldstone Report.
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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #100 - Feb 27th, 2024 at 8:12pm
 
wombatwoody wrote on Feb 26th, 2024 at 11:07pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 25th, 2024 at 7:28pm:
Let's try again woody. Try not to be so slippery this time. You posted:

wombatwoody wrote on Feb 12th, 2024 at 10:40pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 11th, 2024 at 6:52pm:
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I'll say it again - that's a ridiculous demand!


No it isn't.


Yes it is. To demand to see something that was published in 1974 that hasn't been put on the web is preposterous !

And absurd claim?

I'll ask again: Are you claiming Prof. Shahak lied in that translation?

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Pretty big conspiracy to cover that one up, don't you think? Queues of children across the country lining up at libraries to borrow books of racist caricatures. Parents buying racist books for their children without realising what is in them. And then it all vanished, except for one mention supposedly from a 1970s magazine article?


You don't understand the clannish Jewish mentality.


And then this:

freediver wrote on Feb 15th, 2024 at 7:24pm:
wombatwoody wrote on Feb 15th, 2024 at 7:18pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 13th, 2024 at 7:39am:
So because the Jews are "clannish" you can basically make up anything you want about them, and it is preposterous to ask you to back it up, because they are "clannish" and don't put the evidence on the internet for you?


I didn't make up anything. I quoted Prof. Shahak. So I'll ask yet again - are you saying he lied in that translation?



You get very slippery when you start spreading lies about Jews on behalf of terrorist organisations.

Did Prof. Shahak. say this?

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we, the Israelis, are employing much worse material of racist hatred which is accompanied by caricatures no less racist. Parents buy those books for their children, often without knowing their content; or the children get them in school or municipal libraries. And what a wonder: those are almost the only books which are never left on the shelf. At the moment they are returned to the library, a queue of children is waiting for every book."



Why won't you clarify which quote you are attributing to Prof. Shahak? Is it because you have realised you were busted posting Jew hating propaganda on behalf of Muslim terrorists?


Which quote? So there's more than one?


Which quote? Are you confused again or is this just part of your usual antics?
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Reply #101 - Feb 27th, 2024 at 8:16pm
 
wombatwoody wrote on Feb 27th, 2024 at 8:10pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 27th, 2024 at 1:02pm:
By every measure, what is happening in Gaza is not genocide. More than that – it’s not even regionally remarkable.

Hamas’s own figures – not to be relied upon – suggest that around 28,000 people have been killed in Gaza since October. Most of the international media likes to claim these people are all innocent civilians. In fact, many of the dead will have been killed by the quarter or so Hamas and Islamic Jihad rockets that fall short and land inside Gaza.

Then there are the more than 9,000 Hamas terrorists who have been killed by the Israel Defence Forces. As Lord Roberts of Belgravia recently pointed out, that means there is fewer than a two to one ratio of civilians to terrorists killed: ‘An astonishingly low ratio for modern urban warfare where the terrorists routinely use civilians as human shields.’ Most western armies would dream of such a low civilian casualty count. But because Israel is involved (‘Jews are news’) the libellous hyperbole is everywhere.

For almost 20 years since Israel withdrew from Gaza, we have heard the same allegations. Israel has been accused of committing genocide in Gaza during exchanges with Hamas in 2009, 2012 and 2014. As a claim it is demonstrably, obviously false. When Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005, the population of the Strip was around 1.3 million. Today it is more than two million, with a male life expectancy higher than in parts of Scotland. During the same period, the Palestinian population in the West Bank grew by a million. Either the Israelis weren’t committing genocide, or they tried to commit genocide but are uniquely bad at it. Which is it? Well, when it comes to Israel it seems people don’t have to choose. Everything and anything can be true at once.
Douglas Murray



He obviously hasn't heard of The Goldstone Report.

When Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005, the population of the Strip was around 1.3 million. Today it is more than two million, with a male life expectancy higher than in parts of Scotland. During the same period, the Palestinian population in the West Bank grew by a million. Either the Israelis weren’t committing genocide, or they tried to commit genocide but are uniquely bad at it. Which is it?
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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #102 - Feb 27th, 2024 at 9:28pm
 
wombatwoody wrote on Feb 27th, 2024 at 8:05pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 27th, 2024 at 8:01am:
Woody why don't you just admit you were spreading lies about Jews


Looks like I'm finally getting you to admit, after I've asked many times, your claim that Prof. Shahak lied in that translation.


I have not made any claim at all about a prof Shahak. I still do not know why you keep bringing him up. I have tried asking you to explain yourself, but you are off with the fairies.
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Reply #103 - Feb 27th, 2024 at 9:31pm
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 27th, 2024 at 7:43pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 27th, 2024 at 1:23pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 27th, 2024 at 12:50pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 27th, 2024 at 11:19am:
It really makes you wonder how many self-identifying lefties are closer to Nazis.


I have many Jewish friends, does that count?


Do you feel compelled to tell lies about them?


No, unlike you,  I've never lied about Jewish people. 


Do you have evidence for this claim?

John Smith wrote on Oct 9th, 2023 at 6:55pm:
Israel has been killing Palestinian civilians daily for years

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Reply #104 - Feb 27th, 2024 at 10:27pm
 
It would appear as though it is the other way around if you can believe the IDF???

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Israel finds explosive belts made for kids, toy chests with warheads in Gaza

Israeli soldiers found Hamas explosive belts adapted for children and toy chests hiding warheads at a Gaza kindergarten, the army said over the weekend.

The Israel Defense Forces said a sweep of a Hamas-operated area near schools, a mosque and a medical facility turned up a weapons compound filled with countless explosives.

In the compound, the IDF found explosive belts specifically modified for children to wear, along with dozens of mortar shells, hundreds of grenades and several intelligence documents, it said Sunday.

The raid on the compound was carried out after Israeli troops took out seven Hamas terrorists in the building.

A similar raid occurred at a Gaza school that was serving as a shelter for Palestinian refugees, the IDF said.



Hamas are scum!!!

Angry Angry Angry

https://nypost.com/2023/12/24/news/israel-finds-explosive-belts-made-for-kids-to...
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