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Reply #270 - Feb 9th, 2024 at 1:45pm  
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Reply #272 - Feb 9th, 2024 at 1:50pm  
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 1:16pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 1:05pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 1:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 12:42pm:
Australian who die from immigrant killers are
just collateral damage for the banks and the Govts.


Yes good point

So have your false car key in your pocket at all times in anticipation of being confronted by carjackers. Throw it to them, and clear out quick smart





Yes - I've got an old car but if I buy a new car I'll do that.

The carjackers normally go after luxury cars like Mercedes.



What sort of car did Vylene White have?





Nothing special - certainly not a luxury car.
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Reply #273 - Feb 9th, 2024 at 1:52pm  
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in late 2022, the near perfected Stealth Glitch downed its first FTLW .... bringing it to earth in an absolute ruin of flames.... the FTLW was promptly withdrawn from the battlesphere and has attempted to ever since remain as a low intensity terrorist force in waiting .... intelligence services are keeping a close watch on this ..... currently there is a location, name and photograph on file................. meanwhile mothra has disappeared ... probably shot down by ordinary defences .....
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Reply #274 - Feb 9th, 2024 at 1:53pm  



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Reply #275 - Feb 9th, 2024 at 1:56pm  
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 1:30pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 12:53pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 12:28pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 11:49am:
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 11:42am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 11:20am:
With the Sudanese .. the difference being that their input to the situation & their propensity for lawlessness & violence could have been avoided if those making the decisions on the suitability of  migrants had done enough research or had a clue as to their unsuitability.


That's exactly right ... it's only common sense

But the Libs and Labs have a very weird sense of "common sense" for a civilized nation ... it's kill or be killed, survival of the fittest

Don't vote for them





The politicians did what the banks told them to do -

mass immigration -

keep the housing Ponzi scheme going.



I'm wondering if it's only the banks, or influential international socialist organizations, in collusion with banks and wealthy tech firms


All of the above, except it's not "socialist" organizations,  but greedy private financiers in charge of global finance, for the benefit of the wealthy. 

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The banks sort out the monetary issues, while the wealthy socialists and socialist organizations sort out global politics ... and the politicians just follow their masters instructions if they know what's good for them


Replace "wealthy socialists" with "monetary ideologues"  at the IMF and World Bank serving the world's  powerful elites.   



I think you'll find that the banks rely on socialist politicians and influential socialist groups to sort out the politics, but the politics must be such that the banks can still make billions from home loans and investments. Banks don't generally involve themselves in politics, they leave that up to governments "friendly" to the banks. They work together





I don't agree -
the banks tell the politicians what to do - they don't ask them.
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Reply #276 - Feb 9th, 2024 at 2:02pm  
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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #277 - Feb 9th, 2024 at 2:04pm  
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 2:02pm:
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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #278 - Feb 9th, 2024 at 2:05pm  
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 1:56pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 1:30pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 12:53pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 12:28pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 11:49am:
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 11:42am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 11:20am:
With the Sudanese .. the difference being that their input to the situation & their propensity for lawlessness & violence could have been avoided if those making the decisions on the suitability of  migrants had done enough research or had a clue as to their unsuitability.


That's exactly right ... it's only common sense

But the Libs and Labs have a very weird sense of "common sense" for a civilized nation ... it's kill or be killed, survival of the fittest

Don't vote for them





The politicians did what the banks told them to do -

mass immigration -

keep the housing Ponzi scheme going.



I'm wondering if it's only the banks, or influential international socialist organizations, in collusion with banks and wealthy tech firms


All of the above, except it's not "socialist" organizations,  but greedy private financiers in charge of global finance, for the benefit of the wealthy. 

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The banks sort out the monetary issues, while the wealthy socialists and socialist organizations sort out global politics ... and the politicians just follow their masters instructions if they know what's good for them


Replace "wealthy socialists" with "monetary ideologues"  at the IMF and World Bank serving the world's  powerful elites.   



I think you'll find that the banks rely on socialist politicians and influential socialist groups to sort out the politics, but the politics must be such that the banks can still make billions from home loans and investments. Banks don't generally involve themselves in politics, they leave that up to governments "friendly" to the banks. They work together





I don't agree -
the banks tell the politicians what to do - they don't ask them.



.... and the politicians receive their cut from the processes set in place to benefit the banks and their shareholders, and also in many cases move straight into a 'job' with a bank after leaving politics with their money swag .... a bit like a 'trade minister'/similar moving into a mill a year 'job' paid into a tax haven 'working' for a Chinese firm that he promoted ...... it's a tough life being a grifter.... but the pay can be good if you go for the right spot.....
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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #279 - Feb 9th, 2024 at 2:05pm  
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 2:04pm:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 2:02pm:
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What the hell are you doing?


Glitching - it moves the strand along .....
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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #280 - Feb 9th, 2024 at 2:12pm  
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 1:26pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 12:43pm:
Aquarius wrote on Feb 8th, 2024 at 2:35pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 8th, 2024 at 1:09pm:
Aquarius wrote on Feb 8th, 2024 at 12:12pm:
Wanted to delete this post.  But there doesn't appear to be a delete option?


Why? The issues need to be debated.

BTW I agree with Goldsworthy; but I disagree with your refusal to consider  welfare dependency/homelessness/family dysfunction as a factor in crime. (Apparently homlessness in Qld is the  worst in Oz, and that's saying something......).


I didn't want to delete the orginal post - just the duplicate. 

And I have considered all those points you make.  I understand it's extremely difficult for people from other cultures to assimilate.  But we're not a melting pot - no matter how much the social engineers try to make that so.

At the end of the day it's down to personal responsibility.  Things might not be going your way - you might not have everything you want in life - but you don't have to violently murder a 70 year old grandmother to steal her car in front of a six year old child.   


I wonder if "personal responsiblity" is what Trmp had in mind when he said (during the 2016 campaign, re inner- city blacks in the US):

"You are living in poverty, your neighbourhoods are like war zones, your young men are in prison...." 

Trump didn't say if "personal responsibility" by blacks would fix their situation.

Nevertheless, poverty and crime are associated; and the state can intervene to reduce poverty.


Indeed not!  He pointed the finger squarely at their personal responsibility in things being as they are ... and taking personal responsibility for making things better.  It's all implicit in the statement


Wrong; Trump merely stated the reality of life in poverty ghettos, without considering causation, personal responsibility and/or otherwise.

Your "personal responsibility" mantra has blinded you to what Trunp actually said,  ie merely a description of  life in poverty ghettos.

Trump was trying to win votes from Dem voters who normally look to the government to reduce poverty: "We are the party of the disadvantaged" said Hillary. 

Trump was trying to win votes by pointing out the Dems' failure to eradicate poverty...without Trump stating the causes of poverty, and what HE intended to do about it.   

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- like so many other things you go on and on about as if only you accept or know them - they are so obvious nobody bothers to go into fine detail about them.


I can certainly see why you don't want to explore your delusional concept of 'non-self-interested' individuals....

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i.e.  "refusal to consider  welfare dependency/homelessness/family dysfunction as a factor in crime."  An utterly nonsensical statement from you...EVERYONE accepts that those things are possible factors in crime - they just can't be bothered chanting about it every time they discuss crime.


1. So everyone accepts it, but just don't want to consider how to fix it?
2. why don't you want to fix it, rather than just expressing outrage with crime? 

Note: understanding causes is much harder than merely asserting  "personal responsibility", but nevertheless the causes have to fully understood before the problem can be fixed. 

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Let's hear the comeback this time.... the discussion is CRIME - not its causes.... that' your problem for another strand.


So....you jump up and down about personal responsibility, and then what?.....

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Now how do YOU propose to stop Africans stabbing grannies etc? I don't bother with you much... but jeez, you're dumb!!


1. increase penalties for attacks on persons.
2. increase policies to reduce family dysfunction.   
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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #281 - Feb 9th, 2024 at 2:24pm  
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 1:56pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 1:30pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 12:53pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 12:28pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 11:49am:
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 11:42am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 11:20am:
With the Sudanese .. the difference being that their input to the situation & their propensity for lawlessness & violence could have been avoided if those making the decisions on the suitability of  migrants had done enough research or had a clue as to their unsuitability.


That's exactly right ... it's only common sense

But the Libs and Labs have a very weird sense of "common sense" for a civilized nation ... it's kill or be killed, survival of the fittest

Don't vote for them





The politicians did what the banks told them to do -

mass immigration -

keep the housing Ponzi scheme going.



I'm wondering if it's only the banks, or influential international socialist organizations, in collusion with banks and wealthy tech firms


All of the above, except it's not "socialist" organizations,  but greedy private financiers in charge of global finance, for the benefit of the wealthy. 

Quote:
The banks sort out the monetary issues, while the wealthy socialists and socialist organizations sort out global politics ... and the politicians just follow their masters instructions if they know what's good for them


Replace "wealthy socialists" with "monetary ideologues"  at the IMF and World Bank serving the world's  powerful elites.   



I think you'll find that the banks rely on socialist politicians and influential socialist groups to sort out the politics, but the politics must be such that the banks can still make billions from home loans and investments. Banks don't generally involve themselves in politics, they leave that up to governments "friendly" to the banks. They work together





I don't agree -
the banks tell the politicians what to do - they don't ask them.


Not quite right: the pollies accept the convention that money creation belongs to solely to private financiers (even QE requires creation of government debt...).


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Reply #282 - Feb 9th, 2024 at 2:24pm  
1. So everyone accepts it, but just don't want to consider how to fix it?
2. why don't you want to fix it, rather than just expressing outrage with crime?

Note: understanding causes is much harder than merely asserting  "personal responsibility", but nevertheless the causes have to fully understood before the problem can be fixed.


He has a good point there.
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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #283 - Feb 9th, 2024 at 2:26pm  
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 2:05pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 1:56pm:
I don't agree -
the banks tell the politicians what to do - they don't ask them.



.... and the politicians receive their cut from the processes set in place to benefit the banks and their shareholders, and also in many cases move straight into a 'job' with a bank after leaving politics with their money swag .... a bit like a 'trade minister'/similar moving into a mill a year 'job' paid into a tax haven 'working' for a Chinese firm that he promoted ...... it's a tough life being a grifter.... but the pay can be good if you go for the right spot.....



It's all about corruption in the highest places.
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Reply #284 - Feb 9th, 2024 at 2:31pm  
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 2:24pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2024 at 1:56pm:
I don't agree -
the banks tell the politicians what to do - they don't ask them.


Not quite right: the pollies accept the convention that money creation belongs to solely to private financiers (even QE requires creation of government debt...).



Money creation is from the Govt. -
they create Govt. Bonds and the RBA buys them with
printed money which causes our high inflation and can cause hyperinflation.

Mass immigration props up the Banks.
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