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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #300 - Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 3:28pm

wombatwoody wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 2:28pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 5:20am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 29^th, 2024 at 11:07pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 28^th, 2024 at 9:00am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 27^th, 2024 at 10:31pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 26^th, 2024 at 7:56am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 26^th, 2024 at 5:21am:

freediver wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2024 at 7:18am:

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What 'democracy' are you talking about? Because I showed that Western-style democracy is incompatible with a Jewish state.

Can you explain why the only 'Jewish' state in existence has a western style democracy?

It doesn't.

How does the style differ?

By the many discriminatory laws which amount to a system of apartheid.

So it's not the democracy, you just disagree with what people vote for?

What a pathetic dodge.

Are you saying that whether it is actually a democracy is somehow irrelevant to whether it is a democracy?

What an idiotic response!

Yes. All of yours are. Would you like to explain why you think Israel is not a democracy? Or would you prefer to give us another idiotic response?

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #301 - Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 3:35pm

wombatwoody wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 2:29pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 10:11am:

The UN creates nothing. That is why even Hammond has the word in inverted commas, "created".

Except those are quotation marks not inverted commas. Or don't you know the difference?

Frank wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 10:11am:

The UN voted to approve the resolution for the creation of two states within specified borders. The Jewish leadership accepted the vote and created the State of Israel by declaring it, along the lines of the UN resolution, thereby giving the new state UN endorsed legitimacy.

Why do you keep repeating the same nonsense over and over again? If that article didn't suit you then try an a/v version:

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(Hammond) explained why the belief that the United Nations (UN) created Israel is a myth, and how, in truth, General Assembly Resolution 181 of November 1947 neither partitioned Palestine nor conferred any legal authority to the Zionist leadership for their unilateral declaration of the existence of the state of Israel on May 14, 1948...

(Hammond) also explained briefly why the partition plan was totally inequitable and indeed premised on a rejection of the Palestinians’ right to self-determination...

https://www.jeremyrhammond.com/2024/03/29/interview-un-creation-israel/

Frank wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 10:11am:

The Arabs, never ever wanting or endorsing ANY Jewish state in Israel, rejected the UN resolution, rejected the declaration of creating of Israel and immediately attacked it to stangle it at birth. They failed to kill it off. Subsequently the Arabs were offered another 5 opportunities to create a Palestinian state. They rejected all of them

I showed you here how that wasn't the case:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1671444180/1078#1078

So why over 2 months later are you still repeating the same lie?

inverted comma
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plural noun: inverted commas

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The ret of your post is of the same confused nonsense.

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #302 - Apr 4^th, 2024 at 4:28pm

freediver wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 3:28pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 2:28pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 5:20am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 29^th, 2024 at 11:07pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 28^th, 2024 at 9:00am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 27^th, 2024 at 10:31pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 26^th, 2024 at 7:56am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 26^th, 2024 at 5:21am:

freediver wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2024 at 7:18am:

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What 'democracy' are you talking about? Because I showed that Western-style democracy is incompatible with a Jewish state.

Can you explain why the only 'Jewish' state in existence has a western style democracy?

It doesn't.

How does the style differ?

By the many discriminatory laws which amount to a system of apartheid.

So it's not the democracy, you just disagree with what people vote for?

What a pathetic dodge.

Are you saying that whether it is actually a democracy is somehow irrelevant to whether it is a democracy?

What an idiotic response!

Yes. All of yours are. Would you like to explain why you think Israel is not a democracy? Or would you prefer to give us another idiotic response?

Er FD, you lost the debate when you ignored - as per usual - W's comment, namely:

"By the many discriminatory laws which amount to a system of apartheid".

You have to show Israel DOESN'T have discriminatory laws.

For my part, I'm more interested in the failure of the UN to securely create two states side by side as per the Partition Plan.

A double whammy for Palestinians, who were expected to agree to confiscation of more than half of Palestine, under the Plan.

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #303 - Apr 4^th, 2024 at 4:37pm

Frank wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 3:35pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 2:29pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 10:11am:

The UN creates nothing. That is why even Hammond has the word in inverted commas, "created".

Except those are quotation marks not inverted commas. Or don't you know the difference?

Frank wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 10:11am:

The UN voted to approve the resolution for the creation of two states within specified borders. The Jewish leadership accepted the vote and created the State of Israel by declaring it, along the lines of the UN resolution, thereby giving the new state UN endorsed legitimacy.

Why do you keep repeating the same nonsense over and over again? If that article didn't suit you then try an a/v version:

Quote:

(Hammond) explained why the belief that the United Nations (UN) created Israel is a myth, and how, in truth, General Assembly Resolution 181 of November 1947 neither partitioned Palestine nor conferred any legal authority to the Zionist leadership for their unilateral declaration of the existence of the state of Israel on May 14, 1948...

(Hammond) also explained briefly why the partition plan was totally inequitable and indeed premised on a rejection of the Palestinians’ right to self-determination...

https://www.jeremyrhammond.com/2024/03/29/interview-un-creation-israel/

Frank wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 10:11am:

The Arabs, never ever wanting or endorsing ANY Jewish state in Israel, rejected the UN resolution, rejected the declaration of creating of Israel and immediately attacked it to stangle it at birth. They failed to kill it off. Subsequently the Arabs were offered another 5 opportunities to create a Palestinian state. They rejected all of them

I showed you here how that wasn't the case:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1671444180/1078#1078

So why over 2 months later are you still repeating the same lie?

inverted comma
noun BRITISH
plural noun: inverted commas

another term for quotation mark.

The ret of your post is of the same confused nonsense.

Frank, your initial comment is wrong.

The UN creates international law, in this case via a vote on the Palestine Partition Plan.

That the UN stuffed up the implementation of the Plan is another matter.

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #304 - Apr 4^th, 2024 at 4:42pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 4:37pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 3:35pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 2:29pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 10:11am:

The UN creates nothing. That is why even Hammond has the word in inverted commas, "created".

Except those are quotation marks not inverted commas. Or don't you know the difference?

Frank wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 10:11am:

The UN voted to approve the resolution for the creation of two states within specified borders. The Jewish leadership accepted the vote and created the State of Israel by declaring it, along the lines of the UN resolution, thereby giving the new state UN endorsed legitimacy.

Why do you keep repeating the same nonsense over and over again? If that article didn't suit you then try an a/v version:

Quote:

(Hammond) explained why the belief that the United Nations (UN) created Israel is a myth, and how, in truth, General Assembly Resolution 181 of November 1947 neither partitioned Palestine nor conferred any legal authority to the Zionist leadership for their unilateral declaration of the existence of the state of Israel on May 14, 1948...

(Hammond) also explained briefly why the partition plan was totally inequitable and indeed premised on a rejection of the Palestinians’ right to self-determination...

https://www.jeremyrhammond.com/2024/03/29/interview-un-creation-israel/

Frank wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 10:11am:

The Arabs, never ever wanting or endorsing ANY Jewish state in Israel, rejected the UN resolution, rejected the declaration of creating of Israel and immediately attacked it to stangle it at birth. They failed to kill it off. Subsequently the Arabs were offered another 5 opportunities to create a Palestinian state. They rejected all of them

I showed you here how that wasn't the case:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1671444180/1078#1078

So why over 2 months later are you still repeating the same lie?

inverted comma
noun BRITISH
plural noun: inverted commas

another term for quotation mark.

The ret of your post is of the same confused nonsense.

Frank, your initial comment is wrong.

The UN creates international law, in this case via a vote on the Palestine Partition Plan.

That the UN stuffed up the implementation of the Plan is another matter.

Nonsense. The UN creates no law.
It passes resolutions and treaties to which member states can agree or not.

No laws. It gas no authority or mandate.

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #305 - Apr 4^th, 2024 at 4:59pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 4:28pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 3:28pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 2:28pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 5:20am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 29^th, 2024 at 11:07pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 28^th, 2024 at 9:00am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 27^th, 2024 at 10:31pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 26^th, 2024 at 7:56am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 26^th, 2024 at 5:21am:

freediver wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2024 at 7:18am:

Quote:

What 'democracy' are you talking about? Because I showed that Western-style democracy is incompatible with a Jewish state.

Can you explain why the only 'Jewish' state in existence has a western style democracy?

It doesn't.

How does the style differ?

By the many discriminatory laws which amount to a system of apartheid.

So it's not the democracy, you just disagree with what people vote for?

What a pathetic dodge.

Are you saying that whether it is actually a democracy is somehow irrelevant to whether it is a democracy?

What an idiotic response!

Yes. All of yours are. Would you like to explain why you think Israel is not a democracy? Or would you prefer to give us another idiotic response?

Er FD, you lost the debate when you ignored - as per usual - W's comment, namely:

"By the many discriminatory laws which amount to a system of apartheid".

You have to show Israel DOESN'T have discriminatory laws.

For my part, I'm more interested in the failure of the UN to securely create two states side by side as per the Partition Plan.

A double whammy for Palestinians, who were expected to agree to confiscation of more than half of Palestine, under the Plan.

We are talking about whether Israel is a democracy. Do you know what democracy is? I realise you might be a bit confused, given that you think an institution that is responsible for 100 million deaths and which actively punishes dissent somehow runs China on direct democracy.

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #306 - Apr 4^th, 2024 at 5:20pm

freediver wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 4:59pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 4:28pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 3:28pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 2:28pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 5:20am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 29^th, 2024 at 11:07pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 28^th, 2024 at 9:00am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 27^th, 2024 at 10:31pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 26^th, 2024 at 7:56am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 26^th, 2024 at 5:21am:

freediver wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2024 at 7:18am:

Quote:

What 'democracy' are you talking about? Because I showed that Western-style democracy is incompatible with a Jewish state.

Can you explain why the only 'Jewish' state in existence has a western style democracy?

It doesn't.

How does the style differ?

By the many discriminatory laws which amount to a system of apartheid.

So it's not the democracy, you just disagree with what people vote for?

What a pathetic dodge.

Are you saying that whether it is actually a democracy is somehow irrelevant to whether it is a democracy?

What an idiotic response!

Yes. All of yours are. Would you like to explain why you think Israel is not a democracy? Or would you prefer to give us another idiotic response?

Er FD, you lost the debate when you ignored - as per usual - W's comment, namely:

"By the many discriminatory laws which amount to a system of apartheid".

You have to show Israel DOESN'T have discriminatory laws.

For my part, I'm more interested in the failure of the UN to securely create two states side by side as per the Partition Plan.

A double whammy for Palestinians, who were expected to agree to confiscation of more than half of Palestine, under the Plan.

We are talking about whether Israel is a democracy.

And you failed to refute W's observation that Israel is benighted by disciminatory policies making it an apartheid state.

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Do you know what democracy is?

Yes: "it's the worst form of goverment" ...do try to keep up.

I'll settle for whichever government can implement common prosperity.

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I realise you might be a bit confused, given that you think an institution that is responsible for 100 million deaths and which actively punishes dissent somehow runs China on direct democracy.

I realize you are incapable of thinking for yourself, least of all debate - with your brain crippled by fake "freedom" ideology: but you serve a useful function on this forum.

Note: while I suspect W accepts the absurd concept of legal war, as you do, he at least is prepared to call out genocide when it is happening before our very eyes, while Netanyahu is snivelling about self-defence.

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #307 - Apr 5^th, 2024 at 5:07am

freediver wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 3:28pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 2:28pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 5:20am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 29^th, 2024 at 11:07pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 28^th, 2024 at 9:00am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 27^th, 2024 at 10:31pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 26^th, 2024 at 7:56am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 26^th, 2024 at 5:21am:

freediver wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2024 at 7:18am:

Quote:

What 'democracy' are you talking about? Because I showed that Western-style democracy is incompatible with a Jewish state.

Can you explain why the only 'Jewish' state in existence has a western style democracy?

It doesn't.

How does the style differ?

By the many discriminatory laws which amount to a system of apartheid.

So it's not the democracy, you just disagree with what people vote for?

What a pathetic dodge.

Are you saying that whether it is actually a democracy is somehow irrelevant to whether it is a democracy?

What an idiotic response!

Yes. All of yours are. Would you like to explain why you think Israel is not a democracy? Or would you prefer to give us another idiotic response?

Already done so!

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #308 - Apr 5^th, 2024 at 5:11am

Frank wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 3:35pm:

inverted comma
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plural noun: inverted commas

another term for quotation mark.

Strictly speaking, no, as in the difference in American and British usage. Ever heard a yank use the term, inverted commas?

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The ret of your post is of the same confused nonsense.

What part is confusing?

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #309 - Apr 5^th, 2024 at 5:28am

wombatwoody wrote on Apr 5^th, 2024 at 5:07am:

freediver wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 3:28pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 2:28pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 5:20am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 29^th, 2024 at 11:07pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 28^th, 2024 at 9:00am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 27^th, 2024 at 10:31pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 26^th, 2024 at 7:56am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 26^th, 2024 at 5:21am:

freediver wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2024 at 7:18am:

Quote:

What 'democracy' are you talking about? Because I showed that Western-style democracy is incompatible with a Jewish state.

Can you explain why the only 'Jewish' state in existence has a western style democracy?

It doesn't.

How does the style differ?

By the many discriminatory laws which amount to a system of apartheid.

So it's not the democracy, you just disagree with what people vote for?

What a pathetic dodge.

Are you saying that whether it is actually a democracy is somehow irrelevant to whether it is a democracy?

What an idiotic response!

Yes. All of yours are. Would you like to explain why you think Israel is not a democracy? Or would you prefer to give us another idiotic response?

Already done so!

Your "explanations" were nothing to do with whether it is a democracy.

Do you know what the word means?

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #310 - Apr 5^th, 2024 at 8:42am

wombatwoody wrote on Apr 5^th, 2024 at 5:11am:

Frank wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 3:35pm:

inverted comma
noun BRITISH
plural noun: inverted commas

another term for quotation mark.

Strictly speaking, no, as in the difference in American and British usage. Ever heard a yank use the term, inverted commas?

So now the yanks are the yardstick of English usage?

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What part is confusing?

The rest of the post is confused (not confusing) nonsense.

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #311 - Apr 5^th, 2024 at 1:48pm

Frank wrote on Apr 5^th, 2024 at 8:42am:

wombatwoody wrote on Apr 5^th, 2024 at 5:11am:

Frank wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 3:35pm:

inverted comma
noun BRITISH
plural noun: inverted commas

another term for quotation mark.

Strictly speaking, no, as in the difference in American and British usage. Ever heard a yank use the term, inverted commas?

So now the yanks are the yardstick of English usage?

Quote:

What part is confusing?

The rest of the post is confused (not confusing) nonsense.

Says the guy who said "the UN doesn't "create" (sic) anything"....

Hint: it "creates" international law.

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #312 - Apr 7^th, 2024 at 3:07am

freediver wrote on Apr 5^th, 2024 at 5:28am:

wombatwoody wrote on Apr 5^th, 2024 at 5:07am:

freediver wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 3:28pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 2:28pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 5:20am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 29^th, 2024 at 11:07pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 28^th, 2024 at 9:00am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 27^th, 2024 at 10:31pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 26^th, 2024 at 7:56am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 26^th, 2024 at 5:21am:

freediver wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2024 at 7:18am:

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What 'democracy' are you talking about? Because I showed that Western-style democracy is incompatible with a Jewish state.

Can you explain why the only 'Jewish' state in existence has a western style democracy?

It doesn't.

How does the style differ?

By the many discriminatory laws which amount to a system of apartheid.

So it's not the democracy, you just disagree with what people vote for?

What a pathetic dodge.

Are you saying that whether it is actually a democracy is somehow irrelevant to whether it is a democracy?

What an idiotic response!

Yes. All of yours are. Would you like to explain why you think Israel is not a democracy? Or would you prefer to give us another idiotic response?

Already done so!

Your "explanations" were nothing to do with whether it is a democracy.

Would you care to explain why you feel a racist apartheid state is a democracy?

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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #314 - Apr 7^th, 2024 at 6:06am

wombatwoody wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 3:07am:

freediver wrote on Apr 5^th, 2024 at 5:28am:

wombatwoody wrote on Apr 5^th, 2024 at 5:07am:

freediver wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 3:28pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 2:28pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 5:20am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 29^th, 2024 at 11:07pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 28^th, 2024 at 9:00am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 27^th, 2024 at 10:31pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 26^th, 2024 at 7:56am:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 26^th, 2024 at 5:21am:

freediver wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2024 at 7:18am:

Quote:

What 'democracy' are you talking about? Because I showed that Western-style democracy is incompatible with a Jewish state.

Can you explain why the only 'Jewish' state in existence has a western style democracy?

It doesn't.

How does the style differ?

By the many discriminatory laws which amount to a system of apartheid.

So it's not the democracy, you just disagree with what people vote for?

What a pathetic dodge.

Are you saying that whether it is actually a democracy is somehow irrelevant to whether it is a democracy?

What an idiotic response!

Yes. All of yours are. Would you like to explain why you think Israel is not a democracy? Or would you prefer to give us another idiotic response?

Already done so!

Your "explanations" were nothing to do with whether it is a democracy.

Would you care to explain why you feel a racist apartheid state is a democracy?

Do you not know how to google these things for yourself? Or read? I have already provided this information to you right here in this thread.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_system_of_government

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The Israeli system of government is based on parliamentary democracy.

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