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Reply #225 - Mar 14^th, 2024 at 11:33am

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2024 at 7:01pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2024 at 6:51pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2024 at 6:34pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2024 at 5:52pm:

Long ago - the Romans used their creation of Palestine to undermine Jewish occupation of the lands of Israel & Judah. Thus began the 'expulsion' of Jews to around the world - now 'homeless'.

What goes around, comes around.

Now the Jews around the world are returning to the return of Israel thanks to the Great Britain (the true beacon of Political hope for the world). The Roman (Italian) induced Palestinians have now found themselves fleeing to the wide world, for fear of remaining and being executed for Global Murder, etc against another nation (Israel).
Now they will be the 'Homeless' as they attempt to gather 'sympathy' for their plight of fleeing 'their' Crime.

Great Britain proving itself 'greater' than the Roman Empire too. Wink

The Italians are hating that, aye. Lips Sealed

So God gave the land to the Jews, so the Arabs are the occupiers?

No uneducated American of conspiracies, CIA secrets for Propaganda and other stupidies.
The Jews have always been there as a 'People' before they adopted Judaism.
Most of that part of the world was Zoroastrianism and even earlier Paganisms. It just that the people in that area decided to embrace Judaism and become 'Jews' and thus were so for many many centuries, even before 'Rome' and Christianity... and definitely before Mohommedism.

The Roman Palestine was not a 'Moslem' Palestine. It was an area set aside for those Arabs who were still with Paganisms or Zoroastrianisms.
...so the Palestine of today, being a Mohommedistic Palestine is just a recent existence.

...and a failed one.

And what is that supposed to mean?

You should get a time out for altering some one elses post ... that's dishonest & weak as piss.

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #226 - Mar 14^th, 2024 at 11:40am

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 6^th, 2024 at 11:19pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2024 at 9:57am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2024 at 6:21pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2024 at 11:36am:

The Muslims chose to set up a terrorist organisation instead of a functioning government. Israel did not force them.

Palestinians made many efforts for a two state solution. Israel rejected every one.

The two-state solution is there for the taking.

No it isn't. Israel has rejected every offer from the Palestinians.

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All they have to do is build a functioning state

The religious fanatics in Israel will never allow that to happen:

"According to the rabbis all of the Holy Land between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River belongs solely to the Jews, and giving up even an inch of it is a mortal sin, punishable by death. For this sin, Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin was executed by the student of a religious university, a former settler."

- Uri Avnery, The Jewish Ayatollahs

Incorrect ...not Palestinians ... Hamas. They run the show.

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29681 Gender:	Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys Reply #227 - Mar 14^th, 2024 at 11:45am it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 12^th, 2024 at 7:38pm: 👀 I know who continually plays the victim card .. it isn't Israel. Your whole anti-jewish stance is based on the Palestinians being the victims of the big bad Jews. Get along home Windy Sindy.
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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29681 Gender:	Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys Reply #228 - Mar 14^th, 2024 at 11:46am freediver wrote on Mar 14^th, 2024 at 10:58am: Quote: Israel = 1 country - 9 million people. A fair chunk of them being Arab Muslims or other non-Jews. Correct
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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #229 - Mar 14^th, 2024 at 2:27pm

Gnads wrote on Mar 14^th, 2024 at 11:45am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 12^th, 2024 at 7:38pm:

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I know who continually plays the victim card .. it isn't Israel.

Your whole anti-jewish stance is based on the Palestinians being the victims of the big bad Jews.

Get along home Windy Sindy.

Israel would not exist if Uncle Sam was not an avowed racist.

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #230 - Mar 15^th, 2024 at 2:07am

freediver wrote on Mar 14^th, 2024 at 7:20am:

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It's not possible to set up a viable state with the constant expansion of settlements, illegal settlements, in the West Bank.

Why not?

Because the continued expansion of Israeli settlements further entrenches the occupation, and encroaches on Palestinian land and natural resources.

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It is not settlements that prevents the Palestinians forming a functioning state.

Expansion of settlements undermines the prospects of establishing a contiguous and viable Palestinian state as part of a negotiated two-state solution.

Palestinian leaders have long said that the ultimate goal of the occupying state, Israel, is to complete 'the process of Judaization' of the West Bank and change its historical, legal and demographic reality.

They are right.

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It is their frothing-at-the-mouth hatred of Jews and the existence of a 'Jewish' state.

The people of Palestine, Muslim, Christian and others, lived in peace side by side with Jews for centuries up until around 120 years ago.

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You are confused. The Palestinians do not need to negotiate in order to set up a functioning state. Who do you think the Israelis negotiated with when they set up Israel? All they need to do is stop shitting on their own plate. They are close enough to it already. It's just that unless they are actually starving, they put all their spare effort into starting wars they cannot win.

The term 'negotiated two-state solution' appears again and again in UN documents and resolutions.

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #231 - Mar 15^th, 2024 at 2:08am

Gnads wrote on Mar 14^th, 2024 at 11:33am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2024 at 7:01pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2024 at 6:51pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2024 at 6:34pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2024 at 5:52pm:

Long ago - the Romans used their creation of Palestine to undermine Jewish occupation of the lands of Israel & Judah. Thus began the 'expulsion' of Jews to around the world - now 'homeless'.

What goes around, comes around.

Now the Jews around the world are returning to the return of Israel thanks to the Great Britain (the true beacon of Political hope for the world). The Roman (Italian) induced Palestinians have now found themselves fleeing to the wide world, for fear of remaining and being executed for Global Murder, etc against another nation (Israel).
Now they will be the 'Homeless' as they attempt to gather 'sympathy' for their plight of fleeing 'their' Crime.

Great Britain proving itself 'greater' than the Roman Empire too. Wink

The Italians are hating that, aye. Lips Sealed

So God gave the land to the Jews, so the Arabs are the occupiers?

No uneducated American of conspiracies, CIA secrets for Propaganda and other stupidies.
The Jews have always been there as a 'People' before they adopted Judaism.
Most of that part of the world was Zoroastrianism and even earlier Paganisms. It just that the people in that area decided to embrace Judaism and become 'Jews' and thus were so for many many centuries, even before 'Rome' and Christianity... and definitely before Mohommedism.

The Roman Palestine was not a 'Moslem' Palestine. It was an area set aside for those Arabs who were still with Paganisms or Zoroastrianisms.
...so the Palestine of today, being a Mohommedistic Palestine is just a recent existence.

...and a failed one.

And what is that supposed to mean?

You should get a time out for altering some one elses post ... that's dishonest & weak as piss.

Got no idea how that got there.

In addition to it not making sense there's a blatant spelling error. Not my style.

One of the mods playing silly buggers? It certainly wasn't me.

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #232 - Mar 15^th, 2024 at 2:23am

Gnads wrote on Mar 14^th, 2024 at 11:40am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 6^th, 2024 at 11:19pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2024 at 9:57am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2024 at 6:21pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2024 at 11:36am:

The Muslims chose to set up a terrorist organisation instead of a functioning government. Israel did not force them.

Palestinians made many efforts for a two state solution. Israel rejected every one.

The two-state solution is there for the taking.

No it isn't. Israel has rejected every offer from the Palestinians.

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All they have to do is build a functioning state

The religious fanatics in Israel will never allow that to happen:

"According to the rabbis all of the Holy Land between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River belongs solely to the Jews, and giving up even an inch of it is a mortal sin, punishable by death. For this sin, Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin was executed by the student of a religious university, a former settler."

- Uri Avnery, The Jewish Ayatollahs

Incorrect ...not Palestinians ... Hamas. They run the show.

Hamas wasn't formed until 1987. My link says,

'In January 1976, the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO) offered to negotiate the terms of this "two-state" consensus. With Washington’s support, Israel refused the good-faith Palestinian proposal.'

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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

Benjamin Netanyahu, quoted in Ma’ariv, 16 April 2008

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #233 - Mar 15^th, 2024 at 7:21am

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 15^th, 2024 at 2:07am:

freediver wrote on Mar 14^th, 2024 at 7:20am:

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It's not possible to set up a viable state with the constant expansion of settlements, illegal settlements, in the West Bank.

Why not?

Because the continued expansion of Israeli settlements further entrenches the occupation, and encroaches on Palestinian land and natural resources.

Do you understand that repeating yourself does not actually explain why you think that?

Do you think that every other nation that currently exists or has existed, owes it's very existence to this sort of thing never happening to it?

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #234 - Mar 15^th, 2024 at 8:14am

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 15^th, 2024 at 2:23am:

'In January 1976, the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO) offered to negotiate the terms of this "two-state" consensus. With Washington’s support, Israel refused the good-faith Palestinian proposal.'

The text says "Hamas considers the establishment of a Palestinian state, sovereign and complete, on the basis of the June 4, 1967, with Jerusalem as its capital and the provision for all the refugees to return to their homeland."

Needless to say, this doe not mean the return of all Jews to the various Arab countries they were expelled from and restoration of heir property. It just means flooding Israel with Arabs.

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #235 - Mar 15^th, 2024 at 8:49am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 14^th, 2024 at 2:27pm:

Gnads wrote on Mar 14^th, 2024 at 11:45am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 12^th, 2024 at 7:38pm:

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I know who continually plays the victim card .. it isn't Israel.

Your whole anti-jewish stance is based on the Palestinians being the victims of the big bad Jews.

Get along home Windy Sindy.

Israel would not exist if Uncle Sam was not an avowed racist.

They'd still be there & still kicking mad islamic Arab arses.

Get along home Windy Sindy

I'll tar & feather you some time.

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #236 - Mar 15^th, 2024 at 8:53am

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 15^th, 2024 at 2:23am:

Gnads wrote on Mar 14^th, 2024 at 11:40am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 6^th, 2024 at 11:19pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2024 at 9:57am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2024 at 6:21pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2024 at 11:36am:

The Muslims chose to set up a terrorist organisation instead of a functioning government. Israel did not force them.

Palestinians made many efforts for a two state solution. Israel rejected every one.

The two-state solution is there for the taking.

No it isn't. Israel has rejected every offer from the Palestinians.

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All they have to do is build a functioning state

The religious fanatics in Israel will never allow that to happen:

"According to the rabbis all of the Holy Land between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River belongs solely to the Jews, and giving up even an inch of it is a mortal sin, punishable by death. For this sin, Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin was executed by the student of a religious university, a former settler."

- Uri Avnery, The Jewish Ayatollahs

Incorrect ...not Palestinians ... Hamas. They run the show.

Hamas wasn't formed until 1987. My link says,

'In January 1976, the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO) offered to negotiate the terms of this "two-state" consensus. With Washington’s support, Israel refused the good-faith Palestinian proposal.'

Hamas formed 37 years ago .... they've been running the show roughly about the same amount of time.

What Yasser CouldntCrackafat & the PLO did was irrelevant back then... the PLO were terrorists too.

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #237 - Mar 16^th, 2024 at 7:38pm

freediver wrote on Mar 15^th, 2024 at 7:21am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 15^th, 2024 at 2:07am:

freediver wrote on Mar 14^th, 2024 at 7:20am:

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It's not possible to set up a viable state with the constant expansion of settlements, illegal settlements, in the West Bank.

Why not?

Because the continued expansion of Israeli settlements further entrenches the occupation, and encroaches on Palestinian land and natural resources.

Do you understand that repeating yourself does not actually explain why you think that?

Do you think that every other nation that currently exists or has existed, owes it's very existence to this sort of thing never happening to it?

Unsurprisingly, you snipped most of my reply. In particular, this:

The people of Palestine, Muslim, Christian and others, lived in peace side by side with Jews for centuries up until around 120 years ago.

Yet now when they attempt to defend themselves and their property, you say, It is their frothing-at-the-mouth hatred of Jews

No it's not their hatred of Jews. The fact that they lived side by side with Jews in peace for centuries until Zionism arrived proves that.

You are ignoring and disregarding their right to defend themselves and their property.

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Do you understand that repeating yourself does not actually explain why you think that?

Why I think that? It's not a matter of opinion, it's fact. Palestinians' property is constantly being destroyed as the settlements, illegal settlements, expand - which then further emboldens the settlers to commit more violence:

And again:

And things have got much much worse since 7 Oct.

You are also ignoring - or perhaps you don't understand - that

the root cause of the conflict is the rejection of Palestinians' fundamental human rights, including their right to self-determination.

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Reply #238 - Mar 16^th, 2024 at 9:19pm

Woody do you think that every other nation that currently exists or has existed, owes it's very existence to this sort of thing never happening to it?

Why do you think that Muslims should get to blame their thirst for endless revenge on others, while everyone else is considered to be responsible for their own actions?

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Yet now when they attempt to defend themselves and their property, you say, It is their frothing-at-the-mouth hatred of Jews

They are not defending themselves. They are trying to wipe out the Jews. Why are you incapable f seeing the difference?

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No it's not their hatred of Jews.

It is their hatred of Jews, and their belief in the ordained supremacy of Muslims over Jews. Which of course fuels their hatred of Jews, because the Jews won't submit to Islam like Muhammad said they should.

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The fact that they lived side by side with Jews in peace for centuries until Zionism arrived proves that.

No it doesn't. Muslims slaughtering Jews goes way back to the days of Muhammad. What you call peace just means everyone else putting up with it, their very existence depending on the whim of Muslims.

By your logic we ought to give up our democracy and our human rights and our way of life as soon as someone threatens that violence is the price of maintaining it. You hold the Jews to a standard that you would never even think to hold yourself, because you are a hypocrite.

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Reply #239 - Mar 19^th, 2024 at 7:42pm

freediver wrote on Mar 16^th, 2024 at 9:19pm:

Woody do you think that every other nation that currently exists or has existed, owes it's very existence to this sort of thing never happening to it?

Why do you think that Muslims should get to blame their thirst for endless revenge on others, while everyone else is considered to be responsible for their own actions?

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Yet now when they attempt to defend themselves and their property, you say, It is their frothing-at-the-mouth hatred of Jews

They are not defending themselves.

They are trying to wipe out the Jews.

Why are you incapable f seeing the difference?

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No it's not their hatred of Jews.

It is their hatred of Jews, and their belief in the ordained supremacy of Muslims over Jews. Which of course fuels their hatred of Jews, because the Jews won't submit to Islam like Muhammad said they should.

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The fact that they lived side by side with Jews in peace for centuries until Zionism arrived proves that.

No it doesn't. Muslims slaughtering Jews goes way back to the days of Muhammad. What you call peace just means everyone else putting up with it, their very existence depending on the whim of Muslims.

By your logic we ought to give up our democracy and our human rights and our way of life as soon as someone threatens that violence is the price of maintaining it. You hold the Jews to a standard that you would never even think to hold yourself, because you are a hypocrite.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/ethnic_cleansing.jpg

That's where your whole argument fails, because you are conflating Jews with Zionists.

As I said, Palestinians, (not just Muslims, but Christians and others) lived side by side in peace for centuries and centuries and centuries and no effort was made to 'slaughter Jews', as you so often like to put it. I showed this in the Zionism thread but you continue to ignore it.

And the 2017 Hamas document stated that their struggle was not with Jews per se because of their religion but with Zionism.

As for your pic, look up The Jews of Iraq by Naeim Giladi.

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