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Reply #420 - Feb 12^th, 2024 at 2:46pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 12^th, 2024 at 11:51am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 12^th, 2024 at 11:25am:

The fact remains extremes of wealth increase crime, absent revolution.

Crime is a personal choice, and anyone over the age of 14 is not excused for not knowing right from wrong

If that darkie had asked his mother if it was alright for him to go out and steal a car because he was poor, what do you think his mother"s answer would be?

Anyone over the age of 10 is not excused from extreme forms of violence. A 10-year-old stabbing a 70-year-old is likely to face many years in prison. And the community would expect the 10-year-old to hang himself with a rope, given to prison staff for the inmate's benefit. I have heard it before that murderous children are expected to end their lives so that they don't come out of prison as adults with a grudge on their hands.

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Reply #421 - Feb 12^th, 2024 at 2:54pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 12^th, 2024 at 2:37pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 12^th, 2024 at 12:04am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 9:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 9:36pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 9:31pm:

We had the option of not dissolving the White Australia Policy and having to do our trade with only a few nations in the world. Even those few trading nations might get 'pressured' into not trading with us anymore, if worldwide opinion was that Australia was being racially discriminatory.

Vyleen White paid the ultimate price for our policies.

I would say that Vyleen White would be less safe if our international trade was downgraded because of our discriminatory migration policies. Poorer Australians, including Vyleen White, would be turning to more desperate standards of making money in the abscence of not being able to trade with many international markets.

Strange rhetorical play on events and safety there ... You needed to take an extra minute to think before you typed

We have non-discriminatory immigration, and international trade ... yet Vyleen White was still accosted and murdered

She was murdered by someone who is alleged to be a refugee from somewhere in Africa. Had he and his family not been here, Vyleen would still be alive. True enough. But, if a blanket ban of black Africans was enforced, even if it resulted in a 10% drop in crime, would that really be that great to have instead of an international trade that had not sanctions placed upon us?

south korea, japan and china would have taken a grand total of zero sudanese in the last 20 years.
everyone seems happy to trade with them

i'm not against multiculturalism
i am a huge admirer of singapore.

a melting pot of malays, english, indians, chinese, thai, phillipinos, yanks, europeans, kiwis

but note

hardly anyone from gaza, sudan, mexico, haiti , libya, algeria .afgjanistan

there are great migrants and there are terrible migrants

a lot of our best and brightest and most productive in medicine and engineering and farming came from india , china, vietnam, south africa, the philipines.

you can come from a poor country and still aspire to make something of yourself other then a machete slasher

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106261 Melbourne Gender:	Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD Reply #422 - Feb 12^th, 2024 at 2:55pm Quote: south korea, japan and china would have taken a grand total of zero sudanese in the last 20 years. everyone seems happy to trade with them Good point.
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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #423 - Feb 12^th, 2024 at 2:59pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12^th, 2024 at 2:39pm:

Interesting short 6 minute video clip on it:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/158/770/600/playable/6ac46f...

That was a 6 minutes long Christian extremist propaganda video. I have no problem with keeping African immigration to Australia to a minimum. And I also have no problem with kicking out violent foreign offenders. But to think turning a country into a Christian country is going to solve our problems is something ludicrous. I suppose the only church you attend, Bobby, is the World Church of the Creator. However, churches that I have attended (which I last attended 16 years ago) have been pro-refugee and other woke causes. I doubt that the church has changed its position in the last 20 years.

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 34963 Gender:	Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD Reply #424 - Feb 12^th, 2024 at 3:07pm maybe all migrants are put on probation and a serious crime = deportation. dont we have rules like that for bikies? and the families probably need to go as well if its a migrant under 18. mum and dad are responsible for supervising and removing all sharp weapons from their children
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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #425 - Feb 12^th, 2024 at 3:09pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 12^th, 2024 at 12:02pm:

And yet studies show the correlation between poverty and crime.

He wouldn't ask her, he likely hates himself and his mother

Goof. The want of wealth is what is likely to cause some people to involve themselves in crime. I live in an area where two drug dealers lived. One moved away. The other strung himself. The amount of troublemakers in the area has diminished substantially, as they no longer come around looking for their fix. But, I can tell you, according to the guy that dealt before he died, that he was making good money from his 'business'.

That African teenager that murdered an elderly Vyleen White, would have had a mother that turned a blind eye to her son's criminality. If it is revealed that she tried with the best intentions to raise an incorrigible boy, I would be absolutely amazed.

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Reply #426 - Feb 12^th, 2024 at 3:10pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 12^th, 2024 at 2:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12^th, 2024 at 2:39pm:

Interesting short 6 minute video clip on it:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/158/770/600/playable/6ac46f...

That was a 6 minutes long Christian extremist propaganda video. I have no problem with keeping African immigration to Australia to a minimum. And I also have no problem with kicking out violent foreign offenders. But to think turning a country into a Christian country is going to solve our problems is something ludicrous. I suppose the only church you attend, Bobby, is the World Church of the Creator. However, churches that I have attended (which I last attended 16 years ago) have been pro-refugee and other woke causes. I doubt that the church has changed its position in the last 20 years.

That video is merely posted as a viewpoint of many people.

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Reply #427 - Feb 12^th, 2024 at 3:13pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Feb 12^th, 2024 at 2:01pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 12^th, 2024 at 11:25am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 3:07pm:

you mean like rwanda where everyone was poor and 1 million got machete-ed.
or the killing fields of cambodia where everyone was poor.

Those were cases of reaction against colonial repression leading to civli war.

The fact remains extremes of wealth increase crime, absent revolution.

Surely you jest.... those were decades after the colonialists left..... and were internecine feuds primarily ... the old warlords concept re-visited ... one felt his dog was bigger than the other group's ..... who were only cackroaches anyway...

Around 30 years ago, Rwanda was in a civil war based on ethnic lines. Today, the country is doing reasonably well in prosperity. They still have their problems. But it is nowhere near the troubles of 30 years ago. Have a look at those videos on Rwanda today.

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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #428 - Feb 12^th, 2024 at 3:30pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 12^th, 2024 at 2:54pm:

south korea, japan and china would have taken a grand total of zero sudanese in the last 20 years.
everyone seems happy to trade with them

i'm not against multiculturalism
i am a huge admirer of singapore.

a melting pot of malays, english, indians, chinese, thai, phillipinos, yanks, europeans, kiwis

but note

hardly anyone from gaza, sudan, mexico, haiti , libya, algeria .afgjanistan

there are great migrants and there are terrible migrants

a lot of our best and brightest and most productive in medicine and engineering and farming came from india , china, vietnam, south africa, the philipines.

you can come from a poor country and still aspire to make something of yourself other then a machete slasher

A guy from Australia came to New Zealand and shot dead 30 mainly New Zealand citizens. I am pretty sure that New Zealand did not stop trading with Australia. However, the Turkish lead Erdogan made threats against Australians because of the death of 30 New Zealand Muslims.

It all comes down to what you have to lose. If Australia put a block on sub-Saharan Africans migrating to Australia today, at the very least, we would not be seeing African athletes show up for the 2026 Commonwealth Games or the 2032 Olympic Games. Then there would be some kind of trade sanctions from countries in Africa or those that have economic interests in Africa against Australia.

If you think paying $2/L is expensive now, just imagine how bad it would be having to survive on scarce fuel reserves because of the sanctions.

Btw, South Korea, China and Japan do have African migrants. Perhaps a watch of the "Oriental Pearl" channel on youtube would help change your mind.

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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #429 - Feb 12^th, 2024 at 3:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12^th, 2024 at 3:10pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 12^th, 2024 at 2:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12^th, 2024 at 2:39pm:

Interesting short 6 minute video clip on it:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/158/770/600/playable/6ac46f...

That was a 6 minutes long Christian extremist propaganda video. I have no problem with keeping African immigration to Australia to a minimum. And I also have no problem with kicking out violent foreign offenders. But to think turning a country into a Christian country is going to solve our problems is something ludicrous. I suppose the only church you attend, Bobby, is the World Church of the Creator. However, churches that I have attended (which I last attended 16 years ago) have been pro-refugee and other woke causes. I doubt that the church has changed its position in the last 20 years.

That video is merely posted as a viewpoint of many people.

Maybe the KKK and other affiliated Christian fundamentalist hate groups, perhaps. Not for the wider world.

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Reply #430 - Feb 12^th, 2024 at 6:45pm

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As of 31 December 2021, 3,575 people have been recognised as refugees or granted humanitarian status by the South Korean government. The majority of people holding humanitarian status are from Syria and Yemen. Some 2,143 new applications were submitted during the year 2021. This number has declined, with the Covid-19 pandemic and limitations imposed on travel and visa policies.

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About 1,160 persons of concern are registered with UNHCR in China, including around 340 refugees predominantly from Somalia, Syria, Afghanistan and Yemen. There are 303,106 Indo-Chinese refugees de facto integrated pending Government regularization.

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There are approximately 400 Sudanese nationals in Japan. If they wish to continue their stay, the immigration agency will allow them to switch their status of residence to "designated activities," granted by the justice minister and permitting activities based on their individual circumstances.

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Far from the claimed zero refugees made by Acqua. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #431 - Feb 12^th, 2024 at 6:59pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 12^th, 2024 at 6:45pm:

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As of 31 December 2021, 3,575 people have been recognised as refugees or granted humanitarian status by the South Korean government. The majority of people holding humanitarian status are from Syria and Yemen. Some 2,143 new applications were submitted during the year 2021. This number has declined, with the Covid-19 pandemic and limitations imposed on travel and visa policies.

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About 1,160 persons of concern are registered with UNHCR in China, including around 340 refugees predominantly from Somalia, Syria, Afghanistan and Yemen. There are 303,106 Indo-Chinese refugees de facto integrated pending Government regularization.

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There are approximately 400 Sudanese nationals in Japan. If they wish to continue their stay, the immigration agency will allow them to switch their status of residence to "designated activities," granted by the justice minister and permitting activities based on their individual circumstances.

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Far from the claimed zero refugees made by Acqua. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

so 340 from somalia syria and afghanistan and 303,106 from soutj east asia

i rest my case.

as to japan taking 400. for a country where tokyo has a population greater then the whole of australia , a little country town in oz called towoomba has taken 2000 or 5 x their entire nation.

we need to rebalance in favour of people from china , malaysia, thailand

do you want to tell us about chinese kids using machetes to steal cars?

of course not

they are all in the library stuying to be doctors Roll Eyes

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Reply #432 - Feb 12^th, 2024 at 7:29pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 12^th, 2024 at 6:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 12^th, 2024 at 6:45pm:

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As of 31 December 2021, 3,575 people have been recognised as refugees or granted humanitarian status by the South Korean government. The majority of people holding humanitarian status are from Syria and Yemen. Some 2,143 new applications were submitted during the year 2021. This number has declined, with the Covid-19 pandemic and limitations imposed on travel and visa policies.

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About 1,160 persons of concern are registered with UNHCR in China, including around 340 refugees predominantly from Somalia, Syria, Afghanistan and Yemen. There are 303,106 Indo-Chinese refugees de facto integrated pending Government regularization.

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There are approximately 400 Sudanese nationals in Japan. If they wish to continue their stay, the immigration agency will allow them to switch their status of residence to "designated activities," granted by the justice minister and permitting activities based on their individual circumstances.

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Far from the claimed zero refugees made by Acqua. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

so 340 from somalia syria and afghanistan and 303,106 from soutj east asia

i rest my case.

as to japan taking 400. for a country where tokyo has a population greater then the whole of australia , a little country town in oz called towoomba has taken 2000 or 5 x their entire nation.

we need to rebalance in favour of people from china , malaysia, thailand

do you want to tell us about chinese kids using machetes to steal cars?

of course not

they are all in the library stuying to be doctors Roll Eyes

Good on them. It means of course that you are mistaken in your approach. There is no zero refugees accepted by South Korea, China and Japan as you attempt to claim, Acqua. Are you man enough to admit your error or will you continue your bluster?

Pity the Sudanese are still tribal in their approach to things. Doesn't mean they cannot learn, just that it is a slower process. They have been traumatised by what the Sudanese militia and Government have wrought. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #433 - Feb 12^th, 2024 at 7:41pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 12^th, 2024 at 3:13pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Feb 12^th, 2024 at 2:01pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 12^th, 2024 at 11:25am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 3:07pm:

you mean like rwanda where everyone was poor and 1 million got machete-ed.
or the killing fields of cambodia where everyone was poor.

Those were cases of reaction against colonial repression leading to civli war.

The fact remains extremes of wealth increase crime, absent revolution.

Surely you jest.... those were decades after the colonialists left..... and were internecine feuds primarily ... the old warlords concept re-visited ... one felt his dog was bigger than the other group's ..... who were only cackroaches anyway...

Around 30 years ago, Rwanda was in a civil war based on ethnic lines. Today, the country is doing reasonably well in prosperity. They still have their problems. But it is nowhere near the troubles of 30 years ago. Have a look at those videos on Rwanda today.

I speak of the past - you know what is this 'were'/'felt'? The cackroach haters have been finished...stupid bastards. Now Britain is mooting sending a host of its illegal Channel crossers to Rwanda - the African Solution... I think most of the Channel swimmers don't want that.... they definitely want the much hated First World .... with all its evil ways.... decadence ... refusal to accept Allah etc ....

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 25018 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD Reply #434 - Feb 12^th, 2024 at 7:45pm My point, Grappler, was that Rwanda went from a war-torn basketcase society to a decent standard of society in the space of 30 years. If the Rwandans could do that, then the place where that dickhead killer's family came from would have been able to do that, too.
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