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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #390 - Apr 29^th, 2024 at 3:18pm

freediver wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 7:52am:

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And I'll ask again, How can there be democracy without equality for all citizens?

Are you saying only communist countries can be democracies?

Here we can see FD's favourite debating technique, ie ask a question by inventing an absurd distortion of the original statement.

(Now, as for me, I would argue differently about democracy...."the worst form of government", but that is another story...)

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #391 - Apr 29^th, 2024 at 6:56pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 29^th, 2024 at 3:18pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 7:52am:

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And I'll ask again, How can there be democracy without equality for all citizens?

Are you saying only communist countries can be democracies?

Here we can see FD's favourite debating technique, ie ask a question by inventing an absurd distortion of the original statement.

(Now, as for me, I would argue differently about democracy...."the worst form of government", but that is another story...)

I am just trying to figure out what you are actually asking. You have mangled your English translation again.

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Reply #392 - Apr 30^th, 2024 at 1:33pm

freediver wrote on Apr 29^th, 2024 at 6:56pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 29^th, 2024 at 3:18pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 7:52am:

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And I'll ask again, How can there be democracy without equality for all citizens?

Are you saying only communist countries can be democracies?

Here we can see FD's favourite debating technique, ie ask a question by inventing an absurd distortion of the original statement.

(Now, as for me, I would argue differently about democracy...."the worst form of government", but that is another story...)

I am just trying to figure out what you are actually asking. You have mangled your English translation again.

Rubbish, you are attemptig to defend your delusional "freedom" ideology by asking absurd questions like "do you think only communist countries can be democracies".

It wasn't me asking about democracy.

But as a matter of fact, 'communist' countries can be grass-roots democracies with a consensus national government.

As opposed to the apartheid Israeli state which prevents Palestinians living in East Jeruslem from becoming citizens of Israel.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49091 At my desk.	Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys Reply #393 - Apr 30^th, 2024 at 2:05pm Quote: How can there be democracy Quote: It wasn't me asking about democracy. ?
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Reply #394 - Apr 30^th, 2024 at 3:55pm

We have not seen no Jews hiding no bombs in children's toys.....

East Jerusalem - well - they should never have opposed Israel and tried to overthrow it - they lost. Now when they become decent enough citizens and obey the laws they might gain citizenship...... like so many other Arabs have...

well - originally it was intended as a neutral city/state... a Middle Eastern Vatican City kind of thing, in which Judaism, Christianity and Islam could share equally and use freely (a bit like Open Range here with the Abos, you understand) - but became embroiled in the War of Attempted Arab Supremacy (like the Wars of Abo Supremacy, you understand) in 1948 and was thus left in limbo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Jerusalem

Now if the Arabs could just agree to it being a neutral city again, the former capital of Judea/Israel but available for free use to all in peace etc... there would be no problem.

As things stand.. well... you know .... you can lead a camel jockey to water...

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #395 - May 1^st, 2024 at 1:53am

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 26^th, 2024 at 11:40am:

wombatwoody wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2024 at 8:54pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 17^th, 2024 at 8:18am:

Why do you think it is a lie?

Already explained. Why do you continuously act as if you've understood zilch?

I'm trying to understand that too - FD is either fraudulent (as he once actually admitted .."FTW"), or low IQ, or both.

Got a link to that post?

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #396 - May 1^st, 2024 at 1:55am

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 29^th, 2024 at 3:18pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 7:52am:

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And I'll ask again, How can there be democracy without equality for all citizens?

Are you saying only communist countries can be democracies?

Here we can see FD's favourite debating technique, ie ask a question by inventing an absurd distortion of the original statement.

(Now, as for me, I would argue differently about democracy...."the worst form of government", but that is another story...)

He's a total waste of time.

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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

Benjamin Netanyahu, quoted in Ma’ariv, 16 April 2008

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #397 - May 1^st, 2024 at 4:07pm

wombatwoody wrote on May 1^st, 2024 at 1:53am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 26^th, 2024 at 11:40am:

wombatwoody wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2024 at 8:54pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 17^th, 2024 at 8:18am:

Why do you think it is a lie?

Already explained. Why do you continuously act as if you've understood zilch?

I'm trying to understand that too - FD is either fraudulent (as he once actually admitted .."FTW"), or low IQ, or both.

Got a link to that post?

Yes.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1649572754/15

#24. "FTW" .....in FD's diversion from MTT to 'privatization', because he says MMT has nothing to do with privatization - his ideological mind-set is hopelessly delusional.

(btw, thanks for the question, I have discovered FD's first foray into the MMT thread which I did not answer at the time, so I'll correct him now).

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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12978 Gender:	Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys Reply #398 - May 1^st, 2024 at 4:08pm freediver wrote on Apr 30^th, 2024 at 2:05pm: Quote: How can there be democracy Quote: It wasn't me asking about democracy. ? You failed to identify the sources of the quotes.
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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #399 - May 1^st, 2024 at 4:30pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 30^th, 2024 at 3:55pm:

We have not seen no Jews hiding no bombs in children's toys.....

Maybe, but we have seen vicious IDF goons murdering women and children, every night on TV for the last six months.

Why? Because they think they have a god given right to Palestine.

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East Jerusalem - well - they should never have opposed Israel and tried to overthrow it - they lost.

wiki

Jerusalem was envisaged as a separate, international city under the 1947 United Nations partition plan. It was, however, divided by the 1948 war that followed Israel's declaration of independence. As a result of the 1949 Armistice Agreements, the city's western half came under Israeli control, while its eastern half, containing the famed Old City, fell under Jordanian control

See the problem? Israel's unilateral declaration of independence should never have been accepted by the UNSC (or the UN).

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Now when they become decent enough citizens and obey the laws they might gain citizenship...... like so many other Arabs have...

ie, when they give up E Jerusalem as their future Capital, despite the Dome of the Rock being the most dominant building on Jerusalem's skyline.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Jerusalem

Now if the Arabs could just agree to it being a neutral city again, the former capital of Judea/Israel but available for free use to all in peace etc... there would be no problem.

(Gosh.... the same link for my above wiki quote.)

Very cosmopolitan of you.

One problem: Netanyahu and RW Jews won't agree either.

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #401 - May 1^st, 2024 at 8:38pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 1^st, 2024 at 4:08pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 30^th, 2024 at 2:05pm:

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How can there be democracy

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It wasn't me asking about democracy.

?

You failed to identify the sources of the quotes.

They were both by you. In this thread. Recently. Do you not recognise your own posts?

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #402 - May 2^nd, 2024 at 11:49am

freediver wrote on May 1^st, 2024 at 8:38pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 1^st, 2024 at 4:08pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 30^th, 2024 at 2:05pm:

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How can there be democracy

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It wasn't me asking about democracy

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You failed to identify the sources of the quotes.

They were both by you. In this thread. Recently. Do you not recognise your own posts?

No they weren't. I joined the debate between you and W.

I rarely argue about what constitutes democracy in this context ie whether Israel is 'democratic' or not, I'm more interested in Churchill's famous dictum (inadequate though it is...democracy might be bested by benevolent authority).

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Re: Jews hiding bombs in childrens' toys
Reply #403 - May 16^th, 2024 at 10:02am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 16^th, 2024 at 9:56am:

Frank wrote on May 16^th, 2024 at 8:47am:

Labor senator Fatima Payman has broken ranks with the Albanese government on Israel, accusing the Jewish state of carrying out a “genocide” in the Gaza Strip ...

She's right - Israel is carrying out a genocide.

Moreover, they're specifically targeting women (preferably pregnant) and children.

And Frank condones this sort of terrorist activity Roll Eyes

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Reply #404 - May 16^th, 2024 at 10:53am

We don't got no Jews hiding in bombs or bombing pregnant women and least of all pregnant children... we understand the proclivities of Muslims... but this is a little bit too far ...

In the Liberated Zone where many Muslims have fled, they are fed and are playing handball in the streets in clean clothes unmolested by anyone.... the peaceful ones are doing fine....

Now then - about those vile murderers and rapists and baby burners.... surrender, face trial or die??

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