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Reply #195 - Mar 6th, 2024 at 11:15pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 4th, 2024 at 2:12pm:
a large majority of states within the Arab League do not recognize Israel


They would recognize Israel within the framework of a two-state solution.

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Israelis and Jews in general are considered a frequent target of antisemitism in the Arab world.


That only started when Zionism arrived on the scene. Before that the region was relatively peaceful:
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Reply #196 - Mar 6th, 2024 at 11:19pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 3rd, 2024 at 9:57am:
wombatwoody wrote on Mar 2nd, 2024 at 6:21pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 2nd, 2024 at 11:36am:
The Muslims chose to set up a terrorist organisation instead of a functioning government. Israel did not force them.


Palestinians made many efforts for a two state solution. Israel rejected every one.


The two-state solution is there for the taking.


No it isn't. Israel has rejected every offer from the Palestinians.

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All they have to do is build a functioning state 


The religious fanatics in Israel will never allow that to happen:

"According to the rabbis all of the Holy Land between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River belongs solely to the Jews, and giving up even an inch of it is a mortal sin, punishable by death. For this sin, Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin was executed by the student of a religious university, a former settler."

- Uri Avnery, The Jewish Ayatollahs
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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #197 - Mar 7th, 2024 at 7:27am
 
wombatwoody wrote on Mar 6th, 2024 at 11:19pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 3rd, 2024 at 9:57am:
wombatwoody wrote on Mar 2nd, 2024 at 6:21pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 2nd, 2024 at 11:36am:
The Muslims chose to set up a terrorist organisation instead of a functioning government. Israel did not force them.


Palestinians made many efforts for a two state solution. Israel rejected every one.


The two-state solution is there for the taking.


No it isn't. Israel has rejected every offer from the Palestinians.


What offers has Israel rejected, and why do they need Israel's permission? They are already living there. They just have to stop shitting on their own plate.
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Reply #198 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 5:47pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 7:27am:
What offers has Israel rejected


Described in detail here:

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/israel-palestine-negotiation-idea-always-f...

Particularly,

"The January 1976 resolution was first brought to public attention by Professor Noam Chomsky - who argued it “quite clearly” demonstrated Palestinian recognition of Israel - but the draft UN Security Council resolution remains little known."

Chomsky: "The basic terms of the international consensus on the Arab-Israel conflict were expressed in a resolution brought to the Security Council in January 1976, calling for a settlement on the pre-June 1967 borders (the Green Line) with “appropriate arrangements…to guarantee…the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of all states in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries,” including Israel and a new Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. The resolution was backed by Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and the PLO — in fact “prepared” by the PLO according to Israel’s UN Ambassador Haim Herzog, now President. It was strenuously opposed by Israel and vetoed by the United States, once again in 1980."

https://chomsky.info/199112__/#:~:text=The%20basic%20terms,again%20in%201980

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"(C) Fatah’s present readiness to accept the establishment of a Palestine entity (and in fact to furnish the government of such an entity) and the pragmatic necessity for this entity to live in peace with and indeed to enter into cooperative relations with Israel"

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v23/d180#:~:text=Fatah’...

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and why do they need Israel's permission?


You're being disingenuous.

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They are already living there.


You call being confined in an open air prison camp 'living'?

I guess you would, if you were a racist supremacist Zionist Jew.
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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

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Reply #199 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 5:51pm
 
American 'Spagetti' (Italian) Western and British (true) Western Politics and their Media's are upset that Israel Military Professionalism is 'superior' to theirs.
Israel is making them look bad.
Of course, the Media would try to undermine Israel by calling it 'Genocide' (just like Ukrainians genociding Russians Wink).
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #200 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 5:55pm
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 5:51pm:
American 'Spagetti' (Italian) Western and British (true) Western Politics and their Media's are upset that Israel Military Professionalism is 'superior' to theirs.
Israel is making them look bad.
Of course, the Media would try to undermine Israel by calling it 'Genocide' (just like Ukrainians genociding Russians Wink).


It wouldn't be that 'superior' without all that billions and billions of aid to Israel.
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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

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Reply #201 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 5:58pm
 
wombatwoody wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 5:55pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 5:51pm:
American 'Spagetti' (Italian) Western and British (true) Western Politics and their Media's are upset that Israel Military Professionalism is 'superior' to theirs.
Israel is making them look bad.
Of course, the Media would try to undermine Israel by calling it 'Genocide' (just like Ukrainians genociding Russians Wink).


It wouldn't be that 'superior' without all that billions and billions of aid to Israel.

Because the World wants a better alternative to Terrorism and a Empire of Terrorism in Islam.
Israel is just doing what its paid to do.
Suck it up.
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Reply #202 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 6:17pm
 
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"(C) Fatah’s present readiness to accept the establishment of a Palestine entity (and in fact to furnish the government of such an entity) and the pragmatic necessity for this entity to live in peace with and indeed to enter into cooperative relations with Israel"


What exactly does this mean? Fatah is willing to accept itself setting up a functioning state? Where is the bit about them needing Israel's permission to do this?
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Reply #203 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:47pm
 
How many Muslims must die before Israel's right to exist is accepted?


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Reply #204 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 10:52pm
 
Don't worry. Islam won't be around for long once the death of 'Christian' France for their 'military' sins comes around like a Messiah sacrifice.

Can't you see how Moslems are heading towards the Jewish past?
The Jews heading towards the Moslem past.
The Palestinians are now becoming the displaced homeless Jews of old, scattered around the world. Wink


...of how Australia and USA are heading towards each other's past. Where USA will become the 'Criminal' and Australia will be the land of the Free (from Politics).  Wink

What goes around, comes around. Smiley
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Reply #205 - Mar 9th, 2024 at 10:10pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 4th, 2024 at 7:53am:
wombatwoody wrote on Mar 3rd, 2024 at 9:50pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 3rd, 2024 at 1:50pm:
Israel is not another expansionist empire.


Actually, it is.

In the sense that the Zionist fanatics want all the land  'from the Nile to the Euphrates'.

IOW, Greater Israel.


I am talking about reality, not your idiotic fantasy.


It's not a fantasy:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1671444180/6#6
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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

Benjamin Netanyahu, quoted in Ma’ariv, 16 April 2008
 
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Reply #206 - Mar 9th, 2024 at 10:11pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 6:17pm:
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"(C) Fatah’s present readiness to accept the establishment of a Palestine entity (and in fact to furnish the government of such an entity) and the pragmatic necessity for this entity to live in peace with and indeed to enter into cooperative relations with Israel"


What exactly does this mean? Fatah is willing to accept itself setting up a functioning state? Where is the bit about them needing Israel's permission to do this?


"them needing Israel's permission" is something you came up with and I don't know where you got it from.
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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

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Reply #207 - Mar 9th, 2024 at 10:13pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:47pm:
How many Muslims must die before Israel's right to exist is accepted?



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There is no such thing as a state’s “right to exist”, period. No such right is recognized under international law. Nor could there logically be any such right. The very concept is absurd. Individuals, not abstract political entities, have rights...

So when Zionists claim that Israel has a “right to exist”, what they are really saying is that the Zionists had a “right” to ethnically cleanse Palestine in order to establish their “Jewish state”.

Obviously, there is no such right. On the contrary, once again, under international law, ethnic cleansing is recognized as a crime against humanity.

Zionists charge that critics of Israel’s crimes against the Palestinians seek to “delegitimize” the “Jewish state”, but it matters that the unilateral declaration by the Zionists on May 14, 1948, had no legitimacy. It matters that the crime of ethnic cleansing cannot be justified or legitimized.

https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2019/03/15/why-israel-has-no-right-to-exist...
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Reply #208 - Mar 11th, 2024 at 8:10am
 
wombatwoody wrote on Mar 9th, 2024 at 10:11pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 6:17pm:
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"(C) Fatah’s present readiness to accept the establishment of a Palestine entity (and in fact to furnish the government of such an entity) and the pragmatic necessity for this entity to live in peace with and indeed to enter into cooperative relations with Israel"


What exactly does this mean? Fatah is willing to accept itself setting up a functioning state? Where is the bit about them needing Israel's permission to do this?


"them needing Israel's permission" is something you came up with and I don't know where you got it from.


All that needs to happen for there to be a two state solution is for the Palestinians to set up a functioning state. They do not need anyone else's permission or agreement. The only thing getting in the way of the nation of Palestine is the Palestinians.
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Reply #209 - Mar 12th, 2024 at 4:13pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 6th, 2024 at 10:34am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 6th, 2024 at 8:05am:
Frank wrote on Mar 4th, 2024 at 6:03pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 4th, 2024 at 2:00pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 4th, 2024 at 12:05pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 4th, 2024 at 12:01pm:
Acceptance of rule of law (whether national or international) is necessary to avoid chaos among self-interested individuals, chaos which is all too all obvious under your delusional "freedom" ideology.

Acceptance of rule of law, to avoid having to kill your opponent, is rational, something your deluded Libertarian stance cannot understand.


Who makes the law? How?


Law-makers chosen by election, consensus, or appointment.


And these three methods are as good as each other?


Dunno; the important thing is the quality of the law they legislate.

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Who decides the consensus?
Who gives the authority to the appointees?


The governing party; but again, the important thing is law which engenders shared prosperity and security. 


So what is the best way to make the best laws?


Writing law informed by a vision of shared prosperity, which is perfectly achievable in the modern AI and IT-assisted economy.

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Have the government simply print then, like money?


No.



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