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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12983 Gender:	Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys Reply #210 - Mar 12^th, 2024 at 4:16pm Frank wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:47pm: How many Muslims must die before Israel's right to exist is accepted? The number who will die before the extreme Israeli RW accept Palestine's right to exist.
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Reply #212 - Mar 14^th, 2024 at 5:41am

freediver wrote on Mar 11^th, 2024 at 8:10am:

All that needs to happen for there to be a two state solution is for the Palestinians to set up a functioning state.

It's not possible to set up a viable state with the constant expansion of settlements, illegal settlements, in the West Bank.

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They do not need anyone else's permission or agreement. The only thing getting in the way of the nation of Palestine is the Palestinians.

Nonsense.

I've shown that no Israeli leader would dare attempt to negotiate with the Palestinians after what happened to PM Rabin.

Why can't you understand that?

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Reply #213 - Mar 14^th, 2024 at 7:20am

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It's not possible to set up a viable state with the constant expansion of settlements, illegal settlements, in the West Bank.

Why not? Surely a viable state is the best antidote to this? It is actually historically rare for a failed state to exist for so long without being taken over, especially one that causes so many problems for it's neighbours. What's stopping it is that no-one wants the Palestinian people as citizens.

It is not settlements that prevents the Palestinians forming a functioning state. It is their frothing-at-the-mouth hatred of Jews and the existence of a 'Jewish' state.

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Nonsense.

I've shown that no Israeli leader would dare attempt to negotiate with the Palestinians after what happened to PM Rabin.

You are confused. The Palestinians do not need to negotiate in order to set up a functioning state. Who do you think the Israelis negotiated with when they set up Israel? All they need to do is stop shitting on their own plate. They are close enough to it already. It's just that unless they are actually starving, they put all their spare effort into starting wars they cannot win.

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Reply #214 - Mar 14^th, 2024 at 7:30am

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 12^th, 2024 at 4:13pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 6^th, 2024 at 10:34am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 6^th, 2024 at 8:05am:

Frank wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 6:03pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 2:00pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 12:05pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 12:01pm:

Acceptance of rule of law (whether national or international) is necessary to avoid chaos among self-interested individuals, chaos which is all too all obvious under your delusional "freedom" ideology.

Acceptance of rule of law, to avoid having to kill your opponent, is rational, something your deluded Libertarian stance cannot understand.

Who makes the law? How?

Law-makers chosen by election, consensus, or appointment.

And these three methods are as good as each other?

Dunno; the important thing is the quality of the law they legislate.

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Who decides the consensus?
Who gives the authority to the appointees?

The governing party; but again, the important thing is law which engenders shared prosperity and security.

So what is the best way to make the best laws?

Writing law informed by a vision of shared prosperity

That's what we have in parliamentary democracies.

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Reply #215 - Mar 14^th, 2024 at 10:40am

wombatwoody wrote on Feb 8^th, 2024 at 7:32pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 8^th, 2024 at 8:30am:

wombatwoody wrote on Feb 7^th, 2024 at 7:53pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 7^th, 2024 at 7:27am:

That is not a racist caricature Wombat.

Splitting hairs Roll Eyes

You are full of crap.

You're the one full of it. I called it splitting hairs because that's part of your infamous full-on evasive, disruptive and obstructive debating style - if it can be called debating at all.

Moreover, you're completely full of it because you ignored how John Pilger showed Israel was involved in the creation of Hamas.

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Do you have any examples to back this up

More of your evasive and obstructive so-called debating.

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or are you just parroting the terrorists propaganda for them?

So go right ahead and show how this is propaganda:

https://www.wrmea.org/1999-september/israeli-textbooks-and-childrens-literature-...

Statements made & not one example posted in the article. Roll Eyes

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Reply #216 - Mar 14^th, 2024 at 10:48am

wombatwoody wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 9:42pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 9:29pm:

What criticism of Islam do Muslims accept?
What compromise and negotiated give and take is possible with ANY muslim entity.

None.

The rest of the world - having evolved and becomig civilised - recognises the need for negotiation and compromise and adjustment.

Muslims don't. There is simply no possibility for Muslims to compromise. they cannot give up anything from the final, unalterable word of god that is the ramblings of an illiterate idiot: the Koran. They are locked into stupidity. By an illiterate Bbwianesque f***wit.

That is why they cut your head off even in the 21st century, even in Western countries. Muslims are nothing like you and me. They cannot be.

How is Islamic fundamentalism any worse than the Jewish variety?

There are many many more Islamic fundamentalists .... whole countries full of them..

Israel = 1 country - 9 million people.

surrounded by & adjoining each other are 15 Islamic States/countries.

Most of which want Israel gone or are also funding terrorist groups who are actively working on that idea.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49096 At my desk.	Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys Reply #217 - Mar 14^th, 2024 at 10:58am Quote: Israel = 1 country - 9 million people. A fair chunk of them being Arab Muslims or other non-Jews.
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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29681 Gender:	Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys Reply #218 - Mar 14^th, 2024 at 10:58am John Smith wrote on Feb 27^th, 2024 at 12:50pm: freediver wrote on Feb 27^th, 2024 at 11:19am: It really makes you wonder how many self-identifying lefties are closer to Nazis. I have many Jewish friends, does that count? And you're as outright anti-Israel with them?
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Reply #219 - Mar 14^th, 2024 at 11:05am

Frank wrote on Feb 27^th, 2024 at 8:16pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Feb 27^th, 2024 at 8:10pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 27^th, 2024 at 1:02pm:

By every measure, what is happening in Gaza is not genocide. More than that – it’s not even regionally remarkable.

Hamas’s own figures – not to be relied upon – suggest that around 28,000 people have been killed in Gaza since October. Most of the international media likes to claim these people are all innocent civilians. In fact, many of the dead will have been killed by the quarter or so Hamas and Islamic Jihad rockets that fall short and land inside Gaza.

Then there are the more than 9,000 Hamas terrorists who have been killed by the Israel Defence Forces. As Lord Roberts of Belgravia recently pointed out, that means there is fewer than a two to one ratio of civilians to terrorists killed: ‘An astonishingly low ratio for modern urban warfare where the terrorists routinely use civilians as human shields.’ Most western armies would dream of such a low civilian casualty count. But because Israel is involved (‘Jews are news’) the libellous hyperbole is everywhere.

For almost 20 years since Israel withdrew from Gaza, we have heard the same allegations. Israel has been accused of committing genocide in Gaza during exchanges with Hamas in 2009, 2012 and 2014. As a claim it is demonstrably, obviously false. When Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005, the population of the Strip was around 1.3 million. Today it is more than two million, with a male life expectancy higher than in parts of Scotland. During the same period, the Palestinian population in the West Bank grew by a million. Either the Israelis weren’t committing genocide, or they tried to commit genocide but are uniquely bad at it. Which is it? Well, when it comes to Israel it seems people don’t have to choose. Everything and anything can be true at once.
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He obviously hasn't heard of The Goldstone Report.

When Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005, the population of the Strip was around 1.3 million. Today it is more than two million, with a male life expectancy higher than in parts of Scotland. During the same period, the Palestinian population in the West Bank grew by a million. Either the Israelis weren’t committing genocide, or they tried to commit genocide but are uniquely bad at it. Which is it?

Similar to the propagandist/activists claims that a certain ethnic group in Australia is still being subjected to genocide.... yet their population has exploded by 25% since 2015. Grin

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Reply #220 - Mar 14^th, 2024 at 11:07am

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 28^th, 2024 at 2:42pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 28^th, 2024 at 2:32pm:

The Israelis should continue refraining from doing to the Palestinians what the Palestinians would do to them if the situation were reversed.

Er....Israelis killed on Oct.7th - c. 1,200; Palestinians killed since then - c. 30,000.

"Continue refraining"?

30,000 since October 2023?

Who quoted those stats?

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Reply #221 - Mar 14^th, 2024 at 11:09am

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 28^th, 2024 at 4:26pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 28^th, 2024 at 3:44pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 28^th, 2024 at 2:54pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 28^th, 2024 at 2:32pm:

The Israelis should continue refraining from doing to the Palestinians what the Palestinians would do to them if the situation were reversed.

So you believe the Israelis are no better than Hamas for doing what Hama would do....What changed your mind???

Huh

I believe you are confused Phil.

You are the one who is confused as usual....You claim the Israelis are acting like Hamas....Own goal!!!

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No he didn't. DH Roll Eyes

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Reply #222 - Mar 14^th, 2024 at 11:12am

wombatwoody wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 9:42pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 9:29pm:

What criticism of Islam do Muslims accept?
What compromise and negotiated give and take is possible with ANY muslim entity.

None.

The rest of the world - having evolved and becomig civilised - recognises the need for negotiation and compromise and adjustment.

Muslims don't. There is simply no possibility for Muslims to compromise. they cannot give up anything from the final, unalterable word of god that is the ramblings of an illiterate idiot: the Koran. They are locked into stupidity. By an illiterate Bbwianesque f***wit.

That is why they cut your head off even in the 21st century, even in Western countries. Muslims are nothing like you and me. They cannot be.

How is Islamic fundamentalism any worse than the Jewish variety?

For starters, you don't have hordes of hashidim marching down Bondi Road screaming gas the Mohammedans or that there will be no peace on earth until all the sons of Mohammed and camels and goats are eliminated.
That's a pretty noticeable difference.

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Reply #223 - Mar 14^th, 2024 at 11:22am

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 29^th, 2024 at 8:26am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 29^th, 2024 at 7:55am:

freediver wrote on Feb 29^th, 2024 at 7:35am:

Do you mean like Wombat's 'research' where you believe anything you read about Jews on the internet?

Hi Freediver , as one should observe

I am in love with Humanity and all humans

yet one aspect of this hatred towards the Jews

is missing .. have you heard of

[highlight]The Khazarian Empire ? [/highlight]

Oh excuse one such as I am Freediver, you may have

overlooked this obvious and blatant question here ,

are you being shy ? 🤷‍♂️

It's intended relevance by you is?

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The ruling elite of the Khazars was said by Judah Halevi and Abraham ibn Daud to have converted to Rabbinic Judaism in the 8th century,[18] but the scope of the conversion to Judaism within the Khazar Khanate remains uncertain.[19]

Where the Khazars dispersed after the fall of the Empire is subject to many conjectures. Proposals have been made regarding the possibility of a Khazar factor in the ethnogenesis of numerous peoples, such as the Hazaras, Hungarians, the Kazakhs, the Cossacks of the Don region and of Ukraine, the Muslim Kumyks, the Turkic-speaking Krymchaks and their Crimean neighbours the Crimean Karaites, the Moldavian Csángós, the Mountain Jews, even some Subbotniks (on the basis of their Ukrainian and Cossack origin and others).[20][21][22] The late 19th century saw the emergence of the theory that the core of today's Ashkenazi Jews are descended from a hypothetical Khazarian Jewish diaspora which migrated westward from modern-day Russia and Ukraine into modern-day France and Germany. Linguistic and genetic studies have not supported the theory of a Khazar connection to Ashkenazi Jewry. The theory still finds occasional support, but most scholars view it with considerable scepticism.[23][19] The theory is sometimes [highlight]associated with antisemitism[24] and anti-Zionism.[/highlight][25]

In Oghuz Turkic languages, the Caspian Sea is still named the "Khazar Sea", an enduring legacy of the medieval Khazar state.

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